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davidh777 01-31-12 11:06 AM

Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
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DC Announces Contents for DC Comics - The New 52 FCBD Edition

Free Comic Book Day 2012 is Saturday, May 5, but you don't have to wait four months to learn what's inside DC Comics - The New 52 Free Comic Book Day Edition.

Featuring art by legendary illustrator Jim Lee and other top talents, DC Comics - The New 52 FCBD Edition will include a new story by New York Times bestselling writer Geoff Johns.

There will also be preview material from DC Comics - The New 52 "Second Wave" titles, including Batman Incorporated, Dial H, Earth 2, G.I. Combat, The Ravagers and Worlds' Finest.

But that's not all; there are still more surprises to come. Stay tuned to for details!
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TheBang 01-31-12 05:20 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
Looking forward to Transformers 80.5

davidh777 03-02-12 11:41 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 

Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 11097274)

I didn't realize it at the time, but this is actually Star Wars Serenity--nerdgasm alert!


Publisher: DARK HORSE
(W) Zack Whedon (A) Fábio Moon, Christian Dalla Vecchia (CA) Adam Hughes, Daniel Dos Santos
(W) Zack Whedon
(A) Fábio Moon, Christian Dalla Vecchia
(C/A) Adam Hughes, Daniel Dos Santos
Han Solo and Chewbacca have a falling-out after a deal with a shady customer goes bad. When the client gets designs on the Millennium Falcon, Han and Chewie present a united front that can't be beat! "Mal" Reynolds, captain of the outlaw vessel Serenity, is no stranger to jobs gone wrong. But when the chips are down, he's able to rely on an amazing, odd, and diversely talented crew for help! Two great space epics in one issue!

JasonF 03-03-12 12:23 AM

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For my money, you are out of your mind if you have an opportunity to pick this one up and pass on it:

MOUSE GUARD, LABYRINTH AND OTHER STORIES
Original Graphic Novel Hardcover
2012 Free Comic Book Day
Retail Price: Free
Page Count: 48 pages
Format: Hardcover with no dust jacket (paper over board), 6” x 9”, full color
UPC: 811514010689 00311
Country: U.S.

Written by Jeremy Bastian, Nate Cosby, Royden Lepp, Jim McCann, Ted Naifeh and David Petersen
Illustrated by Jeremy Bastian, Chris Eliopoulos, Cory Godbey, Janet Lee, Royden Lepp and David Petersen
Cover by David Petersen

This Free Comic Book Day, Archaia offers readers the chance to experience history in the making with a FREE, gorgeous, 48-page, 6” x 9” full color hardcover original graphic novel featuring all-new material! David Petersen returns with an all-new Mouse Guard tale that’s guaranteed to tug at your heartstrings! Lose yourself once again in Jim Henson’s amazing world of Labyrinth, featuring a fantastical story from Eisner Award nominee Ted Naifeh (Courtney Crumrin) and Cory Godbey (Fraggle Rock). Get a new perspective on Jet Jones in Royden Lepp’s critically acclaimed Rust, with a short story seen through the eyes of younger brother Oswald Taylor. Jeremy Bastian’s acclaimed Cursed Pirate Girl hits the high seas in this whimsical, swashbuckling tale of wonderland journeys and unimaginable dangers. Nate Cosby (Pigs) and Chris Eliopoulos (Franklin Richards) present Cow Boy, a comedy/western that tells the tale of a young bounty hunter determined to send his entire outlaw family to jail. And Jim McCann and Janet Lee follow up their Eisner Award-winning Return of the Dapper Men with an all-new short story that leads into the upcoming sequel, Time of the Dapper Men. Witness the origin of a new, major character! And…the return of 41?!

resinrats 03-04-12 05:44 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 

Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 11138080)
For my money, you are out of your mind if you have an opportunity to pick this one up and pass on it:

Only if you are into that type of story. A hardcover just to get a hardcover is pointless.

Josh-da-man 03-04-12 06:16 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
I'm in for the Serenity and Buffy books.

JasonF 03-04-12 06:50 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 

Originally Posted by resinrats (Post 11139647)
Only if you are into that type of story. A hardcover just to get a hardcover is pointless.

I agree, but i wasnt calling it out for the format, but the ontent. Note that it's not one story, it's six, from some really outstanding creators. Mouse Guard, Cursed Pirate Girl, and Dapper Men are all amazing, and given Archaia's track record, I'm sure the other stories will be just as entertaining.

davidh777 04-28-12 09:50 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
One week to go (happens the day after The Avengers opens, if that helps :))

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SethDLH 04-28-12 11:36 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
Considering hitting up a local shop really early to get a bag full of a bunch of free stuff and tickets to the Avengers movie.

