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Tarantino 11-10-09 11:18 AM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 
DD has been going downhill for years. This "sale" is just the nail in the coffin.

Viper187 11-10-09 11:30 AM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by badlieut (Post 9827248)
Well, I'm very interested in Garry Shandlings Show, which at the current price of 81.18 at DD, is a steal (the have had it priced that way since preorder status). Amazon has it for 139.99. I was hoping for the 25% sale to reduce it further (but I bet it would've been bumped up in price), but oh well. I may still order it.

It's pissing me off some prices are so much different between the two sites. I'd like to get Mysterious Cities of Gold sometime. It's $49 at DD, but it's $80 at Amazon. It's been that way for months, so it's no sale. Has anyone ever asked Amazon to match DD?

reverie 11-10-09 12:03 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by brianluvdvd (Post 9825795)
Funny thing is, I just got my final dvd in today from the last 25% off sale. Yep, it took that long to complete my order.

I'm still waiting for my last item (MST3K vol. 7) to come off of "backorder" status! It's pretty ridiculous.

Classic Films 11-10-09 12:15 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 
Many people on this forum have been complaining about the 20% to 25 off sale for years. Complaints about prices going up right before the sale. Complaints that the prices didn't seem that great because others like Amazon were having sales with better prices. People have also said how much less they were buying during the 25% off sale because the prices didn't seem that good. People also mentioned that the thread(s) listing the bargains found were also smaller than in previous years. I have no doubt sales have gone down and it just didn't pay for DD to have the sale. This new sale is very straight forward. 40% off list price. No more wondering if you should buy now or wait until the sale starts.
No more wondering if the price will increase before the sale. For them no more calls about how someone bought the DVD yesterday but now the price is cheaper. We know what today's prices are of the DVDs we want now. We know what the price will be during the sale. If they are not cheap enough we won't buy them. The same thing happened during the 25% off sale. If the price was cheaper elsewhere even after the 25% off we bought it elsewhere. This new sales allows us to make informed decisions. In my case I will probably be buying more CD box sets during the sale as some of the prices should be quite good.

marald 11-10-09 12:18 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by reverie (Post 9827365)
I'm still waiting for my last item (MST3K vol. 7) to come off of "backorder" status! It's pretty ridiculous.

I think you may be waiting forever. Looks like that title is oop.

e-rock 11-10-09 12:19 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 
I'm out. : (

All things considered with their recent "non-sale" they have been pretty damn good to me over the years. I truly look forward to these sales and save up $$ to make the big buy every six months or so. I can't justify the spending now.

I'm going to try to wait it out and try my luck in the used bins for the things I want.

Thanks for the memories DD.

Edubble 11-10-09 12:58 PM

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I too appreciate what DD has done in the past. I will have to wait and see what kinds of deals I can find over the next month. This sale just does not give me the best deal on most things on my wishlist. Thanks again for the past deals DD.

badlieut 11-10-09 01:19 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by Viper187 (Post 9827274)
It's pissing me off some prices are so much different between the two sites. I'd like to get Mysterious Cities of Gold sometime. It's $49 at DD, but it's $80 at Amazon. It's been that way for months, so it's no sale. Has anyone ever asked Amazon to match DD?

I sent an email with a link to the DD price for Garry Shandling. We'll see what happens but I doubt anything will come of it.

bsmith 11-10-09 01:24 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by Paul_SD (Post 9827236)
If anyone from DD is reading this, I just want to thank you for MANY years of good sales. Nothing lasts forever, and some of us do realize that these sales were not likely- in and of themselves- a good revenue generator for you.
I always assumed they were a loss leader intended to build awareness/market share for sales during the rest of the year.
No company is going to prosper cutting their margins so thin twice a year, just so the people that only shop there twice a year can get a bargain they feel they have become entitled to.
I'm surprised and disappointed to read so many "f**K them, what have they done for me lately" posts here. More proof of how spoiled we are as a culture I guess.

My 'want list' is down to about 4 things right now. That's partly because I've loaded up on so much crap in previous sales that I still haven't watched, and partly because studios slammed the brakes on releasing the kinds of things I care about. In any case, after all the addition and subtraction is done, DD will still be cheaper for these things than anywhere else. Will they be as cheap as they would have been last year? No, but so what? The point is, These are titles I want, and I want to try to get the best bargain I can with them. And that will still be with DD.

