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kvrdave 01-05-12 10:44 AM

Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
My bulb in my projector is about to go out and I have been kicking around upgrading. I have the panny pt-ae900 which is only 720. And my Lost blu-rays showed up, so obviously a crisis is here. I would like to move up to a 1080 projector.

My current one shows an output of 1100 lumens, and I wouldn't mind stepping that up a bit. The next step up is the pt-ae4000 which is 1080, and is rated at 1600 lumens. I don't like to compare lumens across companies, as they seem to be a bit off, but with the same company it should be okay.

But they also have 3D out now as well. I tend to want the new stuff, but every time I look at 3D stuff at Costco, etc., I am unimpressed. It looks like 2D images hovering over other 2D images instead of actual depth. Will this ultimately improve? Any other projector people here? Any others besides the panasonics that people really like?

clckworang 01-05-12 11:07 AM

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I have an Optoma HD66. I was for looking for something on a bit of a budget. It's only 720p but is 3D capable. I realize my model wouldn't be something you'd want since you want to go 1080, but I figured you might find some of my experiences useful. I've been really impressed with its performance so far, especially considering I'm using it outdoors. I got the 3D converter box for Christmas and have been really satisfied with that. Of course, I'm watching on a 8' x 12' screen; I'm sure that helps.

In response to your comment about 2D images hovering over other 2D images, I get what you're saying. I haven't watched too many 3D titles on the projector yet, but I've found it really depends on the title. Avatar in particular really wowed me and my friend. It really did give a great sense of depth. Of course, don't forget to factor in the cost of glasses. Mine requires active glasses, and they'll run you around $70 each, maybe a little more or a little less depending on the brand, etc. You can apparently make my projector work for passive 3D ... you just need to have another projector running with it as well. Uh, not on my budget.

Numanoid 01-05-12 05:53 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
I'd definitely go 3D. It's the way of the future, like it or not, and I can't wait to upgrade to that myself on my front projector. It will be awesome to not only watch 3D movies, but to game, in 3D on a huge screen.

kvrdave 01-05-12 06:32 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
Do you think 3D might be a "next time" after this time thing? The 4000 is $1750 and the 7000 is $3,000. I can see it being something some day, but for the cost difference (and the performance deifference otherwise doesn't seem huge) it seems like I might be better off waiting. I don't play games much....or at all really. Just flash stuff while I'm at work. :lol:

Joe Schmoe 01-05-12 06:56 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
You may want to check out the Optoma HD33 on Amazon. It does 1080p and 3D, and it currently sells for $1,429. I think ProjectorPeople has it for $1,398 right now. Anyway, the customer reviews are very positive. I'm hoping to get it in the coming months.

Spiky 01-05-12 07:38 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
It's funny, I have the AE900 and have been shopping all week. Here's what I've been seeing. First, I recommend this shootout:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/home...80p_review.htm

Personally, I'm a little gunshy on DLP. I had RBE issues, and the low end models don't usually have the correct lens shift to fit in my room, anyway. Otherwise, the Mitsubishi HC series has really been top of class for years, and it seems the HC4000 is no different.

The AE4000 is on its way out. It has been replaced with the 7000, but is still around, so watch prices closely in the next quarter. In a twist, Panny has also replaced the AX200 with the AR100, but it is almost more like a descendant of the 4000 than the AX series. The AX was brighter, but with lesser picture quality for an HT than the AE series. The AR100 is a light cannon with the same LCDs and most of the same processing as the 7000. It does not have 3D, but is $1500. All through Dec it was $1300 @ Visual Apex, so it's likely something like that price would come around again. I could get into the idea of more light, frankly.

But the one in my cart on Amazon (for a little more consideration) is the Epson 8350. The last 2 years the 8xxx series apparently has had lamp problems (rated for 4000hr, but dying under 1000), which Epson has been pretty good about, replacing for free and extending the warranty. And they claim to have fixed the problem in manufacturing last summer. So, that's a bit disconcerting, but I'm optimistic this is a good deal at $1100, although it's a little too early to hear user reviews of the revised lamps. I have no interest in paying a dime for 3D, I won't avoid it if it's there, but the PJs are pumping prices quite a bit to add it, usually more of an increase than flat panel LCDs.

