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fujishig 07-10-18 09:53 PM

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oh I love the old ads, that was a huge part of the appeal to whatever company put out those dvd roms full of pdfs of old comics complete with ads. I actually love going through old video game and comic magazines.

Brian Hibbs, after a kind of long hiatus, wrote another Tilting at Windmills article and focused it on this Walmart initiative. I guess I didn't realize how much blowback there was in the retailer community, which when combined with what Phantom Stranger is saying about the Batman issue, is really sad to me because DC really seemed to be turning a corner.

http://www.comicsbeat.com/tilting-at...ntent-and-ala/

It's worth reading but I'll paste the part where he details why he doesn't think it will really bring in new customers, and this is before all the collectors swooped in and bought them all anyway.


I particularly think that because this project seems unlikely to me to actually create new Direct Market readers. First and foremost because Walmart has been trying to sell comic magazines to Walmart customers for years, to very little success. This seems inherent to the combination of Walmart’s store layouts, the natural tendency of the Walmart customer to be a “value” customer, and the lack of store training and maintenance on the category. None of these things are likely to change especially with this new initiative, so it’s hard to see how the results change either.

Even if you take the most possible rosy prediction of customer creation, I think that selling someone a 100-pages-for-$5 package as an intro to a 22-pages-for-$4 package essentially is incredibly unlikely to work as a conversion device.

Trevor 07-10-18 11:31 PM

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My LCBS said they heard from DC that the books aren’t meant for new readers. Not sure where that was said or how it makes any sense, but figured I’d pass it along. The employees there weren’t at all upset about these books or the Batman wedding thing.

I’ve decided I’m out on buying future issues. I pretty much own all the stuff they reprint, and the future collections will be a cheaper way to get the new material.

PhantomStranger 07-11-18 03:39 PM

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I think it's a worthwhile experiment by DC, better than prior recent attempts by the big two to break into Walmart's distribution.

If it gets even 10,000 new readers exposed to comics across the country, the gimmick is worth it. While all of us grew up with some passing exposure to comic books, modern kids just don't come across comic books in "the wild" unless they happen to have an older relative that is a collector or reader.

A five-year-old is still impressed by the sharp colors and bright costumes of a comic book cover, even today. Maybe DC and Marvel need to get into K-6 educational books...

fujishig 07-11-18 03:57 PM

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That's the thing, though, with superheroes so popular, kids have a lot of avenues into reading about superheroes. The "I can read" and "Little Golden Books" type of books have lots of superheroes in them, and there are lots of other cool books for kids. They're not exactly comic books, of course. But have you ever tried to read a modern superhero comic book to a five year old?

brayzie 07-11-18 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 13369560)
My LCBS said they heard from DC that the books aren’t meant for new readers. Not sure where that was said or how it makes any sense, but figured I’d pass it along. The employees there weren’t at all upset about these books or the Batman wedding thing.

I find that hard to believe. Why would regular readers pick up a new comic featuring reprinted stories they probably already read?



Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 13369961)
I think it's a worthwhile experiment by DC, better than prior recent attempts by the big two to break into Walmart's distribution.

Agree. Anything that gets comics back into the mainstream.


If it gets even 10,000 new readers exposed to comics across the country, the gimmick is worth it. While all of us grew up with some passing exposure to comic books, modern kids just don't come across comic books in "the wild" unless they happen to have an older relative that is a collector or reader.
Yeah, finding comics "in the wild" was my first exposure to comics too.
I took my little brothers to the comic shop but they're just not that into it. It's like they see it as an older person's hobby. I see some parents taking their kids into the shop too, to get them into comics and you can tell the kids don't want to be there.


A five-year-old is still impressed by the sharp colors and bright costumes of a comic book cover, even today. Maybe DC and Marvel need to get into K-6 educational books...
Are they?
I see 4 year olds in shopping carts playing with iPhones. I think printed material is just not that interesting to them.

majorjoe23 07-11-18 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 13369961)
I think it's a worthwhile experiment by DC, better than prior recent attempts by the big two to break into Walmart's distribution.

If it gets even 10,000 new readers exposed to comics across the country, the gimmick is worth it. While all of us grew up with some passing exposure to comic books, modern kids just don't come across comic books in "the wild" unless they happen to have an older relative that is a collector or reader.

