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DRAGOn 12-18-00 08:42 PM

So...I was watching the Matrix dvd and I noticed a horrible sync problem with it...Now...I don't notice it with all the dvds, and I don't notice it all the time on the same dvd...What's up...Is it my dvd player or is it the dvd itself. Or is it my connection. I think it wasn't a problem when I was using coax vs. composite. And my tv doesn't have component or s-video (which my player has capable), I'm just using composite connection.

Just wondering what the problems is


Andy Kim 12-19-00 12:30 AM

It doesn't matter which connections you use, your player seems to be suffering from the lip synch problem that dogged a lot of earlier players. But I'm mostly certain that its your player and it might need a firmware upgrade.

exm 12-19-00 04:50 AM

The Apex has a reputation for these problems

jpcamb 12-19-00 08:35 AM

As does my year old sony. Uusually I hit stop and then play and it is back in synch. http://talk.dvdtalk.com/ubb/smile.gif

Can I get a firmware upgrade for that? How much would it cost and can it be done at a store?

ANDREMIKE 12-19-00 09:46 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jpcamb:
As does my year old sony. Uusually I hit stop and then play and it is back in synch. http://talk.dvdtalk.com/ubb/smile.gif

Can I get a firmware upgrade for that? How much would it cost and can it be done at a store?
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If there is a Sony repair center in your area you can bring it in and they can do an upgrade. It will not cost anything. However they might give you a hard time about doing it because the unit is probably more then a year old. You should put up a stink and say you just found out about this problem. Hopefully they will do it for free.

DRAGOn 12-19-00 12:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by exm:
The Apex has a reputation for these problems</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good Call...My player is the Apex 600a...

I know it's a crappy player and it's not even my primary, but I love it...Can it be upgraded? How?

Thanks


exm 12-20-00 10:55 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DRAGOn:
Good Call...My player is the Apex 600a...

I know it's a crappy player and it's not even my primary, but I love it...Can it be upgraded? How?

Thanks
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I had an APEX AD600A/Loophole 9/99 too and had so many problems that I sold it. The only solution is to fix many bugs like audio sync, seamless branching, etc is to upgrade your EEPROM but then you'll lose the loophole menu!

I have to say: I upgraded to a Toshiba SD-2200 and I haven't had a SINGLE problem with any of my DVD's (100+) and the quality (built, audio, video) is so much better! My recommendation: ditch the Apex and buy an 'A-brand' DVD-player (I bought my Toshiba for $205 so a good player doesn't have to be expensive!)


DRAGOn 12-20-00 06:51 PM

this is a really crazy idea...I have no TECHNICAL basis for what I'm gonna say, but I'll say it anyway...

I've heard that the APEX 600A is just a standard DVD-ROM drive inside some generic chassis, and that if you were to take out the drive you could put it in your system and it would be recognized by windows (plug and play).

So...WHAT IF (and this is a BIG "what if")...I put some windows dvd rom drive in it....If it had one of those standard computer connections (like an IDE of something) inside the apex.

Ok...let's assume for a minute, that this plan works. Would the the problem be fixed with the audio sync, branching etc, while keeping the loophole menu. Basically, what I'm asking is, is the problem in the dvd reader, or whatever processing, or lack there of, that goes on.

Does this make sense???

exm 12-21-00 04:14 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DRAGOn:
this is a really crazy idea...I have no TECHNICAL basis for what I'm gonna say, but I'll say it anyway...

I've heard that the APEX 600A is just a standard DVD-ROM drive inside some generic chassis, and that if you were to take out the drive you could put it in your system and it would be recognized by windows (plug and play).

So...WHAT IF (and this is a BIG "what if")...I put some windows dvd rom drive in it....If it had one of those standard computer connections (like an IDE of something) inside the apex.

Ok...let's assume for a minute, that this plan works. Would the the problem be fixed with the audio sync, branching etc, while keeping the loophole menu. Basically, what I'm asking is, is the problem in the dvd reader, or whatever processing, or lack there of, that goes on.

Does this make sense???
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You might be able to connect the APEX DVD-ROM to your IDE-connector but I don't think you can connect another BRAND DVD-ROM to your APEX-connectors. You might even destroy your APEX.

DigIt 12-21-00 09:28 AM

Also, the lip-synch problem is not occurring in the read phase (i.e., in the drive) but in the decoding/processing phase. Therefore, changing the drive isn't likely to solve lip-synch problems.

[This message has been edited by DigIt (edited December 21, 2000).]

valleykid 12-21-00 02:09 PM

I have the Sony 530D and it had this problem. I took it in and, although under warranty, Sony fixed it for free. I guess this was a big problem with their players and Sony is cool about fixing it. Give them a call or write them. Better yet, take it in to a place that services Sony and I'm sure it won't come as a suprise that you're in there.


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