I agree completely.

bsmith 11-10-09 01:26 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 9827251)
DD has been going downhill for years. This "sale" is just the nail in the coffin.

If going down hill means they will still provide better deals then Best Buy, Borders, and B&N; and be competitive with Amazon and Walmart, then that is a variation on going down hill that I can continue to deal with.

Silverscreenvid 11-10-09 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryKILL (Post 9826466)
Hopefully DD will realize they've got a loyal customer base because of the semi annual sales. They are shooting themselves in the foot by not continuing to offer them.

A "loyal fan base" that only shops during rock bottom sales is not the sort of fan base that a retailer is most concerned about keeping.

Considering normal street prices on a lot of items, 40% offf MSRP will usually translate to 5-10% off their usual price, less on items that are heavily discounted due to high competition among retailers, more on light selling items that rarely get discounted.

One problem a retailer faces is if customers expect too many sales, they won't buy anything at other times of the year. Sometimes, retailers have to "retrain" customers into looking at their prices in a different light.

reverie 11-10-09 02:14 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by marald (Post 9827398)
I think you may be waiting forever. Looks like that title is oop.

Well, that kinda really sucks. :( I've been looking forward to that for awhile. As slow as DD is, they still have it up for purchase even!

hilts 11-10-09 02:35 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by Silverscreenvid (Post 9827638)
A "loyal fan base" that only shops during rock bottom sales is not the sort of fan base that a retailer is most concerned about keeping.

Considering normal street prices on a lot of items, 40% offf MSRP will usually translate to 5-10% off their usual price, less on items that are heavily discounted due to high competition among retailers, more on light selling items that rarely get discounted.

One problem a retailer faces is if customers expect too many sales, they won't buy anything at other times of the year. Sometimes, retailers have to "retrain" customers into looking at their prices in a different light.

Good point. Nothing says they will never have another sale, just not the kind of sale we've gotten used to. I've never had any problems with DD and I'll probably be buying a few things with this sale.

MrE 11-10-09 02:40 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 
DD's best deals were never during their sales but during the intermittent offers throughout the year -- which, admittedly are/were great for those items that never went on sale. For those, 40% off retail will definitely get me in the proverbial door to, at the very least, compare prices.

statcat 11-10-09 03:07 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 
wow I'm sure glad I grabbed the last things I wanted during the last sale

clckworang 11-10-09 03:14 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by reverie (Post 9827710)
Well, that kinda really sucks. :( I've been looking forward to that for awhile. As slow as DD is, they still have it up for purchase even!

I actually have the same exact problem. My MST3K Vol. 7 is listed as backordered as well. I was surprised that it was listed on their website because I knew it was OOP. Why it's still there, I have no idea.

I haven't really bought much of anything at a DD sale in quite a number of years. I was broke for a few years, and then when I got back into DVD buying, the sale already wasn't what it used to be. That being said, I'll look at the prices on some of the other MST3K sets that I don't have because DD is usually cheaper on those than Amazon.

Indy24LA 11-10-09 03:57 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 
Look, DD in its prime was unstoppable and I think we can all agree it dominated the game. Maybe now it's lost a step or two and maybe it does stumbles while sliding into 2nd. But before you callously cut it, think about the veteran leadership you'll be losing and the clutch hits you might be missing out on.

30smovies 11-10-09 03:58 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by MrE (Post 9827768)
DD's best deals were never during their sales but during the intermittent offers throughout the year -- which, admittedly are/were great for those items that never went on sale. For those, 40% off retail will definitely get me in the proverbial door to, at the very least, compare prices.

I agree. Those buy one get one free sales beat the 25 percent discount considerably but then those were usually only for "popular" mainstream titles by major companies. The annual 20/25 percent sale was often the only time you could get small company releases and obscurities at a major discount.

30smovies 11-10-09 04:00 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 
Wasn't there a GREAT one or two day sale at DD just before - or after - last fall's 25 percent sale - where prices on a few hundred titles were at their lowest? Maybe we'll see that again this year. I was thinking it was on Black Friday.

