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mattysemo247 04-20-17 08:40 AM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by Nefarious (Post 13055802)
Ordered the LG OLED55B6P 55" 4K OLED TV today for $1,112 shipped. It'll be the living room TV in the house we are building.

Did you by chance order it from Amazon from a new seller? :)

mrhan 04-20-17 12:33 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
That is cheap. The lowest I found for that size is $1500 for a new one on ebay.

E Unit 04-20-17 01:36 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
If it sounds too good to be true....

A lot of people are getting it around $1600 or so, then using the Citi Price Rewind that will price match and refund the difference up to $500 if you make a purchase, if the price drops withing 60 days I believe. That would bring the set down to a very good price.

The trick to that is that you need to do a screenshot of a retailer who's selling it at such a low price, and those places are usually fraudulent.

kefrank 04-20-17 04:41 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
I really have not been all that interested in 4K, but was recently in the market for a new TV and picked up the Sony XBR49X900E, which is 4K. I mainly chose this model for some of the other features it has, but the 4K and HDR are a nice bonus. I don't think the resolution difference is particularly noticeable at this size with my seating distance, but this model has pretty awesome general image quality out of the box: great black levels, excellent motion handling, and accurate colors. Pretty much any content I've thrown at it has looked very good.

Obey The D 04-24-17 06:54 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 13057264)
I really have not been all that interested in 4K, but was recently in the market for a new TV and picked up the Sony XBR49X900E, which is 4K. I mainly chose this model for some of the other features it has, but the 4K and HDR are a nice bonus. I don't think the resolution difference is particularly noticeable at this size with my seating distance, but this model has pretty awesome general image quality out of the box: great black levels, excellent motion handling, and accurate colors. Pretty much any content I've thrown at it has looked very good.

As much as I want an OLED TV, the prices for a 65" are crazy. I've been looking at the 65" version of your model and will probably pick one up at the end of the summer. Everything I've read about it has been largely positive.

fumanstan 04-24-17 08:11 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
I've found 4K unimpressive but HDR amazing, at least as far as demos online go.

I'm really itching to get a UHD player just for more HDR content.

kefrank 04-25-17 02:12 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by Obey The D (Post 13059287)
As much as I want an OLED TV, the prices for a 65" are crazy. I've been looking at the 65" version of your model and will probably pick one up at the end of the summer. Everything I've read about it has been largely positive.

Just to clarify, the Sony model I bought is not OLED. It's LED-LCD with full-array local dimming. The main limitation I see in its image quality when compared to OLED is that it's a VA panel so quality degrades with off-axis viewing. This was not an issue for me though, as there are only two of us in the household (when there's not company) and we sit straight on.

bluetoast 04-26-17 11:14 AM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
I just got a new Vizio- would the Spears and Muncie disc be worth it for calibrating?

E Unit 04-26-17 11:26 AM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
Yeah, Spears and Munsil blu ray is a good one. Kind of goes without saying, but since this is a blu ray, it'll be great for calibrating 1080p, then you can tweak the 4K parts after. I'd also look at your model on Rtings.com and try those out as well. I'm guessing it's a 2017 model, so you'll be tweaking a lot on the HDR material.

GreenMonkey 04-26-17 04:44 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by Nefarious (Post 13055802)
Ordered the LG OLED55B6P 55" 4K OLED TV today for $1,112 shipped. It'll be the living room TV in the house we are building.

Did you actually get the TV shipped to you?

Most of the sellers offering it that low are bait and switch stores that try to get you to spend more money. Short of getting it for $1500 and pricematching via a price rewind card, it's pretty hard to actually get one for that price.

I bought the 65" E6 OLED for $2800 via ielectronica / ebay last month. Great TV. Loving the upgrade from my old Panny plasma.

