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Old 01-28-05, 06:29 PM
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Reviews of Porco Rosso and Nausicaa on IGN

Apparently the video transfers aren't very good. It's too bad Disney couldn't give these movies a worthy (quality-wise) release.

Nausicaa: http://dvd.ign.com/articles/582/582646p1.html?fromint=1
Porco Rosso: http://dvd.ign.com/articles/582/582716p1.html
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I'm withholding judgment until I see them myself. Buena Vista did such an awesome job with Spirited Away, it would be surprising to see bad Miyazaki discs....

It's an early review (Feb. 22 is the street date), so there's a chance they got a check disc, and the final product could be better. The cool thing about the three Miyazaki/Ghibli DVDs (The Cat Returns, being the other one) coming out is the voice cast (Patrick Stewart, Uma Thurman, David Ogden Stiers, Michael Keaton, Tim Curry, etc.).

Later in 2005, Buena Vista plans on releasing three more Miyazaki/Ghibli titles together: Pom Poko, Only Yesterday, and My Neighbor Totoro (though one or another could be substituted by Howl's Moving Castle and/or Whisper of the Heart). BVHV is looking to use high-end voice talent for those as well....

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It's too bad that the R1 disc couldn't have included the French dub track (with Jean Reno providing the voice for Porco). Apparently, this is the version that Miyazaki prefers.
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I do hope you're right, Chris. I'm probably going to buy them anyway, I am interested in listening to the dubs, although I disliked Laputa's dub, I found the ones for Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke to be well done.

cultshcock, according to Disney's website (http://disneyvideos.disney.go.com/mo...s/2534803.html), Porco Rosso does include a french track. Do you mean that it's a different one? If it is the one with Jean Reno, then I'm very eager to listen to it, I didn't know he had done it.
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Anyone have these DVDs yet? What did you think of them?
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IGN's review of Nausicaa:

On a traditional analog television, the movie looks fine. Black levels are handled properly, and this transfer reproduces the colors very well. Miyazaki's palette retains its gentle, earthy look.

But as a digital production -- viewers lacking digital TV can see the difference if they have PCs with DVD players -- this widescreen version looks like a token wipe pushed through just to get the product out. Edge enhancement halos crop up all over the place. Graininess and softness abound. On a few occasions, characters in the distance blur so much that while moving they're almost smears that happen to have some black lines in them.

The video is free of combing errors and aliasing problems, but that's to be expected with so much digital "enhancement." The end result is like a windshield targeted by a street squeegee guy -- the original dirt goes away, but the end result isn't much better.

Score: 4 out of 10
Vs. Dan Ramer's (obsessive videophile perfectionist) review at DVDFile:

The film's theatrical aspect ratio of 1.85:1 is presented in anamorphic video. This is a lovely transfer, not perfect, but lovely. The palette is somewhat muted, very likely a reflection of the theme of pollution. The valley is a bit brighter. All the colors seem reproduced with what I assume to be great accuracy. The subtle difference between Nausicaa's skin tone and her tights is sufficiently apparent to dispel the sometimes-heard suggestion that she is going commando. Slight halos pop up from time to time, but they are of low amplitude and don't interfere with viewing pleasure. Shadow detail is very good. And the textures of the background plates are reproduced admirably. I didn't notice any mosquito noise or macroblocking.
I know what equipment Ramer is using to watch, and I am humbled by it. IGN doesn't make their reviewers' equipment public.
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Maybe it's just me but, when I'm looking for DVD reviews, IGN isn't a place I'll even think about checking out.

I think Josh has made a real nice point as to why.
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cultshcock, according to Disney's website (http://disneyvideos.disney.go.com/m...ts/2534803.html), Porco Rosso does include a french track. Do you mean that it's a different one? If it is the one with Jean Reno, then I'm very eager to listen to it, I didn't know he had done it.
My mistake, it looks like the French track is indeed present. I'm assuming that it would be the same dub (with Jean Reno) that was recorded a number of years ago.
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I think you guys are right about IGN's reviews, apparently most of the reviews of animes give bad scores for video. The other reviews I've read have made god comments about the video.

Anyway, I'm buying these movies tomorrow!
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can someone make some good arguments that might warrant a purchase from me?
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Originally Posted by Master Shake 05
can someone make some good arguments that might warrant a purchase from me?
It's Miyazaki
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oh...MY GOD! No one told me! Jesus i gotta get them....RIGHT NOW!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Master Shake 05
oh...MY GOD! No one told me! Jesus i gotta get them....RIGHT NOW!!!!!
Hey, you wanted a good reason.