Tarantino 11-10-09 07:45 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by bsmith (Post 9827566)
If going down hill means they will still provide better deals then Best Buy, Borders, and B&N; and be competitive with Amazon and Walmart, then that is a variation on going down hill that I can continue to deal with.

Hope you never have to deal with their customer service...or shipping times.

rmw650 11-10-09 08:28 PM

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However one looks at it, especially with the way the economy is and the holidays vastly approaching, this is just a stupid bonehead move on DD's part and it's nothing more than a Borders-type sale, where you can print out a 40% off coupon and take it into the store and get that amount off the MSRP. This is a bad business decision and hoping they can reverse trend on this quickly; if not, then it's Amazon and other stores for me. Pitiful!

bsmith 11-10-09 11:15 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 9828418)
Hope you never have to deal with their customer service...or shipping times.

I have as anyone has from all of these vendors. Generally speaking disks arrive to me within 5 business days, which is no different then the free shipping service I get from Amazon when I purchase over $25. Any damaged disks I have received during shipping have been replaced at no extra expense to me. I'm not really concerned about getting disks shipped any quicker, which is why I always opt for free shipping whenever I can.

In my experience, the customer service is no different then any of the others except for Amazon, which is a step above the rest. I like the fact that Amazon will ship out replacements without waiting for the originals to be received.

As far as quality of packing, again they are all a mixed bag at times from using soft packaging, bubble wrap bags, and too large of boxes with inadequate packing material allowing merchandise to slide around too much. At times Amazon will shrink warp the merchandise to a base piece of cardboard that prevents damage the best. But even they are inconsistent in this regard.

I currently have an order outstanding from Amazon that was shipped on 10/30 and has not received yet at 11/11 with no tracking information updates since the package was initially picked up for shipment. I need to inform them today, at their request, so thet replacements can be shipped. Unfortunate things can happen from any of these vendors.

Generally speaking if price is the same I will go with Amazon. Otherwise I go the cheapest, which is usually Amazon or DD. Again, I will give the nod to Amazon if the merchandise is easily prone to damage for their potentially better packaging and return service.

DD is still one of the best options for me today, as well as when I started purchasing from them many many years ago.

bsmith 11-10-09 11:39 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by rmw650 (Post 9828486)
However one looks at it, especially with the way the economy is and the holidays vastly approaching, this is just a stupid bonehead move on DD's part and it's nothing more than a Borders-type sale, where you can print out a 40% off coupon and take it into the store and get that amount off the MSRP. This is a bad business decision and hoping they can reverse trend on this quickly; if not, then it's Amazon and other stores for me. Pitiful!

From what I recall Borders generally gives you a 40% off coupon on one item most of the time. And some times only in-store which has a very limited selection. Not to forget, as most have stated this sale isn't much off of what there current pricing is on most items, which means they are generally close to 40% off at all times, unlike a Borders. This sale primarily just helps those items that rarely see good discounts.

If lowest pricing is what attracts you to a deal then you will continue purchasing from DD since according to the search tool DD has more items at the lowest price then even Amazon on a regular basis. As someone else put it, if you only shopped at DD for the big sales and are willing to move your purchases to another vendor regardless of lowest price out of spite, then you really aren't the type of customer they are concerned about keeping anyway.

Was I looking forward to the sale with wish list in hand? Absolutely. But I've never seen a vendor get so much negative backlash, even during the big sales, as DD gets. It may have actually been a smart move to get away from those sales, as someone else already posted. The bad move, imo, was to try and replace it with something less that wouldn't be able to compete. It would have been better for them to just not do a sale at all.

Personally, I will still shop for the lowest price and statistically that means I will be buying from DD in the future.

g 11-11-09 12:50 AM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 
I think if it was 50 percent off MSRP that would satisfy me. But most of the stuff I looked at would be the same price with this sale so it has little point.

