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rocket1312 02-26-24 06:38 AM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 
What is the context for this? I thought these two were on relatively friendly terms in recent years?

For what's it worth, Rob does a pretty spot on impression of McFarlane.

stingermck 02-26-24 07:01 AM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 
I mean, he's not wrong. Todd making some shitty and questionable decisions with DC toys.

fujishig 02-26-24 07:20 PM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 

Originally Posted by stingermck (Post 14392977)
I mean, he's not wrong. Todd making some shitty and questionable decisions with DC toys.

Well this got announced/solicited today:

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Searc...mpany=1144&o=1

Yes, Rob Liefeld's Bloodwulf and Bloodstrike characters for 75 bucks a piece. I don't know when he said that about McFarlane but he has no leg to stand on in the "making toys" game.

Why So Blu? 02-26-24 07:30 PM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 
Wow, Bloodwulf and Bloodstrike bring back memories. Bloodwulf was basically Liefeld ripping off DC's Lobo and Cabbot Stone was basically a Cable rip-off. Dan Fraga used to draw Bloodstrike and was a pretty good artist, but Bloodstrike was such an X-Force/X-Men rip off.


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fujishig 02-26-24 07:34 PM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 
The funny thing about Cabbot Stone is that both he and his brother (in Brigade) were basically clones of Cable.

And the next question would be "why didn't he just clone Deadpool" but the fact of the matter is that Deadpool didn't really gain in popularity until way after Liefeld's time with him.

Josh-da-man 02-27-24 12:09 AM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14393208)
The funny thing about Cabbot Stone is that both he and his brother (in Brigade) were basically clones of Cable.

And the next question would be "why didn't he just clone Deadpool" but the fact of the matter is that Deadpool didn't really gain in popularity until way after Liefeld's time with him.

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rocket1312 02-27-24 07:27 AM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14393208)
The funny thing about Cabbot Stone is that both he and his brother (in Brigade) were basically clones of Cable.

And the next question would be "why didn't he just clone Deadpool" but the fact of the matter is that Deadpool didn't really gain in popularity until way after Liefeld's time with him.

That's a little bit of revisionist history with regards to Deadpool. He may not have been nearly as popular as he is today, but he was pretty darn popular in the beginning. The legend goes that Marvel got so much positive feedback after his first appearance that they wanted him in X-Force #1, but the issue was already in progress and he couldn't be included. So instead he was added as a trading card and his return was hyped up in X-Force #2. I think he appeared in roughly half the issues in X-Force's first year.

As for Deadpool clones, there was that one chick in Brigade that had the red body suit and dual swords. And Die Hard from Youngblood was pretty much just a palette swapped Deadpool, even if the characters otherwise didn't really have much on common.

Why So Blu? 02-27-24 10:20 AM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 
Supreme was actually fun when it started out since Liefeld only wrote that, but once Alan Moore starting writing it, it was great.

I used to also read Brigade. I met the artist that drew that - Marat Michaels at a convention - very nice guy.

The one thing I will always give credit to Image for is that they revolutionized the coloring of their books. They actually added depth and used photoshop to enhance the artwork. Marvel and DC just used flat one-shade coloring.

fujishig 02-27-24 12:02 PM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 

Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 14393308)
That's a little bit of revisionist history with regards to Deadpool. He may not have been nearly as popular as he is today, but he was pretty darn popular in the beginning. The legend goes that Marvel got so much positive feedback after his first appearance that they wanted him in X-Force #1, but the issue was already in progress and he couldn't be included. So instead he was added as a trading card and his return was hyped up in X-Force #2. I think he appeared in roughly half the issues in X-Force's first year.

As for Deadpool clones, there was that one chick in Brigade that had the red body suit and dual swords. And Die Hard from Youngblood was pretty much just a palette swapped Deadpool, even if the characters otherwise didn't really have much on common.

He aped the design but not the Spider-man like quips for whatever reason.

Why So Blu? 02-27-24 12:21 PM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 
Yeah, the Diehard character was pretty much a Deadpool clone minus being a clown.

stingermck 02-27-24 12:54 PM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14393201)
Well this got announced/solicited today:

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Searc...mpany=1144&o=1

Yes, Rob Liefeld's Bloodwulf and Bloodstrike characters for 75 bucks a piece. I don't know when he said that about McFarlane but he has no leg to stand on in the "making toys" game.

Not to defend Rob, but that's standard price for Executive Replica figures. They produce very niche figures like Rocketeer, Shi, Heavy Metal, etc.

fujishig 02-27-24 01:07 PM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 

Originally Posted by stingermck (Post 14393410)
Not to defend Rob, but that's standard price for Executive Replica figures. They produce very niche figures like Rocketeer, Shi, Heavy Metal, etc.

Right, but he licensed it out to them, so it's not like he's making affordable figures of his own designs or anything. Still not sure if the McFarlane impersonation is a good natured rib or where it actually came from.

Josh-da-man 02-28-24 03:42 AM

Re: Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
 

Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 14393400)
Yeah, the Diehard character was pretty much a Deadpool clone minus being a clown.

I never really thought of Diehard as being a Deadpool clone. I always figured he knock-off G. I. Joe's Snake Eyes. :lol:





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