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Old 01-29-16, 08:36 PM   #51
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Thanks for info. I've been holding off buying some discs for music archiving.

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Old 01-29-16, 08:38 PM   #52
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Over the past decade or so, I was primarily using blanks for backing up the computer operating system and various important documents.

I recently picked up a new desktop computer, which mostly uses flash drives for backing up the operating system now. (They don't use burned dvdrs anymore for operating system backups).

In the category of "important documents", it is mostly a lot of digital photos which I was archiving using TY blank discs, with a Plextor dvdr drive back in the day. (Later I was using a LiteOn dvdr drive, burning at slower speeds).

I rarely ever burned music cds, and never got into burning movie dvds.
I use a ton of flash drives for hi-res music dl's played through my Oppo. In my experience, we're seeing the same decline here as in disc quality. At this time the Corsair Slider is the only semi budget Flash Drive I will buy. Previously reliable brands Lexar & Sandisk have especially turned to garbage in my experience.
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Old 01-29-16, 08:41 PM   #53
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I've seriously considered ripping my cd collection several times, but each time I just can't justify the hard drive space. I've got the files on cd already, why should I also use space on my hard drive that I could use for other music I dont already have on CD?
I'd love to rip my cd's for a major downsize (I have 5300 TITLES on ?10,000? discs), but the time involved would be prohibitive. I'm slowly replacing my 44/16 with official hi-res downloads that I put on Flash & back up to multiple hard drives.
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Old 01-29-16, 08:44 PM   #54
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Definitely. Very reliable in those days.

(As an aside).

Back around 2009 or so, I had an "itch" and a lot of "idle fantasies" about ripping/burning tons of movie dvds. At the time I had just purchased a new desktop computer, which had a then-newer SATA interface for the dvdr drive. (My previous desktop died from a hard drive failure, where I figured it would be easier to just buy a new computer than trying to fix the old hunk of junk).

My priority was finding a Plextor dvd drive, but at the time I had come to the realization that genuine Plextor drives were not being manufactured anymore. Then-newer manufactured "Plextor" drives turned out to be LiteOn rebadges, where the "Plextor" name was just pasted on the front of a LiteOn manufactured dvd drive. (The dvd drive which came with my then-new desktop, was already a LiteOn). The only older "genuine" Plextor drives I could easily find at the time, were mostly old leftover inventory with the older IDE interface.

This very much abruptly ended any and all "idle fantasies" I had about ripping/burning tons of movie dvd discs. Even using TY blank discs, I didn't trust non-genuine Plextor dvd drives for burning a lot of discs.
agree. I still have a few old Plex Premiums & 40/12's. I need to get some ide/Sata adaptors & start using them again!
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Old 01-30-16, 12:58 AM   #55
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10-15 years ago I brought all the FujiFilm Taiyo Yuden Dvd-r 50 spindles I could find. The ID code was TY01. A few times BB had them on sale for $9.99 a spindle. I brought everything they had in stock at the time. Probably ended up with 50 spindles total after the sales. Then they disappeared from the shelves.

I then jump on the Sony 50 & 100 Dvd-r spindles also Taiyo Yuden & made in Japan. Of course these also disappeared from the stores every where. These were only on the five Panny dvd recorders I had brought I own.

I could of brought Taiyo Yuden from Supermedia website but shipping was a killer to HI. Back in the day I brought some crap media from Computer City/Comp USA. There house brand was "Princo". All of those in less than a year or 2 ended in the landfill. What a waste of some good Korean Dramas with english subs.

I think I also have maybe 12,000 discs in my bedroom & closet.
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Old 01-30-16, 04:51 PM   #56
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I've had a bunch of Comp City Comp USA cdr's go bad. They were garbage.
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Old 01-30-16, 09:18 PM   #57
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Re: HORRIBLE News: CMC bought TY from JVC.

Most store brand electronics are crap, aren't they?
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Old 01-31-16, 02:59 AM   #58
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Aren't most store brand electronics are crap, aren't they?
As a general broad brush statement, I would probably agree.

Though in the rare case, there may be some exceptions. As an extreme case for example, rumor has it various BestBuy store brand standalone bluray players were possibly region free where the original manufacturer didn't bother to correct the "mistake". (Unfortunately these models don't appear to be manufactured anymore. It was tempting to buy one at a local liquidation outlet).
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Old 05-15-16, 03:40 PM   #59
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I use a ton of flash drives for hi-res music dl's played through my Oppo. In my experience, we're seeing the same decline here as in disc quality. At this time the Corsair Slider is the only semi budget Flash Drive I will buy. Previously reliable brands Lexar & Sandisk have especially turned to garbage in my experience.
Case in point.