Groucho 04-28-12 11:46 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
Will any of these be available on Comixology?

davidh777 04-28-12 11:56 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11209751)
Will any of these be available on Comixology?

I've seen a lot of FCBD issues there so probably eventually. I doubt there'll be there right away, though, since the objective of the event is to promote LCS.

Vlyger 05-04-12 11:57 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
Tomorrow is the day.

fujishig 05-04-12 12:06 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
I got my FCBD stuff early, and I was just about to post that the Mouseguard one is awesome, but I see that it's already been posted... :)

Trevor 05-04-12 01:38 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
My local store only gives out two free comics per person. Anyone know an online way to order more or even all of them?

BobO'Link 05-04-12 02:40 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 11218843)
My local store only gives out two free comics per person. Anyone know an online way to order more or even all of them?

Have you asked your local store about purchasing additional titles? They get them *very* inexpensively and I'd think they would be willing to actually sell them to you. Of course you might have to wait until the end of the day and settle for the dregs - but it might be worth asking anyway.

The store here limits you to 4 *but* for every $10 in purchases you can add an additional 4. They also discount shelf titles, TPB, figures, clicks, games, just about everything in the store to some extent. I know that my currently planned purchase will get me an additional 8 titles for sure and I'll be taking both grand kids (of course they'll get what they want). I'm just hoping I get there early enough for a copy of Mouse Guard. I already know it's *very* limited here but I really don't want to stand around waiting for the store to open.

Strapped4Cash 05-04-12 04:52 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 11218843)
My local store only gives out two free comics per person. Anyone know an online way to order more or even all of them?

Midtown seems to suggest that they'll have some available online:

Midtown Comics celebrates Free Comic Book Day, on Saturday, May 5th, by offering free new comics including every title from every publisher participating in this event. Some of the hottest titles from Marvel Comics, DC Comics, Dark Horse and Image Comics will be available with no purchase required, in-store and online while supplies last.

Though I would assume that they'd charge shipping. Here's the link:

http://blog.midtowncomics.com/free-c...n-comics/5297/

Trevor 05-04-12 05:33 PM

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^ Thanks all! I ended up finding that Mile High was having a deal where if you order $210 worth of stuff you get all 42 of the 2012 FCBD books free. They normally have pretty high prices on stuff, but have a 50% off HC and TPB sale this weekend, and I was able to find a bunch of stuff.

This saves me from what I would have done: spend the entire day and $50 worth of gas driving around to every DC area comic store trying to score one of everything.

I'll go to my two local stores and enjoy whatever they have. Last year I met Marc Hempel and Mark Wheately.

Supermallet 05-04-12 11:03 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
How are people getting the comics early?

The Valeyard 05-04-12 11:35 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
The comics for FCBD arrived over the past two to three weeks. The stores have had them for awhile. I guess if you're chummy, you can grab early copies.

My regular shop is only giving out 2 titles per person. There's a store in Pasadena that let's you have 10 so I'll probably hit there before heading to 4 Color Fantasies in Rancho to join the festivities there.

Just to note - I hate stores that stamp their comics with the name and address of the store. I know that's why that blank space is there but as a neurotic collector, I can't deal with that. There's only a few stores (that I know of) in LA that don't stamp their comics. 4 Color Fantasies stamps which is why I'll only partake in their free hot dogs and nachos.

Strapped4Cash 05-05-12 12:38 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 

Originally Posted by The Valeyard (Post 11219536)
The comics for FCBD arrived over the past two to three weeks. The stores have had them for awhile. I guess if you're chummy, you can grab early copies.

Yeah, it depends on the store, but I've had situations where, since I spent so much every month, the store had me write up a FCBD pull list. They ordered all the titles on it, even the ones that they weren't planning on ordering at all and pulled them all as they came in. It was no problem if I wanted to get them early.

Some people might say that that was unfair, but since I let them know when the pre-order lists came out (January or February) then they wound up ordering stuff like Mouse Guard or Muppets that they wouldn't have ordered unless I'd asked. I got one copy of each, but that meant that there were nine other copies that were available for other people.

Supermallet 05-05-12 12:43 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
Humanoids has released their free comic online: http://www.humanoids.com/ibd/21

SethDLH 05-05-12 05:08 AM

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Getting ready to leave with a friend and wait for a couple hours. The store we're going to has blow out deals and sidewalk sales and gives over $100 worth of free merch to the first 50 people in line. Fingers crossed.