Epson also has new models very similar to the AR100/AE7000, as usual. (Epson makes Panny's LCD panels) They are the 3010/5010. The lower 3010 does have 3D, which the AR100 doesn't, but it uses lesser panels compared to the other 3 models. What I mean is, the 5010, AR100, AE7000 all have the same exact LCDs, although I think I read the AR100s are only operating at 120 or 240Hz since it isn't 3D.

Still considering....

E Unit 01-05-12 07:50 PM

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I wonder if we'll hear about any new developments at CES next week. I'm in the market for a projector to display on a 12-15 foot screen in my new room.

Spiky 01-05-12 07:58 PM

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Oh, man. Now I'm looking around again and saw this recommended:
http://www.visualapex.com/Epson/Proj...inema-6500UB-R

Under $1000 for a refurb, but it's a factory refurb with full 2 year warranty. SO Reon-x processing, which beats anything I've got right now. Don't know that the low end projectors with D9 chips (I mentioned above) could compete with a higher end D7 model with quality deinterlacer and FI. But this would almost certainly be a better buy than the 8350 I've been considering.

kvrdave 01-05-12 10:12 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
I considered the Optoma, and don't have any issue with rainbows, but it doesn't have lens shift, and with mine mounted on the ceiling, that is a bit of a must for me. I could keystone it to fit, but I don't like the idea of losing resolution. In fact, my first projector was an infocus X1 (I think) that was 800x600 with a single speed color wheel, and I loved the hell out of that.

Here is what I am fighting....
1) I tend to think you get what you pay for and would hate to spend a little less on something and not get the quality of the ae4000 (even though it would likely blow the doors off my ae900)
2) I am a tightass and will continue to ruminate about which one to buy forever.
3) If I purchase it this month, I can do so through my company as a business expense, which would have some tax savings for me.

Oh, let me throw this out there, just in case this makes some difference. I use this for TV, movies, and computer stuff, but rarely play games. I tend to keep it on for 8 hours or so per day, so I can put 3,000 hours on a bulb in a year pretty easily. I tend to not notice the bulb has gotten dim, however, so I don't change them often. I'm willing to find $350 a year for a new bulb because I love tv that much, that this isn't a real concern. Though the tightass in me sees that other bulbs are only $300 and that makes me look at them. :lol: I think it is a worse sickness than being a teenage girl who like Twilight

X 01-05-12 10:15 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
What about higher-end? Movie only, 3D not important. I haven't kept up since the JVC/Sony projectors seemed to be the ones to get.

kvrdave 01-05-12 11:38 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
What do you mean by higher end? If you are in the $15,000 range, most everything seems to point to Runco. Othewise, I know I have Home Theater Magazine at work, and they always show their current top 3 for entry, mid, and upper end. I should probably look at it for myself as well. :lol:

X 01-05-12 11:40 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
Around $5K.

Spiky 01-06-12 10:26 AM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
Well, presumably "higher end" refers to LCoS? LG now has a model that is selling for just over $2k, I think they took out some fancy (but not absolutely necessary) features like motorized lens to put an LCoS in the range of LCD models. Pretty good reviews. Others are around $3K to start.

It is annoying that similar lamps for Panny and Epson have a $100 difference in price. So, for a nearly identical PJ, the Panny version usually costs more, has shorter lamp life (the recent Epson issues notwithstanding), and the lamp costs more.

kvrdave 01-06-12 10:35 AM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
Home Theater Magazine has as their 3 top midrange picks:
1) Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 9700 UB $3,199
2) Sony VPL-HW30ES 3D SCRD Projector $3,700
3) JVC DLA-X3 3D D-ILA Projector $4,500

They show 2 in their high end top picks:
1) JVC DLA-X7 3D D-ILA Projector $8,000
2) Sony Bravia VPL-VW90ES 3D SXRD $9,999

Given those are MSRPs, a guy might find them a fair amount cheaper.

kvrdave 01-06-12 10:40 AM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 

Originally Posted by Spiky (Post 11066657)
Well, presumably "higher end" refers to LCoS? LG now has a model that is selling for just over $2k, I think they took out some fancy (but not absolutely necessary) features like motorized lens to put an LCoS in the range of LCD models. Pretty good reviews. Others are around $3K to start.

