mseang

How will this look on my projector?

I have a Hitachi CP-RX61 Projector, with a native resolution of 1024 x 768. I am currently playing standard DVD's and would like to update to Blueray. I am curious how much of an improvement this would be. This native resolution is also the maximum resolution for 16 x 9 on this projector. It will accept the following HDTV signals over component or RGB: 720p, 1080i, 576i
No DVI.

I will upgrade to an HD TV eventually, but I am currently living overseas and would rather wait until I move back to the states.

Thanks.

Spiky

The native 16:9 resolution is 1024x576. That is around the resolution of standard PAL widescreen. Probably BD at this point would look better than DVD, but barely. The progressive nature would be the bigger improvement than the resolution.

mseang

So whatever the input, the projector will scale it down it down to 1024 x 576, so there would only be a minimal improvement over the 480p I now have?

Spiky

That's my take. Kinda depends on what you want to spend money on, and when. Might be worthwhile to some people to stop buying DVDs and start buying BDs, even if they don't get much benefit on their current TV.

hdtv00

I couldn't disagree more, basically you two are confusing two totally different things. Going from dvd quality (on ANY display) source to blu ray you would see a big difference in quality, yeah sure it will be scaled back down of course to your projectors res, but it is MUCH MUCH better going from high quality source down in res, than up in res or staying same from lesser quality source.

Basically what I'm trying to say it really is all about the SOURCE, the end res is meaningless. It's the reason the lower quality projector like the old X1's and 4805 infocus were so popular years ago, they weren't even HD, but if you're gonna sit there and tell me there was little to no difference in HD and dvd, I'd have to tell ya to lay off the crack or get your eyes checked lol.

Spiky

You and I have semantic differences, don't try to make it more than that. People are swayed by what they think they have. Some of those wonderful 4805 owners claimed they didn't need an HDTV for HD sources. Now that's some folks on crack. Or maybe they were sitting 35' away?

mseang

Thanks HD and Spiky!

The improvement will probably be minimal, but it makes sense to start investing in BD for the future instead of more standard DVDs as well.

hdtv00

semantic my ass lol, there is a night and day difference on even a 480p projector from dvd to either HD format.

And they were right, you don't but thank god its not 4 years ago and 720p projectors and higher aren't $25,000 and up.

You wanna talk about no difference in quality, upscalers are the real joke. Now thats lil to no difference there, but dvd to HD-dvd or blu ray there is a stunning difference. I bet all my gear on it.

Spiky

LOL, indeed. Why did I know you were going to bring out "night and day", the most useless phrase ever uttered in regards to electronics? Even comparing DVD's 480 to BD's 1080 on a good 1080p TV is not "night and day" to over 90% of people. That is what semantics means, look it up if you need to.

DVD is 480. The PJ's you discuss are 480. That's a pretty convenient match. HD must be downrezzed to display on them, erasing its resolution superiority.

I don't understand your vehemence that subtraction is a myth. It is real, it's like addition only in the opposite direction. 1080-480=600 lines LOST when displaying BD/HDDVD on a 480p PJ. You can't see them anymore. That is a fact.

I'll get you 100 people to judge the "night and day". Have your equipment boxed and ready. (except the PC, ugh)

hdtv00

They are night and day to everyone who knows how to setup a comparison, simple as that, but whatever I don't care enough to debate it.

Michael T Hudson

I think he is saying most consumers could not spot the difference. You are an average consumer.

hdtv00

Yeah and the average person who doesn't care don't come into AV sections of websites asking, this guy did. And he has a projector which assume means he has a well above average screen size, which only lends to what I said. I mean come on people lol, think.

So you're both telling me there would be little to no difference at all between dvd and blu ray on this projector.....that's it I'm calling for bans lol. I mean jesus the background of the image alone would be night and day due to it being blown up to projector screen size. Let alone actual detail in the main image, ugh ok I give up . Stick with dvd they're right lol.

X

I notice quite a difference between HD and DVD material and that I play on my 480i projector. I was surprised that the HD material would look that much better.

Perhaps it's because it's going through my HTPC which can better interpolate down to a 480p signal from higher-res material than it can output from standard DVD?

tonyjg

If anyone has the time and the equipment (ie - a decent digital camera) I'd love to see a 'projector picture comparison' between 576p, 720p and 1080i - from an upscaled DVD and a HD DVD (HD or Bluray) posted on here !

I'm running a Pana AE900 via an LG HDD Recorder that 'upscales' to 1080i via HDMI (native 1280 x 720) At the moment I'm just viewing (i believe) DVDs in 576p via component onto a blank wall - and the picture (around 92in) is more than adequate quality, sitting back some 3.5 metres (think that abouts about 11 or 12 foot). (I don't have a decent camera at the moment).

I'd like to see - via pics / photos - if there is any real difference in the 'quality' of the various display resolutions.

hdtv00

Then head over to AVS then , it's all been done a half million times already.

Superman07

Spiky, I think the point hdtv00 is trying to make is that even though the source will be downscaled to 480, you'll see better PQ than if you were running the same program off of a regular dvd player or upscalling player. The point being that a high resolution downscaled will retain a better picture than a lower resolution unmanipulated or enlarged.