The $1000 plus premium over the 55" was painful though, I'm normally a bang/buck kinda guy and I hesitated over it for quite a while.

mrhan 04-26-17 05:29 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by GreenMonkey (Post 13060636)

I bought the 65" E6 OLED for $2800 via ielectronica / ebay last month. Great TV. Loving the upgrade from my old Panny plasma.

The $1000 plus premium over the 55" was painful though, I'm normally a bang/buck kinda guy and I hesitated over it for quite a while.

I pretty much paid the same for my 65" OLED and the price didn't really bother me at all 'cause I paid a whole lot more for my 58" Panny plasma back in '06. :lol:

bluetoast 04-26-17 09:47 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by E Unit (Post 13060438)
Yeah, Spears and Munsil blu ray is a good one. Kind of goes without saying, but since this is a blu ray, it'll be great for calibrating 1080p, then you can tweak the 4K parts after. I'd also look at your model on Rtings.com and try those out as well. I'm guessing it's a 2017 model, so you'll be tweaking a lot on the HDR material.

Thanks for the info. I'm already seeing that "soap opera fast" look ok THR evtrrn which I'm going to have to adjust.

Nefarious 05-01-17 01:38 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by GreenMonkey (Post 13060636)
Did you actually get the TV shipped to you?

Most of the sellers offering it that low are bait and switch stores that try to get you to spend more money. Short of getting it for $1500 and pricematching via a price rewind card, it's pretty hard to actually get one for that price.

I bought the 65" E6 OLED for $2800 via ielectronica / ebay last month. Great TV. Loving the upgrade from my old Panny plasma.

The $1000 plus premium over the 55" was painful though, I'm normally a bang/buck kinda guy and I hesitated over it for quite a while.

Sorry -- been away for a while.

So there were 3-4 sellers listing it at that price on the Google shopping tab. Joe's AV had a lot of reviews and overall like a 4.5 out of 5 rating. That's who I originally ordered from. I got a call a day or two later and originally the guy told me it would be 3-4 weeks since they were waiting on more stock. I said that was fine, I wasn't in a hurry. He then tried to tell me that I didn't really want that one because the lag issue was bad and it was the "Asian" model. I just told him to cancel it because they obviously were just being snake-oil salesman.

There was another vendor selling it for around the same price. I spoke with them and they seemed more on the up and up and were willing to do the deal but I just decided it wasn't worth the risk and I bought a new one on eBay for $1,500.

Obey The D 05-18-17 08:14 AM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
I wound up getting the Sony XBR-65X900E and am extremely happy with it. The black levels for an LED TV are very impressive. The HDR is even more impressive. Finished Jessica Jones on Netflix and the difference between the standard and 4K HDR presentation is very noticeable.

kefrank 05-18-17 09:27 AM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by Obey The D (Post 13075806)
I wound up getting the Sony XBR-65X900E and am extremely happy with it. The black levels for an LED TV are very impressive. The HDR is even more impressive. Finished Jessica Jones on Netflix and the difference between the standard and 4K HDR presentation is very noticeable.

:thumbsup: I have had the 49" of the model for several weeks now and I continue to be extremely impressed with it!

Why So Blu? 05-21-17 02:39 PM

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These will be up for pre-order on Amazon next week -- I may throw my hat in there and pre-order the $699 version. The P-Series. There's also a C-Series, but I've read they're less good.

https://www.cnet.com/products/tcl-65p607/preview/


These also have full HDR - Dolby Vision:

TCL P-Series Roku TV

Three sizes from 50 to 65 inches
Contrast Control Zone (local dimming) technology with 72 zones
Dolby Vision and HDR10 high dynamic range (HDR)
Wide Color Gamut (percentage DCI unspecified)
4K resolution
Roku TV operating system
Remote with voice search, headphone jack for private listening

E Unit 05-21-17 07:18 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
I'll wait and see what the reviews have to say. But I am very curious to hear more about them.

