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jough 01-08-03 03:51 PM

Great score, yes. I've been enjoying it each time I watch the film.

But the extras are really weak. Did you think they were good, theneobez? They're very fluffy and promotional, especially the interviews where Cruise says what a genius Spielberg is and vice versa.

Maybe I'm just spoiled from really good docs, like on Taxi Driver or even the Godfather.

-- Jough

theneobez 01-08-03 04:20 PM

To be honest, I havn't gave them much of a look just yet, I took a quick look at the storyboard's with the film sound running, That was very cool. And the animated menus were incredible. Like I said, what I saw I thought was great, but I havn't got to the meat of the extras, so I guess the statement in the previous post was a bit premature, sorry. I'll leave my conclusions open for the time being though, I'm going to give a long look at all the extras this week, but I honestly believe the movie itself is more than enough reason to own the dvd. But I guess I'd be a bit biased, it was my favorite film all year. . .I'll take a look at the extras pretty soon. I hope they are atleast somewhat satisfactory. . .

Save Ferris 01-08-03 04:51 PM

Im interested theonebez, what you think of the issues i mentioned?

theneobez 01-08-03 05:03 PM

I can definitely understand where you're coming from, to be honest, but those relatively "small" flaws in the movie are really just that, small, to me atleast. I'm definitely not saying this movie is without flaws. . . and it's not for everyone, but I think the things you pointed out were lookin far too close, IMO.
SPOILERS

Spoiler:
The guy with the grudge who gives Anderton the surgery, I can see where you're coming from, he was obviously a flawed character. But I think his placement was there to show more of the type of guy Anderton had been in the past, the guys he locked up, etc.
The "Oh no, don't touch the precogs," arguement is warranted as well. . .but I just didn't look that far into it, and I REALLY don't care to. Yeah, I guess you're correct, they should have been more definitive about certain things in the movie, they seemed to contradict what appeared to be factual statements in the movie, but they were really unimportant if you ask me. I wouldn't call it ignorance, but really, I just love the whole thrill of the movie, the score, and STILL most of all the character, the dialogue, and the rock solid story. Yeah, there were alot of gadgets that sort of came up from nowhere, kind of magical, I can see where that point of view would come from, but I believe the film to be strongly imaginative, and you have to keep an open mind for things like that.


I'm not criticizing your view, just defending mine. No movie is for everyone I guess.

Save Ferris 01-08-03 09:28 PM

Fair enough. I will say Tom Cruise did act very well in this one. As well as the FBI guy who has a thick accent that he covered very well.

theneobez 01-09-03 04:50 PM

Just got done watching the documentary material on Disc 2. . .I've gotta say, it was really insightful. When I usually think of corporate and fluff I think of those crap HBO 20 minute inside looks or the E! Documentaries, or even worse, the promotional campaign material. There nothing on this disc that came near that stuff. I found all of it very insightful, every now and then there would be some ass kissing, compliments, this is how we met, this is how Steven really excels, etc., but for the most part, I really loved the stuff.
The first part is broken into two 9 minute featurettes about the adaptation of the Phillip K. Dick story, and the Characters.
The first 2 minutes are basically about how Tom and Steven met, but after that annoyance, the material really picks up the pace.
In the Deconstruction part of the DVD (my personal favorite section) there's alot of insightful material on several of the high production scenes, including the Spyder Sequence (beautiful concept images). The compliments were brought down to a minimal, which is good. My favorite person interviewed was Kaminsky, the Director of Photography on all of Spielberg's latest films, for a while now. He was informative and explained what his thought process and attempts were on several of the scenes. I only wish he was interviewed more for the dvd.
The Stunts section, unfortunately, took a slight downturn. There's really good stuff here, but I found most of this was spent just saying how difficult it was, or how great Tom Cruise was at stunts, how skilled and seasoned he had become etc. The scenes shown, however, were great, and they contained alot of insight in themselves. Fairly good, but it could have been longer, more in depth. My least favorite section, without question.
Then comes the ILM section. The material here is quite good, they take you through the steps of how they began to construct each of the scenes, along with some interesting facts. I still thoroughly believe the special effects in Minority Report are some of the best and believeable yet in any movie to use CGI heavily, so all of this was very interesting, and ass kissing was kept to a relative minimal.
Then comes the Final Report, with Tom Cruise and Steven Spielberg.
They compliment each other, but I didn't find it too annoying or too far over done, because A.) The scenes shown that corresponded with what they each talked about are very nice, and B.) You're treated with a bit of insight in each of their habits and their relationship, so it's not really half bad.
Overall, the 80 minutes of documentary material on Minority Report gets . . . . an 8.5/10 for me. What's there is great, the quality is high, and it's definitely an above average documentary.
The extras for the movie as a whole get an 8.5 as well. The Archive galleries of production concepts, still shots, and set designs were incredibly detailed and plentiful, the excellent 3 trailers are here, and the usual Cast info and the rather lengthy Production Notes are present as well. And don't forget the excellent Storyboard plays with the film's actual sound running. You get a good idea of how it was planned and seen on paper with the film's pace.
Overall, not the best set of extras, not the most plentiful, but still, very good stuff.

darqleo 01-09-03 08:19 PM

I totally agree with you Save Ferris. I'm very glad I rented this first. Also I don't think Spielberg was the right director for this either, he keeps having his "light" moments pop up when it should be really dark and gritty ala Blade Runner. Kind of like how A.I. was, Speilberg just didn't follow through.

GatorDeb 01-13-03 04:49 PM

Spoiler:
My mom stated that the end is not a dream because the precog saw their future child all grown up, going to college, etc. Sean didn't get to be that big.

I have a question. At the beginning we learn that red balls are for crimes of passion. Wasn't the Anderton killing supposed to be a crime of passion? He didn't pre-meditate it, he decided to kill Leo Crow once he found the pictures. To me that's the same scenario as the one in the beginning... hence why no red ball?

Pants 01-13-03 05:12 PM


Originally posted by GatorDeb
My mom stated that the end is not a dream because the precog saw their future child all grown up, going to college, etc. Sean didn't get to be that big.


I think you need to watch it again. The precog was seeing what "would have happened" to there son had he not died, not what would happen to their next child.

Neitzl 01-13-03 05:46 PM


Originally posted by GatorDeb
Spoiler:
My mom stated that the end is not a dream because the precog saw their future child all grown up, going to college, etc. Sean didn't get to be that big.

I have a question. At the beginning we learn that red balls are for crimes of passion. Wasn't the Anderton killing supposed to be a crime of passion? He didn't pre-meditate it, he decided to kill Leo Crow once he found the pictures. To me that's the same scenario as the one in the beginning... hence why no red ball?

Spoiler:

I think he had planned all along what he was going to do if he ever found the murderer of his son, he even says so himself. All he needed to know was WHO that person was. When everything was set into motion, it was a murder already planned, just only when everything fell into place.

Hope that I made some sense.

Neitzl

GatorDeb 01-13-03 09:02 PM


Originally posted by Pants
I think you need to watch it again. The precog was seeing what "would have happened" to there son had he not died, not what would happen to their next child.
Ah, but remember how the distinction is made clear that a precog cannot see what may happen, only what will :)


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