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Old 02-26-06, 06:42 PM
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Sony XBR can't accept 1080p signal - is it THAT important?

I'm very tempted to get the Sony KDSR60XBR1 HDTV. I'm concerned that it can't accept a 1080p signal, but is that reason enough to wait for the new models (from Sony of others)? Let's assume the new PS3, or other device, has a 1080p output. How will the Sony handle and display that signal? I hear the new HD DVD and Blue Ray DVD players will output 1080p signals, so I'm a bit hesitant to take the plunge just yet.

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Old 02-27-06, 06:39 AM
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Well, there are NOT too many 1080p TV's. It will basically just downgrade the signal to 720p or 1080i. I guess it depends what you REALLY want and how much you are willing to spend. I can see Sony putting out more 1080p TV's soon, to support the PS3.
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Old 02-27-06, 11:05 AM
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No, it won't downgrade, it simply won't recognize it and you will get nothing. At least if it works like other TVs. If you buy a BD player with 1080p output, you'd have to set it to a different output to match these TVs, 1080i no doubt.

There aren't that many that can accept 1080p, yet. Only Sony's top TV can, the Qualia 004, not even the Qualia 006. I think Mits promised this year's models would be able to handle 1080p. Just haven't checked for certain.
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Yeah, my mistake...downgrade was the incorrect wording. You would have to choose the different setting, as Spiky said.

I guess it depends what you want to spend also. A 1080p MIGHT be the better choice if you plan to invest in HD-DVD/Blu-Ray. I know CostCo sells a 1080p Mits and Samsung and a few others.
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Old 02-27-06, 11:49 AM
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In a review on the Sony in Home Theatre Magazine, they mentioned that the reason it does not accept a 1080p signal is due to the fact the copy protection has not been worked out for 1080p sources (at the time they designed the TV). I would assume the future versions would be able to accept a 1080p signal.
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Old 02-27-06, 12:08 PM
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Considering their $25k Qualia projector can accept a 1080p signal, and their CRT projectors have been able to for many years, that sounds like BS to me.
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Actually...from what I've read none of them can accept the signal even though they claim to be 1080p.
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Old 02-27-06, 12:16 PM
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Actually...from what I've read none of them can accept the signal even though they claim to be 1080p.
I believe that there are a few sets that will accept 1080p. Some of the HP plasmas will accept 1080p. The new samsung DLPs will accept 1080p, but only through the vga input (which is, of course, useless on account of its apparent lack of HDCP). The Sony Ruby (sometimes called the Baby Qualia as it only costs 10k) will also accept 1080p.
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An owner's discussion of the 004 claimed it could accept 1080p, but the 006 could not. Actually, a couple such discussions. Also, discussions about the G90 said the same thing. That's all I know, can't afford to try them out myself.
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Originally Posted by Spiky
An owner's discussion of the 004 claimed it could accept 1080p, but the 006 could not. Actually, a couple such discussions. Also, discussions about the G90 said the same thing. That's all I know, can't afford to try them out myself.
I think that's right, although I think the 004 needs an upgrade to be 1080p capable. The 006 is Qualia's take on the RPTV (basically the first SXRD Sony made) and does not accept 1080p as far as I know. The Ruby projector does take 1080p and is, by some, considered a much better value than the Qualia (the ruby is available for ~8k and the Qualia is 20k+)
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Old 02-27-06, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulNB
I'm very tempted to get the Sony KDSR60XBR1 HDTV. I'm concerned that it can't accept a 1080p signal, but is that reason enough to wait for the new models (from Sony of others)? Let's assume the new PS3, or other device, has a 1080p output. How will the Sony handle and display that signal? I hear the new HD DVD and Blue Ray DVD players will output 1080p signals, so I'm a bit hesitant to take the plunge just yet.

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If your concerned about getting a 1080p signal maybe you should wait for the 2006 SXRD's in the summer or fall I've read they will accept 1080p.
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Originally Posted by BobDole42
I think that's right, although I think the 004 needs an upgrade to be 1080p capable. The 006 is Qualia's take on the RPTV (basically the first SXRD Sony made) and does not accept 1080p as far as I know. The Ruby projector does take 1080p and is, by some, considered a much better value than the Qualia (the ruby is available for ~8k and the Qualia is 20k+)
1080p upgrade for the Qualia 004 is 3K. I think they do some panel work as well. Reason being, as you said, the Qualia line still holds quite a premium over the Ruby. Better Lens, parts ect ...

I'm not sure about the 006 and 1080p.

The good news for us in front projection land is that the new Ruby is already being found for 20-25% off list price. Hopefully LCD/DLP will bring affordable 1080p soon without the 1K bulb price.
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The new 58" and 65" HP DLP sets can accept native and compressed 1080p through HDMI at 24/30/60FPS according to their specs.
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