E Unit 05-26-17 09:34 AM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 13078190)
These will be up for pre-order on Amazon next week -- I may throw my hat in there and pre-order the $699 version. The P-Series. There's also a C-Series, but I've read they're less good.

https://www.cnet.com/products/tcl-65p607/preview/


These also have full HDR - Dolby Vision:

TCL P-Series Roku TV

Three sizes from 50 to 65 inches
Contrast Control Zone (local dimming) technology with 72 zones
Dolby Vision and HDR10 high dynamic range (HDR)
Wide Color Gamut (percentage DCI unspecified)
4K resolution
Roku TV operating system
Remote with voice search, headphone jack for private listening

Preorder is up for their 55" P series model for $599.99. Damn good price, as long as it's not garbage.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y6FSV5Q

jjcool 05-26-17 12:09 PM

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And it is already Not Available. One review so far, that seems to have gone up before it was released, and tells us nothing that isn't already in the description.

E Unit 05-26-17 12:46 PM

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This is probably why.

Pre-Order the New TCL 55" P-Series for a Special Introductory Price!

It’s almost here! The first TV to combine Dolby Vision for premium picture performance and the Roku smart platform for easy access to the most streaming content ships soon from Amazon! You can pre-order it today at a special price of $599.99 before it goes back up to its regular price of $649.99.
TCL’s P-Series delivers powerful picture performance by combining Dolby Vision, the premium HDR experience, with advanced technologies that offer superior contrast and brighter, more accurate colors. With Contrast Control Zones, contrast is individually optimized across 72 zones to achieve striking contrast between bright and dark areas of the image, providing an unrivaled sense of depth and reality.
The P-Series also comes fully equipped with the popular Roku streaming platform, giving you access to over 400,000 streaming Movies & TV Shows as well as an intuitive interface to easily connect cable, antenna, gaming consoles and other devices.

Why So Blu? 05-26-17 01:07 PM

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I just put in the email alert.

fumanstan 05-26-17 02:28 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
I can't imagine preordering a TV like that unseen.

jjcool 05-26-17 03:48 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by E Unit (Post 13082264)
This is probably why.

Pre-Order the New TCL 55" P-Series for a Special Introductory Price!

It’s almost here! The first TV to combine Dolby Vision for premium picture performance and the Roku smart platform for easy access to the most streaming content ships soon from Amazon! You can pre-order it today at a special price of $599.99 before it goes back up to its regular price of $649.99.
TCL’s P-Series delivers powerful picture performance by combining Dolby Vision, the premium HDR experience, with advanced technologies that offer superior contrast and brighter, more accurate colors. With Contrast Control Zones, contrast is individually optimized across 72 zones to achieve striking contrast between bright and dark areas of the image, providing an unrivaled sense of depth and reality.
The P-Series also comes fully equipped with the popular Roku streaming platform, giving you access to over 400,000 streaming Movies & TV Shows as well as an intuitive interface to easily connect cable, antenna, gaming consoles and other devices.


Originally Posted by E Unit (Post 13082081)
Preorder is up for their 55" P series model for $599.99. Damn good price, as long as it's not garbage.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y6FSV5Q

So was it not yet available for preorder?

E Unit 05-26-17 04:24 PM

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Not until today, although not sure when they'll start shipping.

mrhan 05-26-17 06:54 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by jjcool (Post 13082225)
And it is already Not Available. One review so far, that seems to have gone up before it was released, and tells us nothing that isn't already in the description.

That same reviewer gave a 5 star rating to another no name brand. :lol:

Why So Blu? 05-28-17 11:58 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
It's up:

Usually ships within 2 to 3 months.
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.

Lock in that price.

E Unit 05-29-17 08:14 AM

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Nah, it's 55", I'm going to hold out for the 65" and some reviews. AVS forum has one up and it got an overall pretty good review. I'm cautiously optimistic the 65" will be the same or a little better.

http://www.avsforum.com/tcl-55-p-ser...on-first-look/

GreenMonkey 06-02-17 04:22 AM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by mrhan (Post 13060668)
I pretty much paid the same for my 65" OLED and the price didn't really bother me at all 'cause I paid a whole lot more for my 58" Panny plasma back in '06. :lol:

I'm loving the OLED.

