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Old 05-21-08, 02:34 PM
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Why are WS TVs 16:9 and WS monitors 16:10?

I've wondered this for quite a while. It seems a bit of an odd choice for the monitor makers to make their monitors such that if you watch a movie on it you'll still have black bars.

Any clues?
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Here's the explanation for 15:9 which is what my projector is:

Several of the latest widescreen projectors to come to market feature the classic WXGA computer resolution format, 1280x768. The HD72 is one of them. The aspect ratio of this format is 15:9. The advantage to this format is that it will display both 1280x768 and standard XGA (1024x768) computer outputs in full frame native resolution without cropping or compression. For those using these signals this is a significant advantage. If you view a lot of 768-line material you may want to have your screen cut to a 15:9 aspect ratio so you can view it full frame. With that set up, your HDTV material will be displayed in 1280x720, and there will be small black bars at the top and bottom of the image.

On the other hand, if your viewing material is HDTV, DVD, and television, you will want to use the 16:9 operating mode, which is 1280x720. In this mode, all signals that are not native 720-line are scaled to 720 format. As a side note, one additional advantage to this mode is that there are 24 lines of digital image shift up or down that provide a similar function to physical lens shift. If you choose to operate in 16:9 mode, you will want a conventional 16:9 screen. The 720-line image will fill the screen, and the extra few display lines at the top and bottom (the small black bars) will fall invisibly onto the screen masks or frame.
Something similar for 16:10:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WUXGA


The 16:10 aspect ratio (as opposed to the 16:9 used in widescreen televisions) was chosen because this aspect ratio is appropriate for displaying two full pages of text side by side.[1] It also allows viewing of 16:9 video on a computer with player controls visible. The 16:10 screen (and display device profile) also comes very close to what is considered an aesthetically pleasing, golden rectangle.

Most justified reason I could find with my googling. You generally either get 15:9 or 16:10 in the computer world.

The 16:9 ratio is an engineering compromise, not necessarily a good one from a computer-pixel-number standpoint.

http://www.tvtechnology.com/features...engineer.shtml

I run my 16:10 24" Sony FW900 CRT at 1920x1200. 2 windows next to each other are quite comfy.

I'm not sure what these "black bars" are you speak of, though. Is it the monitor bezel? Because the image is always going to have borders of some sort

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Old 05-21-08, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonkey
I'm not sure what these "black bars" are you speak of, though. Is it the monitor bezel? Because the image is always going to have borders of some sort
He means that even when watching something that is 1.78:1, you'll still have small bars at the top and bottom (since the monitor is taller than it would be if it was 16:9).

The thing I don't like about 16:10 is that if I plug in the PS3 with 1080p output, the image will get stretched, and yes, it is very noticeable. However, if I keep it at 720p output (which most games use anyway), it just cuts a little off the side and doesn't stretch it hardly at all. So that's acceptable. The next monitor I get will definitely have some sort of aspect ratio correction built in.
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Back in the early 90's Pioneer used to make 16:10 RPTVs. I've never seen one in person but it was in their catalogs.
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I heard Walmart is having a special 16:12 HDTV made for their chain of stores.

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