Josh-da-man 05-05-12 05:31 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 

Originally Posted by The Valeyard (Post 11219536)
The comics for FCBD arrived over the past two to three weeks. The stores have had them for awhile. I guess if you're chummy, you can grab early copies.

If that's the case, I'm surprised that the scanners haven't gotten ahold of them yet.

I've read rumors that some of the more prolific scanners work in stores or have access to their stock and scan the comics on Tuesdays when the stores get them and then flood them online the next day.

exharrison 05-05-12 08:59 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 11219168)
^ Thanks all! I ended up finding that Mile High was having a deal where if you order $210 worth of stuff you get all 42 of the 2012 FCBD books free. They normally have pretty high prices on stuff, but have a 50% off HC and TPB sale this weekend, and I was able to find a bunch of stuff.

This saves me from what I would have done: spend the entire day and $50 worth of gas driving around to every DC area comic store trying to score one of everything.

I'll go to my two local stores and enjoy whatever they have. Last year I met Marc Hempel and Mark Wheately.

How did you add those FCBD comics to your order? I don't see anything on the product pages of any of those for adding to the order and their e-mail doesn't seem to specify the process. Just that it has to be put in by Saturday. (Or did they mean before Saturday and not before the end of Saturday?)

starman9000 05-05-12 09:50 AM

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Got to my store a little after opening with my daughter, they didn't have much for restrictions but we were able to get what we wanted, even though we were at the end of a pretty big line. I forgot there was a Dune one I was looking for, so I might go to a different one later to see.

My daughter was being very selective and the owner was encouraging her to take everything because it was free. It was nice to see quite a lot of other little kids there too.

N8 Storm 05-05-12 11:44 AM

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There was no Voltron Force comic at the comic store I went to and that was the one I wanted the most.

SethDLH 05-05-12 01:27 PM

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Store I went to was basically hell on Earth. Got there around 6:30 hoping to be one of the first 50 in line (we weren't by quite a bit... apparently people started lining up at 11pm) to get a bunch of free stuff from the store itself. When the store opened at 9 it took forever to get up to the actual store because on top of people selecting their 6 free comics the store also set out a ton of random back issues that people could take 50 of. While I fully support free stuff this was like a cattle line of people picking and choosing 56 free books and no way around it to get to the rest of the deals in the store and outside the store. The boxes that you could take 50 books out of really should have been away from the regular FCBD stuff to help the lines move. I got 6 titles from the day's selection and a few good deals on used dvds but it wasn't worth the hassle.

If anyone needs a Mouseguard or whatever it's called I have an extra I picked up for my little cousins but they got to go to their local store.

Supermallet 05-05-12 01:40 PM

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My LCS is pretty tiny and not nearly as well known as the big comic book stores in LA, so there were about 15 people total milling about. The only limit they had was one copy per title per person, so I picked up Buffy, Serenity, DC, and Avengers. They didn't have the Mouseguard book, sadly. Also purchased the deluxe edition of Black Orchid that I didn't even realize had come out.

Trevor 05-05-12 03:19 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 

Originally Posted by exharrison (Post 11219727)
How did you add those FCBD comics to your order? I don't see anything on the product pages of any of those for adding to the order and their e-mail doesn't seem to specify the process. Just that it has to be put in by Saturday. (Or did they mean before Saturday and not before the end of Saturday?)

I couldn't figure out how to do it either, so just put a note in the notes section of the order page.

Seemed iffy on getting all 42 if I waited past Friday.

The Valeyard 05-05-12 06:41 PM

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Today's first stop was Comic Factory in Pasadena. Was in line for about 45 minutes and shuffled in at 11. Their limit was actually 7, not 10 like last year. So I picked up the stuff I figured would be harder to get later in the day (like the Mousegard hardcover). They had some books from last year that had no limits so I picked up stuff I missed out on. I also got the Thor Heroclix there. It started getting crowded within a half hour so I left.

Next stop was my regular shop in Studio City (DJ's Universal Comics). 2 titles per person unless you were a kid then you had run of the store. They also had selected Trades 1 free per person (Picked up The Stand: American Nightmares hardcover). There were other free tchotchkes like posters and lanyards and stuff. Best part of the deal was all back issues were $1. I stocked up and left after an hour.

Finally drove by 4 Color Fantasies in Rancho Cucamonga but it was swamped. There was an hour long line just to get into the place so I left. I just wanted free hot dogs and nachos anyways. My day was done.