Reviews for that are pretty dang good. Looks like the biggest issue is that it is almost too bright. :lol: But it is 120hz, has lens shift (which I need with my ceiling mount) is only $1,600 and includes a free extra lamp right now.


It is annoying that similar lamps for Panny and Epson have a $100 difference in price. So, for a nearly identical PJ, the Panny version usually costs more, has shorter lamp life (the recent Epson issues notwithstanding), and the lamp costs more.
It is. I assume it is because of their special "red" bulb, which does get awfully good reviews.

Part of the problem I keep running into is the knowledge that I know anything I get will kill what I have, so I don't need the top, but the Panasonics really do seem better for overall color, contrast etc. The 4000 is 100,000:1 while the LG is 35,000:1. But hell, my 900 is 5,500:1 and it blows people away.

X 01-06-12 11:38 AM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
I've got to check out some of those LCoS models. That's the technology I've mostly been wanting since seeing a demo of the prototype of the original Sony SXRD. Getting a good one in the $3K range would be very nice.

kvrdave 01-06-12 11:48 AM

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Decent article about comparisons. Looks like the JVC does well. http://www.projectorreviews.com/1080...ctor/index.php

Spiky 01-06-12 12:18 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
Oh, damn. I had discounted that when I saw $2050 or something, but $1600 including a spare lamp makes me think...

kvrdave 01-06-12 12:45 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
Yeah. The 4000 is $1749, but you have to mess with a rebate. You'd have to on the free bulb with the LG, but that doesn't bother me. In depth review here http://www.projectorreviews.com/lg/cf181d/index.php I am really close to this one. Looking at ceiling mounts now. My old one isn't heavy enough, I don't think. The 900 is only about 8 pounds and this is closer to 22.

Spiky 01-06-12 12:59 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
Yeah. Even the Epsons I'm looking at are 16#. I would likely need a new mount. The LG is huge, too. Twice as tall as our 900, but I can work around that.

My spare cash shows up the end of this month. Lots of time to have a new favorite every day.

X 01-06-12 01:26 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 

Originally Posted by Spiky (Post 11066870)
My spare cash shows up the end of this month. Lots of time to have a new favorite every day.

That's why I set my goal on an expensive one. It takes so long to make the right decision, they're not all that expensive anymore. But unfortunately, there's always a new crop to fill the original price tier before I make a decision.

kvrdave 01-06-12 01:37 PM

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:lol: So true.

Well, I just ordered the LG and a ceiling mount from monoprice. The extra bulb is apparently in stock with projector people as well. Cost $5.98 to have them ship it, but at least I don't have to fill out forms, etc. $1604.98 for both delivered.

Ahhhhhh.

Spiky 01-06-12 01:49 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
See, now you are obligated to give a review to help our shopping.

kvrdave 01-06-12 03:48 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
Yeah, I will. I'm pretty stoked. Been using my PS3 (the original) for blu-ray and rarely used it because the fan sounded like an airplane engine. So I have a new one coming from Amazon as well.

Joe Schmoe 01-06-12 07:22 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 

Originally Posted by kvrdave (Post 11066254)
I considered the Optoma, and don't have any issue with rainbows, but it doesn't have lens shift, and with mine mounted on the ceiling, that is a bit of a must for me. I could keystone it to fit, but I don't like the idea of losing resolution.

I've never owned a projector but would like one. Could you briefly explain what lens shift is, why it's necessary with a ceiling mount, and what keystone is? My biggest fear is I will buy the wrong projector because I don't know everything I should consider. Thank you!

clckworang 01-06-12 09:01 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 

Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe (Post 11067313)
I've never owned a projector but would like one. Could you briefly explain what lens shift is, why it's necessary with a ceiling mount, and what keystone is? My biggest fear is I will buy the wrong projector because I don't know everything I should consider. Thank you!