Panko 11-11-09 01:34 AM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by g (Post 9828857)
I think if it was 50 percent off MSRP that would satisfy me. But most of the stuff I looked at would be the same price with this sale so it has little point.

yeah, i would've been happy with 10 or 15% off regular prices. upset that it wasn't 20/25%, of course, but i still would've saved at minimum a couple of dollars off each item. with this msrp discount i'm only saving mere pennies on most of the stuff i want.

perhaps DD will do so later? -pray-

Mosskeeto 11-11-09 02:15 AM

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For some titles these discounts are probably very good: remember how some studios (i.e. Anime) pulled their films off the site during earlier sales because they refused to absorb the extra discount.

DD does get added volume incentives/special discounts from the studios to help maintain a reasonable profit margin when they have these sales and they purchase additional material from liquidators as overstock from merchants who don't maintain the wide range of titles that DD does. Many of us have received DVDs from them that still have other B&M price tags on them like Bestbuy or Walmart.
I really doubt that they lose any money from any sale.

Josh-da-man 11-11-09 07:07 AM

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DD also hasn't very good sales in quite a while.

Last year, they had quite a few good "buy one, get one free" sales. You could get Criterions for $12-$16, the Twilight Zone boxed sets for about $20 each, Anchor Bay titles for $4, A&E boxed sets for about 70% off.

This year, nothing.

That'sAllFolks 11-11-09 07:38 AM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by Silverscreenvid (Post 9827638)
A "loyal fan base" that only shops during rock bottom sales is not the sort of fan base that a retailer is most concerned about keeping.

Considering normal street prices on a lot of items, 40% offf MSRP will usually translate to 5-10% off their usual price, less on items that are heavily discounted due to high competition among retailers, more on light selling items that rarely get discounted.

One problem a retailer faces is if customers expect too many sales, they won't buy anything at other times of the year. Sometimes, retailers have to "retrain" customers into looking at their prices in a different light.

Yes, but that "retraining" never works for internet companies. Look at 800.com, reel and a host of others. "Loyalty" may get you to buy something you were going to buy anyway, if the price is really competitive. The convenience of doing searches for a product price with multiple vendors really negates real loyalty. It's not like you walk in to B&M and see the product and buy it. FOR THE MOST PART, people (esp. DVD Talkers) buy based on price. Only if the company is shady, do people stay away.

I've only bought a few things this year. In the past, I've spent hundreds of dollars on some of their sales. Although they do have slow shipping (which doesn't bother me too much), they have always done me right with their customer service.

I've often wondered if they could somehow manage their combined shipping they might fair a bit better. I ordered 4 Midnite movies from their last sale. All shipped seperatedly. That's got to add up after a while.

Anyway, they will always be a serious contender for my business, esp. if I need a gift or single item, but these weak sales have caused me to spend my big bucks elsewhere.

ericjanderson 11-11-09 07:45 AM

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I see this as a "testing the waters" action, to see if people will still buy without deep, deep discounts. And frankly, I have enough DVD sets still in the shrink wrap to last a year, so the only thing that would entice me to buy would be prices that are spectacular. Plus I'm recording many shows from digital broadcast TV and burning them on DVD for later viewing, so that adds to the wealth of viewing material I have backlogged. With the economy in the current shape it is in, it should be a buyers market. Retailers who are not planning on offering discounts comparable to past years should expect to see sales volume diminished. I think we could call this the DeepDisappointment 40% sale.

manicsounds 11-11-09 08:40 AM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 
Or call it the ShallowDiscount Sale

calhoun07 11-11-09 12:46 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by marald (Post 9825363)
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2769/ddsale.jpg

Just got an order from deepdiscount and this sale flyer was included.

I was excited until I noticed the fine print.

Looks like their regular sale's are over. Not much of a deal this way.

(flyer is actually bright orange my scanner is crap apparently)

Why is it whenever Deep Discount does a massive sale like this there's always somebody surprised that all the other sales end before the new one begins?

old-boo-radley 11-11-09 12:51 PM

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I don't know about you guys, but their sale enticed me to buy crap I didn't even need. In particular one year I placed a whole $300 order I just shook my head about afterward. So, let's not forgot how much money DD is going to lose not just from the regular sale for essential items we always were going to get, but from stuff we got just because it's cheap. I think this one is really going to bomb.

twinstar 11-11-09 12:53 PM

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Have to admit I'm disappointed as well. I passed up other sales on titles I wanted in anticipation of DD's semi-annual sales even though I may have got them at a better prices elsewhere at different times of the year; partly for the convenience of one-stop shopping and partly out of my mentality that it's ok/fun to splurge on DVD's twice a year.