BobO'Link 05-05-12 08:20 PM

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The store here is fairly small but had *lots* of titles (I believe the manager indicated last week they had ordered some of almost every title). We arrived a few minutes before opening, milled around with the other 20 or so people outside (mostly Wednesday "regulars"), and were among the first in the door. There was no "official" line to get in the store. I picked up Mouse Guard, Serenity, Atomic Robo, Dinosaurs vs. Aliens, Witchblade, Finding Gossamyr, Donald Duck Family, and both of the DC The New 52 comics as well as 4 of the Bone TPBs at 40% off. Both grand kids picked up a few kid oriented books, and a Legion of Super-Heroes Flight Ring. There was a pretty good crowd 5-10 minutes after opening and many were taking advantage of the various sales. Most talk was about The Avengers with several indicating they'd seen it yesterday and were going again this afternoon. We hung around about a half hour talking and left to do other errands. I was a bit surprised to see that there were still 4-5 copies of Mouse Guard on the table when we left. I really thought it'd be one of the first to go as it's gotten some positive buzz about the stories and they only had 10 copies available.

Nick Danger 05-05-12 09:41 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
Who released the Barnaby and Mr. O'Malley? Those strips have been out of print for 25 years.

I was working at B. Daltons, and a regular customer ordered all six volumes. I've wished that I did too, because those mass-market paperbacks were going for $100 apiece the last time I looked.

Josh-da-man 05-05-12 11:03 PM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 

Originally Posted by starman9000 (Post 11219760)
I forgot there was a Dune one I was looking for, so I might go to a different one later to see.

Don't bother looking for it, it doesn't exist.

Boom! did solicit a "Dune" comic for FCBD but canceled it and replaced it with "Hypernaturals."

Details (such as they are) are here: http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/c...rnaturals.html

starman9000 05-06-12 06:24 AM

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Thanks. Glad I didn't miss it then. I didn't do my homework very well and am a little annoyed I didn't grab Dinosaurs vs Aliens and 2000 AD.

Travis McClain 05-08-12 03:21 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
I wasn't able to make it to my LCS, but a generous friend of mine snagged the five issues I most wanted on my behalf:

DC Comics - The New 52 FCBD Special Edition #1
I was entirely oblivious to the appearances of Pandora in the four #1s I've read, but thanks to online discussions she came to my attention regardless. I'll be honest: I have little interest in the forthcoming "Trinity War." Despite how admittedly neat it was to have a four-page foldout at the end, it still amounts to a rehash of the everyone-has-to-band-together-to-fight-everyone-because-everything-is-really-at-stake-no-we-mean-it-this-time mess that bores the hell out of me. Still, I found myself quickly interested in Pandora herself and I may take a look at it just to see if there's enough character stuff about her to make it worth my while.

As for whether the "Trinity War" is just a gimmick designed to make yet more changes to the DCU timeline, I frankly don't care. I just want Batgirl and Detective Comics to continue rocking my socks off each month and I want Batwoman to consistently play to its potential. As long as the stories are interesting, I don't much care what continuity is in place.

The Transformers: ReGeneration One #80.5
I often point out the debt I owe to the original Marvel Comics series (along with Larry Hama's G.I. Joe) for expanding my vocabulary and introducing me to comics. I originally was going to pass on this since I have little interest in IDW content since it all seems like glorified fanfic to me, but when I learned this was going to be a direct continuation of that original series, my interest went way up. I admit: I got a thrill just looking at the collage on page 1 seeing Optimus Prime's decapitated head connected to wires, Ratbat terrorize Buster, Grimlock with the crown and the Megatron/Ratchet meld. I remember each of those events happening for the first time. This was a nice recap/intro and while I don't know that I'll become a regular reader of this series, it definitely spoke to five year old Travis in a way no other Transformers comic since Marvel's run ended has managed to do.

Atomic Robo / NeoZoic / Bonnie Lass Free Comic Book Day 2012
On a whim, I picked up last year's Atomic Robo freebie and found I absolutely loved it. The humor is very reminiscent of old school Cartoon Network fare like Dexter's Laboratory. I wasn't a regular viewer of that show, but I saw enough of it to have been entertained. If the goal of FCBD is to get people to start reading things they didn't used to read, they've succeeded because the next time I go to my LCS (which I think is going to be tomorrow), I plan on hunting down some Atomic Robo.

NeoZoic and Bonnie Lass were less appealing to me. Regarding the former, I'm just not that big on dinosaurs, my love for Jurassic Park and the Dinobots notwithstanding. Also, for just a few pages, there was way too much exposition about events that mean nothing to me. Bonnie Lass was more accessible and entertaining, but for that kind of story, I'm more apt to finish tracking down the Danger Girl comics I still haven't read.