But since you're a huge ATF fan, maybe it's not for you.
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Originally Posted by Master Shake 05
oh...MY GOD! No one told me! Jesus i gotta get them....RIGHT NOW!!!!!
Yeah, pretty much. I recommend you at least rent them and see what all the fuss is about.
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eh. im just sick of people adverstising movies becuase the director/creator is famous. i want the facts, damn it!!!! teh fighting wordz!!!!

oh, and telling that becuase im an ATHF fan that i wont like them is just wrong. i enjoy alot of anime, granted i love ATHF more.
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Nausicaa is an excellent "girl coming-of-age/science fiction/war" movie.

Porco Rosso is an excellent "examination of self/post World War I/pilot/fight" movie.

The Cat Returns is a semi-sequel to a "first love" story, but really is a fantasy about cats/castles/girls/parallel worlds.

You can tell which two I would highly recommend. The third one is worth a watch if you loved "Spirited Away" - a better "parallel worlds/demigods" story than The Cat Returns.
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Originally Posted by Master Shake 05
eh. im just sick of people adverstising movies becuase the director/creator is famous. i want the facts, damn it!!!! teh fighting wordz!!!!
Have you seen a Myazaki anime? Spirited Away or Princess Mononoke maybe? His "crappiest" movie is better than most animation. It's difficult to go wrong with any of his features, IMO.

His storytelling is compelling, filled with memorable characters and the animation is rich and detailed. The quality is always there.

If you're not familiar with his work, I suggest you borrow/rent Spirited Away. Let us know your thoughts, cool?
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okay...i might be tempted because ive heard such good things, just checking
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Question:

is the English dub for Nausicaa 5.1 or 2-channel stereo?
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It's 2-channel stereo.
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Watched Nausicaa last night. I agree with Ramer's DVDFile review except that he didn't mention that a lot of the movie is very grainy. It looks like real film grain, though, not video noise, and is not too distracting. Edge enhancement is minimal, certainly much less than on Disney's last batch of Miyazaki discs. Some portions of the movie are soft, but this appears more conceptual or an artifact of age than the result of a bad transfer or over-processing. A nice looking disc all in all. I'd give it 3.5 stars out of 5.

This is all on a DLP projector with 6-foot wide screen.
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Porco Rosso

Had to vent about this...

I just finished watching the Porco Rosso DVD. I don't know much about the quality of the video transfer, but the fansub versions that were previously the only way to see this classic were so poor by comparison that even a mediocre transfer seems like a huge improvement. And unlike the Disney release of "Kiki's Delivery Service", in which they actually altered several frames so that signage would be readable in English, this doesn't appear to have any major content alterations. (I wonder about the subtitles, though. This is possibly the first Disney-branded film to contain a reference in dialogue to "pornography".)

I did notice something funny about the scene in which Porco is selecting his ammunition on the evening before the big fight though. I could have sworn that I used to be able to read more of the text on the box of bullets (which reads "Shootz", or something like it) than is visible on the Disney release. I took a look at the old tape, and sure enough, there's a good 5-8% of the screen cropped off at the top. This is the case throughout the entire movie.

I guess nobody watching for the first time is going to miss this, but if you consider yourself a Ghibli purist, this is just another reason to hope that Criterion takes an interest in this film some day.
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Originally Posted by sonyguts
I did notice something funny about the scene in which Porco is selecting his ammunition on the evening before the big fight though. I could have sworn that I used to be able to read more of the text on the box of bullets (which reads "Shootz", or something like it) than is visible on the Disney release. I took a look at the old tape, and sure enough, there's a good 5-8% of the screen cropped off at the top. This is the case throughout the entire movie.
The animation may have been drawn at a ratio of around 1.66:1 for protection and to make an easier conversion to "full-frame" video (many animated films were drawn this way), but it was intended for theatrical release at 1.85:1.

I guess nobody watching for the first time is going to miss this, but if you consider yourself a Ghibli purist, this is just another reason to hope that Criterion takes an interest in this film some day.
Whether Criterion is interested or not has nothing to do with whether they can get the rights to the title.
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I picked up Nausicaa, but I haven't had a chance to watch it. I love Miyazaki, and I own and have read all the mangas for this series/film. They're really fantastic, and I'd recommend checking them out.

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