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Vitaforce 03-20-11 08:33 PM

VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 
How do new or mint condition prerecorded VHS tapes look on a new 46" LCD television compared to on a 15 year old 4:3 CRT 36" television? Also, is there a big difference in viewing experience on an LCD television between DVD's that came out in the early 2000's vs newer versions that are restored or remastered? If you were to buy a movie to watch on a 46" LCD TV, which would be the best value? $1 for a mint condition VHS tape version, $5 for an early release DVD, or $10 a new remastered and restored version that's anamorphic and has other buzz words lol?

Jason 03-20-11 08:52 PM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 

Originally Posted by Vitaforce (Post 10688365)
How do new or mint condition prerecorded VHS tapes look on a new 46" LCD television compared to on a 15 year old 4:3 CRT 36" television?

like shit.

Vitaforce 03-20-11 09:28 PM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 10688391)
like shit.

Thanks for the info. Is there a significant difference between older and newer (remastered and restored versions)?

Spiky 03-21-11 12:17 AM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 
Every DVD is different. Early DVDs were non-anamorphic, so they should look worse than newer editions of the same film that are anamorphic. (which is not a buzzword, it refers to the actual resolution as stored on disc) But it really depends on what they did or didn't do when making the discs. You'd have to research movie by movie. Many times the later editions are no different for video quality, just changing extras, other times they are quite superior. Sometimes they were just re-released in a new box, no change at all.

Value for quality? ....Bluray.

mrhan 03-21-11 01:47 PM

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A lot of early DVDs were also just ports of LDs so the PQ was pretty bad. VHS looks even worse; I hooked up my JVC SVHS to my 58" Panny out of curiousity and I couldn't stand watching it.

Ash Ketchum 03-21-11 03:58 PM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 

Originally Posted by Vitaforce (Post 10688365)
How do new or mint condition prerecorded VHS tapes look on a new 46" LCD television compared to on a 15 year old 4:3 CRT 36" television? Also, is there a big difference in viewing experience on an LCD television between DVD's that came out in the early 2000's vs newer versions that are restored or remastered? If you were to buy a movie to watch on a 46" LCD TV, which would be the best value? $1 for a mint condition VHS tape version, $5 for an early release DVD, or $10 a new remastered and restored version that's anamorphic and has other buzz words lol?

I keep a 13-inch CRT TV/VCR combo machine just to watch VHS tapes. Flatscreen TVs, like my 32-inch Sony Bravia (the largest size my living room can handle), are notoriously unforgiving to the VHS format. There are some VHS tapes that look great on the big set, though, but those are mostly Japanese pre-records from about 15-20 years ago, and usually of much older shows ('60s-'80s). And they're not subtitled. I teach a course on anime and a lot of the older titles I have are on VHS and I have to show them on a classroom projection system that isn't kind to the format. (And some of the clips are from things I taped off cable in the slow speed!)

As for DVDs of live-action films, I'm appalled at how badly some of the older ones look on my Sony Bravia. They looked better on the old 20-inch CRT TV that I had before the flatscreen. Facial features were generally much clearer on the old set. New anime DVDs tend to look the best on the big screen TV. Luckily, I have tons of those.

Spiky 03-21-11 07:58 PM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 
Sony Bravias do not have much in the way of a video processor, neither do most LCDs. That is part of the problem. Not that VHS would look "good" with a better processor.

Alan Smithee 03-21-11 10:47 PM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 
VHS and Beta look decent (meaning as watchable as they've ever been) on my LCD- I have them hooked through an upscaling receiver. I have a D-VHS player that upscales too, but I only use that for playing D-Theater tapes.

One of my friends had an older projection HDTV and it magnified the video noise on tapes, but that doesn't happen on my LCD.

caligulathegod 03-24-11 09:49 PM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 
I hooked my laserdisc player up and I was shocked how bad it looked. It used to be state of the art.

rw2516 04-03-11 05:42 PM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 
VHS tapes transferred to dvd in then watched upscaled will look better than a tape ever did on an analog tv. I find tapes to be almost unwatchable played on a vcr with HDTV.

Alan Smithee 04-06-11 06:56 PM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 
Not necessarily- I just transferred a bunch of someone's home movies, and playing back the DVDs I saw compression artifacts that weren't there when I watched them straight off the tapes.

Spiky 04-07-11 07:48 AM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 
It all depends on the processing. I know people think their TV is magic, but most of them really do have crappy processors, always have. And VCRs certainly don't have quality video output, beyond the JVC 9xx series.

Matt_ 07-02-11 05:37 AM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 

Originally Posted by Spiky (Post 10689651)
Sony Bravias do not have much in the way of a video processor, neither do most LCDs. That is part of the problem. Not that VHS would look "good" with a better processor.

Because VHS tapes look fine on our 27" Sony Wega HDTV CRT, what technology does it have that is lacking in the Sony LCD TVs ?

Spiky 07-02-11 07:34 AM

Re: VHS on LCD TV and Newer vs Older DVD's
 
480 resolution mode. And CRT blacks.


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