Is 'The Decalogue' worth $47.98?
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Is 'The Decalogue' worth $47.98?
I did enjoy the Three Colors trilogy, is there a likely possibility I will enjoy The Decalogue? That much money is hard for me to justify on a release that's not a boxset or a Criterion.
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The new release of Kieslowski's masterpiece for Polish Television is most definitely worth the money considering what the now OOP original release went for and is still mostly getting on Ebay. This, combined with the fact that this new release will contain many extras not present on the initial one make this purchase a no brainer for fans.
P.S. This is in essence a Boxset as the runtime is roughly 10 hours.
P.S. This is in essence a Boxset as the runtime is roughly 10 hours.
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Many consider The Decalogue to be Kieslowski's masterpiece. I have the Korean box set & can wholeheartedly recommend the films themselves. You should know that these were made for Polish television, so the production values are nowhere near as high as they are in the Three Colors trilogy. But the stories--and the way Kieslowski tells them--are brilliant.
Remember that these are 10 one-hour films--eqiuivalent to 5 full-length movies. Personally, I see the price as a great bargain (I paid 90 bucks for the Infinity [Korean] set and, despite the crummy subtitling, still feel it was a great purchase). I have pre-ordered the Facets set as well. Highly recommended.
I would also enthusiastically recommend Annette Insdorf's book, Double Lives, Second Chances: The Cinema of Krzysztof Kieslowski (1999), which gives an excellent analysis of each of the Decalogue films (as well as his other films). The hardback version can be found remaindered on Amazon.com Marketplace for under $10.
Remember that these are 10 one-hour films--eqiuivalent to 5 full-length movies. Personally, I see the price as a great bargain (I paid 90 bucks for the Infinity [Korean] set and, despite the crummy subtitling, still feel it was a great purchase). I have pre-ordered the Facets set as well. Highly recommended.
I would also enthusiastically recommend Annette Insdorf's book, Double Lives, Second Chances: The Cinema of Krzysztof Kieslowski (1999), which gives an excellent analysis of each of the Decalogue films (as well as his other films). The hardback version can be found remaindered on Amazon.com Marketplace for under $10.
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I watch a lot of foreign cinema and really enjoyed the Three Colors, but I bought the original release of The Decalogue, watched 3 episodes and then traded. After continuing to read glowing reviews, I thought maybe I did not give it a fair chance and so I bought it again. I then watched another two episodes and traded it once more. I could not adapt to the speed of the shows. They were very slow, understated and demanding to watch. I know I am probably in the minority , but I found them to be very tedious. If you like Russian cinema such as Tarkovsky, then you should be safe. If not, then rent first.
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I watch a lot of foreign cinema and really enjoyed the Three Colors, but I bought the original release of The Decalogue, watched 3 episodes and then traded. After continuing to read glowing reviews, I thought maybe I did not give it a fair chance and so I bought it again. I then watched another two episodes and traded it once more. I could not adapt to the speed of the shows. They were very slow, understated and demanding to watch. I know I am probably in the minority , but I found them to be very tedious. If you like Russian cinema such as Tarkovsky, then you should be safe. If not, then rent first.
I watch a lot of foreign cinema and really enjoyed the Three Colors, but I bought the original release of The Decalogue, watched 3 episodes and then traded. After continuing to read glowing reviews, I thought maybe I did not give it a fair chance and so I bought it again. I then watched another two episodes and traded it once more. I could not adapt to the speed of the shows. They were very slow, understated and demanding to watch. I know I am probably in the minority , but I found them to be very tedious. If you like Russian cinema such as Tarkovsky, then you should be safe. If not, then rent first.
I finally sold it on eBay when the prices went through the roof.
However, that being said, I've preordered the new set and plan to give it a 2nd (3rd?) chance. But this is the last time.
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Re: Is 'The Decalogue' worth $47.98?
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I did enjoy the Three Colors trilogy, is there a likely possibility I will enjoy The Decalogue? That much money is hard for me to justify on a release that's not a boxset or a Criterion.
I did enjoy the Three Colors trilogy, is there a likely possibility I will enjoy The Decalogue? That much money is hard for me to justify on a release that's not a boxset or a Criterion.
My favorite one was #6 (I think)...the one themed "Thou shalt not commit adultery". That one has a longer version called "A Short Film About Love" that I got on vcd from ebay. I wish it was available on dvd. (I also wish the longer version of #5 "A Short Film About Killing" was on dvd too.)
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This is one of the first great deals I got through this forum, way back in 2001 (I think). I highly recommend this box set, and you can see why Roger Ebert considers this one of the greatest movies ever made here:
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/great_...decalogue.html
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/great_...decalogue.html
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My favorite one was #6 (I think)...the one themed "Thou shalt not commit adultery". That one has a longer version called "A Short Film About Love" that I got on vcd from ebay. I wish it was available on dvd. (I also wish the longer version of #5 "A Short Film About Killing" was on dvd too.)
My favorite one was #6 (I think)...the one themed "Thou shalt not commit adultery". That one has a longer version called "A Short Film About Love" that I got on vcd from ebay. I wish it was available on dvd. (I also wish the longer version of #5 "A Short Film About Killing" was on dvd too.)
I won't be picking up the Facets 'new' release purely on the basis that it uses the same transfer as the previous edition which i used to own.....i sold that and bought the R2 Artificial Eye releases which were superior to the Facets one.....i have since sold those and am going to purchase the Korean R3 set like FilmFansea (suprised you are actually picking up the Facets one also..i guess it must contain extras not present in the korean set and you want them for 'completist' purposes?)