I don't even really like 3D but it is fantastic on this set - enough that I picked up a couple of titles in 3D now.

Motion isn't quite up to par with my plasma - still playing a bit with the de-judder / de-blur settings - but that's something plasma excelled at.

mrhan 06-02-17 08:54 AM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by GreenMonkey (Post 13086278)
I'm loving the OLED.

I don't even really like 3D but it is fantastic on this set - enough that I picked up a couple of titles in 3D now.

Motion isn't quite up to par with my plasma - still playing a bit with the de-judder / de-blur settings - but that's something plasma excelled at.

I'm sure the prices will go down even more. I'd love to put one in the bedroom. I don't watch much 3D even though I noticed I have quite a few 3D movies in my collection. I get eye strain very easily but the 3D conversions on some of the movies look great.

Check out "Legend of the Guardians-Owls of Ga'hoole" in 3D; it looks awesome. :)

Unclejosh 06-07-17 02:02 PM

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So I got a huge surprise and my kids (well really my ex-wife) ended up getting me a combination early father's day/birthday gift and got me a LG OLED55C6P out of the blue. I had been talking about how it was my dream TV and how I wished I could get one and discussing the deals on the Slickdeals site where people were able to get it for around $1000 by price matching. I guess she came into some money from her Dad so she got me it as a thank you for being a great dad for the past 18 years to our daughter who just graduated high school and because I had been letting her use my plasma TV which I had in storage when her TV died. I was brought to tears no lie, but that isn't the point of this post.

Does anyone have any good basic settings or start up tips to get this TV to run optimally. Obviously i know this type of TV should be professional calibrated but that is not something currently an option so am just looking for a jumping off point. I have looked online and seem some basic settings but I am more interested in real users in real world situations rather than a possibly perfect review version only TV in a professional lab.


Thanks!

fumanstan 06-07-17 03:45 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by Unclejosh (Post 13090135)
So I got a huge surprise and my kids (well really my ex-wife) ended up getting me a combination early father's day/birthday gift and got me a LG OLED55C6P out of the blue. I had been talking about how it was my dream TV and how I wished I could get one and discussing the deals on the Slickdeals site where people were able to get it for around $1000 by price matching. I guess she came into some money from her Dad so she got me it as a thank you for being a great dad for the past 18 years to our daughter who just graduated high school and because I had been letting her use my plasma TV which I had in storage when her TV died. I was brought to tears no lie, but that isn't the point of this post.

Thanks!

I don't have much to add, but knowing your situation from the other thread in Other I just wanted to say congrats. Hope it's a string of other positives for you :up:

mrhan 06-07-17 09:14 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by Unclejosh (Post 13090135)
So I got a huge surprise and my kids (well really my ex-wife) ended up getting me a combination early father's day/birthday gift and got me a LG OLED55C6P out of the blue. I had been talking about how it was my dream TV and how I wished I could get one and discussing the deals on the Slickdeals site where people were able to get it for around $1000 by price matching. I guess she came into some money from her Dad so she got me it as a thank you for being a great dad for the past 18 years to our daughter who just graduated high school and because I had been letting her use my plasma TV which I had in storage when her TV died. I was brought to tears no lie, but that isn't the point of this post.

Does anyone have any good basic settings or start up tips to get this TV to run optimally. Obviously i know this type of TV should be professional calibrated but that is not something currently an option so am just looking for a jumping off point. I have looked online and seem some basic settings but I am more interested in real users in real world situations rather than a possibly perfect review version only TV in a professional lab.


Thanks!