If it makes you feel any better, I still don't really know what those terms mean but am really happy with my projector's performance. :p

Joe Schmoe 01-06-12 09:16 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 

Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 11067392)
If it makes you feel any better, I still don't really know what those terms mean but am really happy with my projector's performance. :p

Good to know. I'm probably overthinking the whole thing.

Spiky 01-06-12 11:42 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
You need to get a perfect square-cornered picture on the screen. These 2 things can help that happen by adjusting the shape/positioning of the picture. Lens shift does it optically, keystone does it digitally. Optical is far better, of course. Keystone generally damages the pic and the resolution. BTW, "Lens Offset" is another key term in this.

Here's the deal: A projector with no lens offset or lens shift (or keystone) would need to be placed in the exact center of the screen both vertically and horizontally. Now, that would be a horrible place to put the projector, imagine the problems with it hanging 4.5' off the ground in the middle of the room. So they generally all have offset, meaning the picture is projected through the lens at an angle so it should be positioned near the top or bottom of the screen. Shift allows it to have a range of position possibilities.

If you look at setup diagrams in manuals, they show the angles necessary. More expensive PJs generally have better options, or for the cheaper models (sub $2K), LCD tends to have more options than DLP. Not exactly sure why that is, but it means LCD is better for certain rooms.

kvrdave 01-07-12 01:13 AM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 

Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe (Post 11067313)
I've never owned a projector but would like one. Could you briefly explain what lens shift is, why it's necessary with a ceiling mount, and what keystone is? My biggest fear is I will buy the wrong projector because I don't know everything I should consider. Thank you!

Spiky pretty much nails it. I have my projector on the ceiling and it projects onto a 122" screen about 13' away. Without lens shift, the image produced would be trapezoid in shape with the bottom being wider than the top. That trapezoid is referred to as the keystone effect. With a flip of the button on the remote the projector will digitally widen out the top of the screen until you have a rectangle. But in doing that you are really stretching out the pixels at the top. You likely wouldn't notice it a great deal, but you are dropping your overall resolution.
<img src=http://htrgroup.com/images/doc_keystone_bookshelf.jpg>

Lens shift, on the other hand, has the ability to take the rectangular image that would be directly in front of a projector, and let you shift it to where you want it without any loss of resolution. Some shift both horizontally and vertically, but vertical is the most common.

<img src=http://www.projectorpages.com/images/glossery_img/projector-lens-shift.jpg>

A 100% shift would be what you see in the first vertical shift picture. The top of the true center can be shifted to the bottom. Effectively, if you could end up with 3 full screens, you'd have 100% shift. The horizontal shift in the bottom part of the picture would be 50% shift, where the left (or right) side of the true center picture can shift to the middle. So if you get room for 2 full pictures, it is a 50% shift.

The LG projector has a lens shift of +/-70%. That make sense?

kvrdave 01-07-12 01:22 AM

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Oh, and I forgot to use the coupon code "super" for $50 off. I could call, but probably won't. :lol:

Spiky 01-07-12 01:53 AM

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That picture reminds me. The screen and projector should be perpendicular to each other. The screen should be perfectly vertical and the projector perfectly horizontal. So that picture showing keystone would be a poor setup, with the projector aiming downward. That's what caused the need for keystone.

When you see all these diagrams and have people try to explain it to you, it can seem a lot more complicated than it is. It's true there are several rules to follow since the PJ must be in a certain place to project properly and you have to consider all 3 dimensions of both the screen and PJ, but if you look at them one at a time, it isn't that bad. A lot of these are pretty obvious, really:
  • Screen should be perfectly vertical, use a level.
  • PJ should be perfectly horizontal, use a level.
  • PJ must be a certain distance from the screen depending on how big the screen is, use a calculator for your model to figure out the potential zoom range you have.
  • Lens must be centered horizontally on screen, many PJs have no horizontal shift, so it must be perfectly centered. Others have a bit of shift range, but not usually very much. Note that some PJs have the lens over to one side, not in the middle. That can make the measuring a little trickier. It means the mount will not be centered on the screen.
  • Lens must be vertically within the PJs shift/offset range. Some low end DLPs have no shift at all. Their lens must be placed at a specific height in comparison to the screen, and the manual will give this info. In contrast, the Panny AExxx series has a large lens shift, you probably wouldn't even need to worry about measuring, it will fit anywhere, any room.