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I just wanted to warn people that have purchased the new Decalogue release and have not seen these films before to:
1. NOT watch Eberts' introduction segment before seeing the films (contains some spoilers)
and 2. NOT read the episode descriptions on the back of the boxes as these are more spoiler laiden than Ebert's intro (these are the same spoiler-laiden descriptions that were on the first release).
1. NOT watch Eberts' introduction segment before seeing the films (contains some spoilers)
and 2. NOT read the episode descriptions on the back of the boxes as these are more spoiler laiden than Ebert's intro (these are the same spoiler-laiden descriptions that were on the first release).
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Originally posted by Buford T Pusser
ANy other difference new vs. old? (not trying to stalk you garmonbozia )
ANy other difference new vs. old? (not trying to stalk you garmonbozia )
lol, I'll just restate what I siad in the other thread for the benefit of anyone else who wonders into this thread.
There's about an hour's worth of interviews on the last disc. The picture quality of the films themselves is supposed to be improved (but from the same transfer, I've read) but I cannot compare since I no longer have the old set. Also, the films are now on 3 single sided discs which I like since I hate double sided discs. There's a booklet too, and the first disc has a 15 minute intro by Ebert.
IMO, the new set was worth it, especially since it was easy to find for cheap prices, and I sold my older set for more on half.com
I found the long interview of Kieslowski with the press to be really interesting, although I didn't like the fact that instead of being subtitled it had translators speaking English over top the Polish dialogue (like is done on US news reports).
Unfortunately, the cases are snappers. I know the first pressing of the first release (the 2 disc version) came in snappers because that's the one I used to have, but what about the second pressing? IIRC, I thought people said that one came in amarays? maybe I remember wrong.....
I was just hoping the new set would be snapper-free.
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Originally posted by indycohiba
I watch a lot of foreign cinema and really enjoyed the Three Colors, but I bought the original release of The Decalogue, watched 3 episodes and then traded. After continuing to read glowing reviews, I thought maybe I did not give it a fair chance and so I bought it again. I then watched another two episodes and traded it once more. I could not adapt to the speed of the shows. They were very slow, understated and demanding to watch. I know I am probably in the minority , but I found them to be very tedious. If you like Russian cinema such as Tarkovsky, then you should be safe. If not, then rent first.
I watch a lot of foreign cinema and really enjoyed the Three Colors, but I bought the original release of The Decalogue, watched 3 episodes and then traded. After continuing to read glowing reviews, I thought maybe I did not give it a fair chance and so I bought it again. I then watched another two episodes and traded it once more. I could not adapt to the speed of the shows. They were very slow, understated and demanding to watch. I know I am probably in the minority , but I found them to be very tedious. If you like Russian cinema such as Tarkovsky, then you should be safe. If not, then rent first.
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I'm getting this movie as a half blind buy since I've only seen the first 5 episodes. It's definitely worth the MSRP, but I'm getting it for ~$40 just like anyone else.
I enjoyed Three Colors a lot, but unlike indochiba, I enjoyed Decalogue a lot more. I find the shorter running time of each episodes (90min+ for Three Colors, 50min+ for Decalogue) is more appropriate. I also feel like getting more stories, 10 instead of 3.
Actually, I don't quite understand why some folks wouldn't enjoy Decalogue if they like Three Colors. In both cases, we're dropped in the middle of some people's lives. There are not much exposition but a lot of unspoken stories in the character's faces, movements, and circumstances. Only until the end we understand what's going on. This makes rewatching them becomes almost mandatory and most of the times, more enjoyable. Kieslowski movies make me wish I don't have to watch them for the first time
I got all the discs from Netflix but I returned them before watching them all. I know I need more than 10 hours to go through them, so based on that alone, this is a buy for me.
I enjoyed Three Colors a lot, but unlike indochiba, I enjoyed Decalogue a lot more. I find the shorter running time of each episodes (90min+ for Three Colors, 50min+ for Decalogue) is more appropriate. I also feel like getting more stories, 10 instead of 3.
Actually, I don't quite understand why some folks wouldn't enjoy Decalogue if they like Three Colors. In both cases, we're dropped in the middle of some people's lives. There are not much exposition but a lot of unspoken stories in the character's faces, movements, and circumstances. Only until the end we understand what's going on. This makes rewatching them becomes almost mandatory and most of the times, more enjoyable. Kieslowski movies make me wish I don't have to watch them for the first time
I got all the discs from Netflix but I returned them before watching them all. I know I need more than 10 hours to go through them, so based on that alone, this is a buy for me.
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Actually, I don't quite understand why some folks wouldn't enjoy Decalogue if they like Three Colors.
Actually, I don't quite understand why some folks wouldn't enjoy Decalogue if they like Three Colors.
I consider The Decalogue to be the best "film" of the 1980s and The Three Colors Trilogy to be the best "film" of the 1990s.....but The Decalogue is also my favorite "film" of all time. It is just an amazing example of exquisite screenwriting. It never ceases to amaze me at how powerful these stories are for their short running time. Perfect proof that a film does not need to be 3 hours long to tell an engaging story.
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Originally posted by jackson walker
Your favorite film of ALL TIME? That is quiet a statement, gar. I think it is a great film, and worth owning (as I do), but of ALL TIME?
Your favorite film of ALL TIME? That is quiet a statement, gar. I think it is a great film, and worth owning (as I do), but of ALL TIME?
I don't really like picking *single* favorites of anything (I prefer to pick groups of things as to not tie my opinions down to one thing...like say picking top three favorite films of a certain director, or top five favorite films of a certain year, etc....)
...but when people ask me what my favorite film is and they won't let me cop out with a list...after some deliberation, I've chosen The Decalogue....so that's been my stock answer for the past two years (could change in the future, but I doubt anytime soon).