Burt Ward: Boy Wonder/Wrath of the Titans Classic
Being a fan of the old Batman series, and already having last year's The Misadventures of Adam West, I naturally had to have the Burt Ward comic. It's pretty corny and very heavy on the Bat-shtick, which I expected after having slogged through Ward's monotonous memoir three years ago. I'm not likely to pick up the series itself, but I might look at a collected edition if it's cheap enough or if I can get it through my library.

As for Wrath of the Titans, I'm just not into that kind of storytelling and while having the text on a page by itself opposite the illustrations is an okay design, the text needs to be much more interesting than what's here. It was the least appealing to me of all the FCBD stories I've read.

My friend also snagged Mouse Gard and Other Stories for me, but I haven't gotten to that one yet. I'll post thoughts about it when I do.

Travis McClain 05-08-12 03:21 AM

Re: Free Comic Book Day May 5, 2012
 
I wasn't able to make it to my LCS, but a generous friend of mine snagged the five issues I most wanted on my behalf:

DC Comics - The New 52 FCBD Special Edition #1
I was entirely oblivious to the appearances of Pandora in the four #1s I've read, but thanks to online discussions she came to my attention regardless. I'll be honest: I have little interest in the forthcoming "Trinity War." Despite how admittedly neat it was to have a four-page foldout at the end, it still amounts to a rehash of the everyone-has-to-band-together-to-fight-everyone-because-everything-is-really-at-stake-no-we-mean-it-this-time mess that bores the hell out of me. Still, I found myself quickly interested in Pandora herself and I may take a look at it just to see if there's enough character stuff about her to make it worth my while.

As for whether the "Trinity War" is just a gimmick designed to make yet more changes to the DCU timeline, I frankly don't care. I just want Batgirl and Detective Comics to continue rocking my socks off each month and I want Batwoman to consistently play to its potential. As long as the stories are interesting, I don't much care what continuity is in place.

The Transformers: ReGeneration One #80.5
I often point out the debt I owe to the original Marvel Comics series (along with Larry Hama's G.I. Joe) for expanding my vocabulary and introducing me to comics. I originally was going to pass on this since I have little interest in IDW content since it all seems like glorified fanfic to me, but when I learned this was going to be a direct continuation of that original series, my interest went way up. I admit: I got a thrill just looking at the collage on page 1 seeing Optimus Prime's decapitated head connected to wires, Ratbat terrorize Buster, Grimlock with the crown and the Megatron/Ratchet meld. I remember each of those events happening for the first time. This was a nice recap/intro and while I don't know that I'll become a regular reader of this series, it definitely spoke to five year old Travis in a way no other Transformers comic since Marvel's run ended has managed to do.

Atomic Robo / NeoZoic / Bonnie Lass Free Comic Book Day 2012
On a whim, I picked up last year's Atomic Robo freebie and found I absolutely loved it. The humor is very reminiscent of old school Cartoon Network fare like Dexter's Laboratory. I wasn't a regular viewer of that show, but I saw enough of it to have been entertained. If the goal of FCBD is to get people to start reading things they didn't used to read, they've succeeded because the next time I go to my LCS (which I think is going to be tomorrow), I plan on hunting down some Atomic Robo.

NeoZoic and Bonnie Lass were less appealing to me. Regarding the former, I'm just not that big on dinosaurs, my love for Jurassic Park and the Dinobots notwithstanding. Also, for just a few pages, there was way too much exposition about events that mean nothing to me. Bonnie Lass was more accessible and entertaining, but for that kind of story, I'm more apt to finish tracking down the Danger Girl comics I still haven't read.

Burt Ward: Boy Wonder/Wrath of the Titans Classic
Being a fan of the old Batman series, and already having last year's The Misadventures of Adam West, I naturally had to have the Burt Ward comic. It's pretty corny and very heavy on the Bat-shtick, which I expected after having slogged through Ward's monotonous memoir three years ago. I'm not likely to pick up the series itself, but I might look at a collected edition if it's cheap enough or if I can get it through my library.

As for Wrath of the Titans, I'm just not into that kind of storytelling and while having the text on a page by itself opposite the illustrations is an okay design, the text needs to be much more interesting than what's here. It was the least appealing to me of all the FCBD stories I've read.

My friend also snagged Mouse Gard and Other Stories for me, but I haven't gotten to that one yet. I'll post thoughts about it when I do.


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