A five-year-old is still impressed by the sharp colors and bright costumes of a comic book cover, even today. Maybe DC and Marvel need to get into K-6 educational books...

Marvel is into educational books, I’ve seen kids with them at schools I’ve subbed at. My 6 and 3 year olds both love getting comics on free comic book day.

PhantomStranger 07-12-18 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by majorjoe23 (Post 13370125)
Marvel is into educational books, I’ve seen kids with them at schools I’ve subbed at. My 6 and 3 year olds both love getting comics on free comic book day.

I know Marvel had a hit in that market with Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. It's a completely different market largely controlled by school librarians.


Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13369982)
That's the thing, though, with superheroes so popular, kids have a lot of avenues into reading about superheroes. The "I can read" and "Little Golden Books" type of books have lots of superheroes in them, and there are lots of other cool books for kids. They're not exactly comic books, of course. But have you ever tried to read a modern superhero comic book to a five year old?

Yes, I've found the Superman and Batman Adventures adaptations, inspired by the Timmverse cartoons, work really well with young children. My experience tells me kids even today eat them up. These are continuity-light comics that focus on simple plotlines and less realistic artwork using the animated cartoons' designs. They are great "starter comics" for children unfamiliar with comic book conventions.

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fujishig 07-13-18 12:00 PM

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I have both Batman Adventures volume 1 and Superman adventures volume 1. I thought it would be great to read to my five year old but it's way too wordy. He does like the Art Baltazar books though.

Scholastic actually has a fantastic line of (non superhero) graphic novels, including the Bone color editions but also stuff like Kazu Kibuishi's Amulet and Raina Telgemeier's books.

A couple months ago DC announced separate lines targeted to young adults and middle schoolers that look fantastic. I know Superhero Girls are undergoing a change but the current version's graphic novels are also pretty good.

https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2018/0...dc-ink-dc-zoom

Red Hood 07-16-18 04:00 PM

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When is issue #2 of these Giants being released at Wal-Mart?

Trevor 07-16-18 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Hood (Post 13372984)
When is issue #2 of these Giants being released at Wal-Mart?

Two new ones every two weeks, should have been yesterday or so.

Edison 07-17-18 05:08 PM

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I need to check then.

I never did find Teen Titans Giant #1, but found the other 3. I enjoyed the Superman, and Batman books. I haven't read the JLA book yet.

PhantomStranger 07-18-18 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13371191)
I have both Batman Adventures volume 1 and Superman adventures volume 1. I thought it would be great to read to my five year old but it's way too wordy. He does like the Art Baltazar books though.

Scholastic actually has a fantastic line of (non superhero) graphic novels, including the Bone color editions but also stuff like Kazu Kibuishi's Amulet and Raina Telgemeier's books.

A couple months ago DC announced separate lines targeted to young adults and middle schoolers that look fantastic. I know Superhero Girls are undergoing a change but the current version's graphic novels are also pretty good.

https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2018/0...dc-ink-dc-zoom

It's funny this got brought up, because just this week Marvel announced they are starting an entire line aimed at children via IDW. Apparently someone in Marvel's offices doesn't want to be associated with "kid's comics" so Disney outsourced the line to a different company.

PhantomStranger 07-18-18 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Edison (Post 13373802)
I need to check then.

I never did find Teen Titans Giant #1, but found the other 3. I enjoyed the Superman, and Batman books. I haven't read the JLA book yet.

Reports indicated that Teen Titans was the hardest issue to find in the first wave.

fujishig 07-18-18 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 13374346)
It's funny this got brought up, because just this week Marvel announced they are starting an entire line aimed at children via IDW. Apparently someone in Marvel's offices doesn't want to be associated with "kid's comics" so Disney outsourced the line to a different company.

Are we talking Disney comics (and I include Big Hero 6 as Disney at this point) or actual Marvel comics published by someone else for kids? Why in the world would they outsource that?

Bob_Bobbson 07-18-18 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13374380)
Are we talking Disney comics (and I include Big Hero 6 as Disney at this point) or actual Marvel comics published by someone else for kids? Why in the world would they outsource that?