I don't purchase many flash drives. But recently I've been coming across too many "lemons" which are DOA. (ie. They don't even work straight out of the box).

Until recently, I've mostly been purchasing sandisc packages of three 16gb flash drives from Costco, largely because they're relatively inexpensive and Costco has a "no questions asked" return policy.

Every time I buy new flash drives now, I immediately do a full fledge format to see whether there are any bad sectors. For example (besides the DOA lemons), I have encountered new 16 gb flash drives which were completely dead after a few gigabytes. One drive even choked at 64 megabytes! (This crap went back for a refund at Costco).


Really lousy quality control indeed.

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Old 08-23-16, 10:03 AM   #60
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With the popularity of streaming, downloading, portable hard drives & flash drives I suspect the blank disc market (especially cd) is rapidly declining
For that matter, the computer dvdr drive market has also declined significantly over the past 5+ years. Excluding the rebadgers (ie. Asus, "Plextor", etc ...), for example Sony discontinued the Optiarc back in 2012.

For non-slim internal dvdr drives, there's only really three manufacturers left: LG, LiteOn, and Samsung. Of these three companies, Samsung/TSST recently filed for bankruptcy, while LiteOn has largely disappeared from local computer stores. (No word on when the next LiteOn updated dvdr drive will start showing up on computer store shelves).

Somewhat sucky that LG might very well be the last man standing, when it comes to current dvdr computer drives. In general, I thought LG drives were largely crap, despite being still widely available.
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Old 08-23-16, 04:24 PM   #61
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Re: HORRIBLE News: CMC bought TY from JVC.

I was in the local microcenter for something else recently and went down the optical drive aisle. There were very, very few offerings. I couldn't find one blue ray drive for example. Not a recorder, just a read only drive.
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Old 08-23-16, 06:29 PM   #62
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I was in the local microcenter for something else recently and went down the optical drive aisle. There were very, very few offerings. I couldn't find one blue ray drive for example. Not a recorder, just a read only drive.
It's even worse for computer bluray drives.

At this point in time, there's only one company that is still making non-slim computer bd-r drives: LG.

Samsung, Sony, LiteOn, etc ... already exited that market.


For external bluray drives, Samsung and Pioneer are still making new drives. (In addition to LG).

Not a whole lot else left.
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Re: HORRIBLE News: CMC bought TY from JVC.

Blu-ray in PC never really took off.

I suspect it was because of too much copy protection and DRM on purchased discs, and the recordable discs were too expensive. With HD and flash prices dropping like a rock and increasing in storage, there's not much advantage to burning anything to discs.

Optical discs in PCs are going the way of the 3.5" floppy.
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Old 08-24-16, 08:12 AM   #64
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Blu-ray in PC never really took off.

I suspect it was because of too much copy protection and DRM on purchased discs, and the recordable discs were too expensive.
One big impediment was Microsoft supporting hd-dvd a decade ago, in a largely half assed manner. MS Windows never had a native bluray player.

By 2009, copy protection wasn't a barrier anymore for blurays. AACS and BD+ were largely cracked by then.

In hindsight, I'm guessing Microsoft supporting hd-dvd was their way of muddying up the market and giving the middle finger to Sony.

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With HD and flash prices dropping like a rock and increasing in storage, there's not much advantage to burning anything to discs.
For the most part. Easier to just buy inexpensive flash drives or larger capacity external hard drives.

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Optical discs in PCs are going the way of the 3.5" floppy.
One recent nail in the coffin is the native dvd player program being completely removed from the generic Windows10.
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Well that certainly sucks.
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One recent nail in the coffin is the native dvd player program being completely removed from the generic Windows10.
Maybe. But Microsoft's media player has been shit for years. I use VLC for playing video files and DVDs and WinAmp for music. (Though it's very rare that I plat DVDs on my PC. I'll occasionally use it to check a disc or something, but that's it.)

I'd wager that most people who play media on their PCs use third party players.
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Old 06-07-17, 01:53 PM   #67
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I've had a bunch of Comp City Comp USA cdr's go bad. They were garbage.
I had 100's of Comp USA Dvd -/+ r dvds go bad also. Most of these were manufactured by Princo or Optodisc.
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