If you have some tight room dimensions, it is best to look at these beforehand to make sure the PJ you want will fit. The DLPs with no shift don't fit in my room, for instance. I only have a 7' ceiling, and many of them would have to be 6-10" above the screen to work. I just don't have space for that unless I want a smaller screen, which kinda defeats the purpose.

Spiky 01-07-12 01:56 AM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 

Originally Posted by kvrdave (Post 11067526)
Oh, and I forgot to use the coupon code "super" for $50 off. I could call, but probably won't. :lol:

You are not helping my wallet! -ptth-

kvrdave 01-07-12 12:37 PM

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:lol:

Joe Schmoe 01-07-12 04:47 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
Thank you, kvrdave and Spiky, for the info! Sounds like lens shift is very important. I guess that means consumers who buy projectors without it either have their projector lined up with the screen to get a perfect rectangular picture or they live with a trapezoidal-shaped picture (or with compromised resolution due to keystone). I'm a stickler for picture quality, which is why I'm thinking of selling my 73" Mits DLP 3D TV. The 1080p resolution is cut in half in 3D mode and it drives me nuts, so most likely if I were to get a projector without lens shift I'd be unhappy with the image quality. I was thinking of getting the Optoma HD33 because I already own 4 pairs of Optoma DLP-link glasses, but now I'm going to consider some higher priced DLP projectors with lens shift. Hopefully, the Optoma glasses will work with other brands of DLP projectors.

kvrdave 01-08-12 02:47 AM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 
If you are a stickler, you'd want lens shift. My first projector (not HD) didn't have it and I had to use the keystone fix. It wasn't awful, but there are so many good choices with lens shift that it is hard to imagine not getting it unless you are looking to stay under $1,000. If you go with DLP, make sure you check it out live rather than blind buy. Some people get a rainbow effect with them where they essentially see rainbows (hence the name). I could see it on my old dlp if I violently shook my head from side to side, but that was the only time. But, in general, DLP is better than LCD, in my opinion.

Joe Schmoe 01-08-12 10:31 AM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 

Originally Posted by kvrdave (Post 11068357)
If you are a stickler, you'd want lens shift. My first projector (not HD) didn't have it and I had to use the keystone fix. It wasn't awful, but there are so many good choices with lens shift that it is hard to imagine not getting it unless you are looking to stay under $1,000. If you go with DLP, make sure you check it out live rather than blind buy. Some people get a rainbow effect with them where they essentially see rainbows (hence the name). I could see it on my old dlp if I violently shook my head from side to side, but that was the only time. But, in general, DLP is better than LCD, in my opinion.

I know some people see the rainbow effect on DLP TV's. I don't (thank goodness), so I hope that means I won't see it on a DLP projector. Why do you like DLP over LCD?

I started looking at Mitsubishi's HC7800D DLP projector since I already own 4 pairs of DLP-Link glasses. It has H & V lens shift and V keystone, manual zoom and focus, 1500 ANSI and a 100,000:1 contrast ratio. Mitsubishi claims its 2D-3D conversion is better than the average conversion algorhythm, and it sells for $2,799 at Amazon. It all sounded great until I read that it uses proprietary glasses that don't come with the projector, and one pair sells for $200. What a joke! Mitsubishi doesn't sell glasses for their DLP TV's, but now they make exclusive glasses for their projector?? If Mitsubishi's glasses are the only ones that will work with the HC7800D, then I'll cross this projector off my list.

kvrdave 01-08-12 11:49 AM

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DLPs seem to get better reviews overall, so my preference to them probably just has to do with jealousy. :lol: But they tend to be more expensive, and for the $3,000 and under projector, there doesn't seem to be a real advantage. They "shine" in their black levels, which used to be a pretty big issue with LCD, but hasn't been for several years. So even though I talk big about the DLP, my last 2 have been LCD and I have been blown away by them.

I love Amazon, but make sure you check with projectorpeople.com as well. They always seem to have the lowest prices, and their customer service is absolutely outstanding. Bought all 3 projectors from them.