I may pick up a couple of dvd's which may come out cheaper than Amazon's price considering the free shipping under $25, but I won't be splurging on hundreds of dollars worth of dvd's like I usually do. The big 20-25% sale would get me into a shopping frenzy where I would buy titles that I probably wouldn't buy if it wasn't for the "deep discount." With this sale, it will only be bare "essentials" which in this economy, might be a good thing for me.

rmw650 11-11-09 12:55 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 
I love their ads on their webiste when they mention "Why pay such and such" if you can get it for their price and yet, they're providing this sale with MSRP prices intertwined within the purchase. Brilliant move Deep Discount! They deserve, in my opinion now, to be ripped for staging something like this and you'd think they would have done their research BEFORE even placing such an ad for anyone to see.

marald 11-11-09 01:01 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by calhoun07 (Post 9829752)
Why is it whenever Deep Discount does a massive sale like this there's always somebody surprised that all the other sales end before the new one begins?

I don't know if your referring to me, but I wasn't referring to their current sales being over. I was talking about their 20%-25% sales being over.

Silverscreenvid 11-11-09 01:16 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 
The people who are posting in this thread are NOT typical shoppers. We usually purchase considerably more titles but we are also considerably more disciplined about when and where we purchase.

For most people, a broad based "sale" a month before Christmas gives them an opportunity to buy their Christmas presents at somewhat of a savings over B&M stores without having to pay shipping or sales tax. Unless Amazon does something crazy, I predict DD will do fairly well. I've bought a bunch of Christmas presents for out-of-town relatives with them because I can get free shipping on a single item going to someone in another state. That's worth a good bit to me. I'll look at their prices and may do it again this time around.

It's amazing that year in and year out, DD tends to have more items on sale at better prices more often than anyone else (including Amazon) yet they get far more criticism than anyone else on this board.

marald 11-11-09 01:49 PM

Re: DeepDiscount 40% Off MSRP Sale 11/13/09-11/29/09
 

Originally Posted by Silverscreenvid (Post 9829841)

It's amazing that year in and year out, DD tends to have more items on sale at better prices more often than anyone else (including Amazon) yet they get far more criticism than anyone else on this board.


I agree. I've always wondered why so many dvdtalkers seem to hate Deepdiscount and love Amazon so much. I actually have faster free shipping with Deepdiscount than with Amazon's free shipping. I think Amazon's cs is alot better than DD's though. I don't think Deepdiscount's prices are nearly as good as they used to be but I go where I can get the best deal, be it Amazon, Deepdiscount, or wherever. I plan to buy a few things from DD I was going to buy anyway, that will save me a few dollars with the sale.

JamesDFarrow 11-11-09 02:16 PM

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I, for one, am waiting for the sale to start. I have money burning a hole in my pocket. By Friday it will be in my shoe. LOL!

James :)

old-boo-radley 11-11-09 02:29 PM

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Of course we're not typical shoppers, but come on guys, not even typical shoppers will be enticed by a "Come and check out our jacked up/same prices on over 100,000 DVDs!" sale. Everyone thought the consumer was really dumb, and it's true to an extent, but with the economy now, people do compare more than ever. I don't know of anyone who just drops items in a cart and puts an order in without shopping around at least a bit.

I'm not saying people weren't crazy for dissing them for rock bottom prices on their 20-25% sale, I agree with everyone there, but this is barely a sale, especially for their alienated international customer base.

To me, the worst part of not having this sale is that a big tradition has ended. My buddy and I would literally drop everything at the announcement of the sale and scan their entire horror DVD catalogue and plan out our orders and give each other advice on how to round out our orders and take into account OOP items and all that. It was fun, it was gluttonous and it was an experience every time.

meddle72 11-11-09 03:05 PM

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The four items I was looking at were around 15 to 20 % off suggested retail price. Is this 40% off all DVD's and BluRay's or just up to 40% off?


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