That's cool. Congrats. Get a 4K player to go along with it. As for settings; there's a link on one of the previous pages for settings. I've tried it and tweeked the picture to my liking. I don't really think it needs professional calibration but that's just me. :)

Unclejosh 06-08-17 01:10 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 13090277)
I don't have much to add, but knowing your situation from the other thread in Other I just wanted to say congrats. Hope it's a string of other positives for you :up:

Thanks I appreciate the kind words. I will say I hope so too!

Unclejosh 06-08-17 01:11 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by mrhan (Post 13090525)
That's cool. Congrats. Get a 4K player to go along with it. As for settings; there's a link on one of the previous pages for settings. I've tried it and tweeked the picture to my liking. I don't really think it needs professional calibration but that's just me. :)

Oh duh, I should have gone back and re-read the thread. I am an idiot, thanks for the reminder.

Any recommendations on a 4K player?

GreenMonkey 06-08-17 10:19 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by Unclejosh (Post 13090135)
So I got a huge surprise and my kids (well really my ex-wife) ended up getting me a combination early father's day/birthday gift and got me a LG OLED55C6P out of the blue. I had been talking about how it was my dream TV and how I wished I could get one and discussing the deals on the Slickdeals site where people were able to get it for around $1000 by price matching. I guess she came into some money from her Dad so she got me it as a thank you for being a great dad for the past 18 years to our daughter who just graduated high school and because I had been letting her use my plasma TV which I had in storage when her TV died. I was brought to tears no lie, but that isn't the point of this post.

Does anyone have any good basic settings or start up tips to get this TV to run optimally. Obviously i know this type of TV should be professional calibrated but that is not something currently an option so am just looking for a jumping off point. I have looked online and seem some basic settings but I am more interested in real users in real world situations rather than a possibly perfect review version only TV in a professional lab.


Thanks!

Dig around for the Tru Motion custom settings and turn that shit down, ASAP. Unless you like the soap opera effect.

I'm on dejudder 1 deblur 9 or something like that right now.

From what I gathered, ISF Dark Room preset is the most accurate base level to start with.

If you do any gaming, use Game Mode for games. The input lag is atrocious without it on. I've got a separate HDMI preset for gaming. Use both outputs from my Onkyo, so I have an Xbox gaming input and an Xbox movie input (using Xbox One S for UHD discs as it was a cheap upgrade).

Some default settings on this AVSforum thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...g-oled-b6.html

I haven't had time to properly calibrate it (have some test patterns on a USB) but I've dialed in a halfway decent picture at this point.

Also, for some reason the TV frequently says it is up to date via internet updating, but isn't. A lot of times for the latest firmware you'll have to download the firmware manually from LG's site and install via usb.

Why So Blu? 06-19-17 12:45 AM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
The reviews have started to put in and it it gets a 4-star. The 1 star reviews state that the TV has major backlight bleed, but others have pointed out that those claims are false and that folks just got defective units.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

E Unit 06-19-17 08:59 AM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 
Some reviews have called out the bleed as well. Until they report they were defective units and start seeing positive reviews that say there is little to no bleed, I'm staying away from them.

kahuna 06-19-17 02:11 PM

Re: 4K, HDR, Audio, and New Tech
 

Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 13098038)
The reviews have started to put in and it it gets a 4-star. The 1 star reviews state that the TV has major backlight bleed, but others have pointed out that those claims are false and that folks just got defective units.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

There are 12 one & two star ratings. Most of these were from buyers who got their tv first. Lots of them were damaged or defective. Lots of people are saying you have to be very careful how you handle the tv when removing it from the box & when setting it up. Lots of 5 star ratings the past few days.

My BB won't be getting this tv in stock until the end of the month. That is what I'm waiting for. Some people on AVS Forums say they are getting there TV from BB starting tomorrow.

Amazon also raised their price to $649.99.

Why So Blu? 06-20-17 09:46 AM

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Amazon now raised to $799

jjcool 06-21-17 12:50 PM

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Easy pass at that price.


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