Joe Schmoe 01-08-12 12:49 PM

Re: Might be time to upgrade the projector. Any new developments?
 

Originally Posted by kvrdave (Post 11068522)
DLPs seem to get better reviews overall, so my preference to them probably just has to do with jealousy. :lol: But they tend to be more expensive, and for the $3,000 and under projector, there doesn't seem to be a real advantage. They "shine" in their black levels, which used to be a pretty big issue with LCD, but hasn't been for several years. So even though I talk big about the DLP, my last 2 have been LCD and I have been blown away by them.

I love Amazon, but make sure you check with projectorpeople.com as well. They always seem to have the lowest prices, and their customer service is absolutely outstanding. Bought all 3 projectors from them.

Projectorcentral.com gave the Panasonic PT-AE7000U LCD projector really high marks. Some specs:

300,000:1 contrast ratio
2,000 ANSI
4,000-5,000 hrs. lamp life
2.00:1 Intelligent Zoom with Auto Detection (automatically detects 2.35:1 material and fills a screen with that aspect ratio without buying an anamorphic lens)
comes with built-in emitter for 3D (but no glasses)
powered focus, H & V lens shift and V keystone
user can make adjustments to 3D elements like convergence and parallax
480hz LCD panels in the glasses for less crosstalk and a brighter 3D picture

They compared it to the Mitsubishi HC7800D DLP and the Epson 5010 LCD and said the Panasonic has the best black levels in a setting with average illumination, and it does the best 2D-3D conversion. Lowest price I've seen for the Panasonic is $2,975 at PowerSellerNYC. Of course, in the long run it might be cheaper to get a package deal from ProjectorPeople since I'd have to buy a screen, glasses and long HDMI cable. So many choices! So many variables!

Numanoid 01-08-12 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiky (Post 11067497)
Now, that would be a horrible place to put the projector, imagine the problems with it hanging 4.5' off the ground in the middle of the room.

I don't know why projector owners always feel the need to hang their projectors. You're right, hanging a projector so that it's 4.5' off the ground would be ridiculous. Fortunately, there's another, far easier and more sensible solution -- setting the projector on a shelf, or table of some kind.

When I lived in an apartment, I had my projector on top of a stereo component cabinet centered just behind my seating area. In my current home, I'm lucky enough to have a deep window at about 4 foot that is directly above and behind my head when sitting in my theater (the couch's back is against the wall under the window). Both setups allowed for perfect projection without having to worry about keystoning and lens shifts. Plus, if I need to adjust the projector's position or lens, or attach/detach some cabling, or clean the filter or lens, I can simply reach up and do it. No getting on a ladder or any of that nonsense. Of course, if your room layout prohibits such a thing, you'd have to go with ceiling-mounted, but I feel like every projector owner thinks it's a requirement of having a projector when there is a far simpler method that is often overlooked.

Spiky 01-08-12 04:47 PM

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DLP tends towards better sharpness at the pixel level. LCD tends towards a more film-like image. Depends on what you want. I'm not actually a fan of too much sharpness, it can look unnatural. And "film-like" probably just means "not overly sharp". But I've had both, too. They both can be great.

About RBE, it is generally worse on RPTVs than front projectors. I know I found it painful in the first DLP RPTV I saw, I had to leave the room. But I survived a year with a DLP PJ and it was only noticeable with certain scenes, or if I moved my eyes a certain way.

Of course, LCoS is generally said to beat both of those for overall pic quality...that's part of why I broke down and ordered the LG yesterday. I gotta figure out if my current mount can handle 22#.

But also, plan ahead on the positioning. It's certainly possible to do so, although I see comments all the time from people that don't. I find that a little funny, but I do own a high-tech device called a "tape measure", so maybe I'm special. As I mentioned, I have a tight fit. When I planned mine I weighed not just the lens offset and shift, but screen size and position, ceiling height, my height (so I don't hit my head), mount size/design, even speaker size and position. Worked it all out, bought a PJ with no shift at all, hooked it all up according to my measurements, and it worked beautifully.

Or just buy the AE7000 and you'll be fine. ;)


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