Actual Marvel comics by IDW.
I don't really understand it either.

http://media.comicbook.com/2018/07/i...n-1123093.jpeg


IDW Publishing will launch a new line of all-ages comics featuring Marvel Comics characters, the publisher announced today as part of their run up to Comic Con International in San Diego later this week.

According to a press release, the two companies will develop middle-grade comic books designed for younger readers. Featuring some of Marvel’s most popular characters, the monthly issues and trade paperback collections, published by IDW, will be available for sale at local comic book shops and book retailers across the country, expanding opportunities for the next generation of Super Heroes to experience the Marvel Universe.
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/07/...el-characters/

Edison 07-19-18 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 13374348)
Reports indicated that Teen Titans was the hardest issue to find in the first wave.

I can believe that. I checked at least 6 stores in the area for Teen Titans, and didn't find a single one. I seen on reddit where some stores supposedly got restocked, but I haven't seen that here.


Originally Posted by Red Hood (Post 13372984)
When is issue #2 of these Giants being released at Wal-Mart?

I found the DC press release which states...


... Each of the four titles – SUPERMAN GIANT, JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA GIANT, BATMAN GIANT and TEEN TITANS GIANT – will arrive in stores by July 1. Beginning in August, the Superman and Justice League titles will arrive in week one of each month, with the second pair, Batman and Teen Titans, arriving approximately two weeks later. ...
So we should see #2 of Superman/Justice league the first week of August, and #2 Batman/Teen Titans around the middle of August.

fujishig 07-19-18 03:41 PM

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So I went to Walmart for the first time in about a month, and went looking for these. They had a display box out but the new stuff was gone and it was filled with a bunch of older reprints, basically rebirth number ones stuff. They were only five bucks, but I guess they actually entered retail at 10 bucks, which is way too expensive.

Lokimok 07-26-18 03:46 PM

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These are still out there. I don't normally make $20 impulse buys, but I spotted them when I went to a self check-out & had to take a look. So much fun to see big colorful comics when you don't expect. Hopefully they'll be fun to read too. I liked that I could go in, get a gallon of milk, a loaf of bread, oh & I'll take some of them funnybooks too. I still buy an occasional action figure, but probably haven't bought a comic book in about 20 years. Don't know if this will lead anywhere...

PhantomStranger 07-29-18 01:51 PM

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I think some stores may have gotten restocks of the first issues. Venturing into a Walmart I rarely visit, they had the full assortment of #1 issues, including the Titans.

Red Hood 08-03-18 09:02 PM

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No word on issue #2s that were supposed to hit the shelves on August 1st. Some Wal-Marts have re-stocked on the 4 issue #1s but no one online has seen any second issues.

Trevor 08-03-18 09:17 PM

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Yeah, my local store restocked the number 1s. Could have sworn DC said no reprints, just upping print runs on subsequent issues. So I paid $9 for one I thought I missed to be shipped to me.

Super X 08-04-18 02:48 PM

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I visited a local Wal-Mart yesterday and they had the second issues of Superman and Justice League.

Edison 08-12-18 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Super X (Post 13383994)
I visited a local Wal-Mart yesterday and they had the second issues of Superman and Justice League.

I checked on 8/3, and the guy that stocked that merchandise was there. He only had #1 issues to restock (Teen Titans/Superman).

I went back on 8/10 though, and the #2 issues (Superman/Justice League) were out.

PhantomStranger 08-14-18 04:44 PM

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Didio gave an interview about this program on one of the comic book sites. Apparently another company versed in stocking at Walmart is handling distribution. DC doesn't have to accept returns for unsold books.

I have yet to see the second issues, though it seemed like most stores got heavy restocks of the #1s around the beginning of the month.

The Valeyard 08-14-18 08:15 PM

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I found the Second issues over the weekend. About a week behind schedule but from what I hear, most Wal-Marts stocked them this weekend. I'm guessing that means Batman and Teen Titans will be out in two weeks instead of one.

The first Wal-Mart I went to CRAMMED the new books in that back DC display pocket. Everything was damaged. I ended up picking the books up at another Wal-Mart that had 8 copies of each new issue.


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