Rob Liefeld - Worst comic book artist ever?
#576
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Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
WTF?!? That first one is just disturbing. The other ones, well, there's a market for that, but how the fuck did the first one get printed at all?
#577
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
I'm not sure what the print run is but I don't know anyone that actually reads the book. In fact, all these anecdotes are from long after I stopped reading, but someone mentioned it one time (I think here) and unfortunately I looked it up back then.
#578
Banned
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
Print run on Savage Dragon books is around 4000 copies.
#579
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
I remember when I was younger and was always disappointed when Sal Buscema was doing a fill-in on one of the Marvel titles I read because the way he drew faces made it look like everyone was stepping on Legos.
#580
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
I was never a fan of Larsen or his style let alone Savage Dragon. I think the only Savage Dragon title I have is that one issue Jim Lee drew when all of the founders did this crossover promotion special where each founder drew someone else's book for one issue.
#581
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
I believe there's still a hardcore contingent of Savage Dragon fans from the 90s keeping the book afloat. Larsen these days pretty much uses it as his personal soap box from what others tell me. I guess he gave up on the idea that Savage Dragon would get adapted by Hollywood and indulges in whatever he wants in the book.
McFarlane is the definitive Spider-Man artist for me. I think he's to Spider-Man what Neal Adams was to Batman.
McFarlane is the definitive Spider-Man artist for me. I think he's to Spider-Man what Neal Adams was to Batman.
#582
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
I actually liked Capullo's early art on Quasar. It was clean and not full of the squiggly line syndrome he developed with X-Force and then trying to ape McFarlane. I mean I still enjoy his art, I just look back fondly on that run (maybe the inkers had a lot to do with it).
#583
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
The reason I chose this one to link is because it happens to have a McFarlane cover. I don't see an omnibus though. I'm tempted by the much cheaper digital edition, since I'm not sure I need another TPB on my overflowing shelves. Capullo did up to issue 39 before he moved onto X-Force so there's enough for another tpb if they care to finish out the run. That and Starlin/Lim on Silver Surfer made for some awesome cosmic reads.
As far as Larsen goes... I don't think he cares much about adaptations. Even the cartoon, he basically just did it for the money, he didn't even try to convince them to stay true to the series. I bought a huge digital bundle some time back and he really was able to go all out on his book, but it just got way too out there. I used to think the best part was the letter pages, but even that became political after a while. Growing up, my friend always considered him like a McFarlane knock off because he followed McFarlane on Spider-man (twice I think) though I still enjoyed his cartoony style.
#584
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
I've been reading some Marvel Team-Up issues he did with Frank Giacoia inking, and they looked absolutely Spectacular! I have always enjoyed Sal's art, regardless of inker (even with Vince Colletta), but Frank was a next level kind of inker - he took the pencil artist's work up to the next level.
#585
Banned
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
So after saying on social media that he wasn't going to sign the facsimile edition of New Mutants #98 (released tomorrow), to the point of blocking people online for asking why, now Liefeld says he will on an Instagram post. That same Instagram post, once again diminishes Fabian Nicieza's contribution to the character. I don't get why Liefeld gets like this. Either he isn't made for social media or has real mental issues. Like, I've said, I met him before on a private level and he has been incredibly nice and respectful to me and everyone around those meetings, but his social media persona is just sad.
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Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
Social media straight up brings out the worst in people.
Also, Sal Buscema was/is my favorite Hulk artist so I belatedly protest.
Also, Sal Buscema was/is my favorite Hulk artist so I belatedly protest.
#588
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
I know he was a bit of a Byrne knock-off, buy my favorite Hulk, artist was probably Dale Keown.
Here he is actually doing a Sal Buscema homage...
Here he is actually doing a Sal Buscema homage...
#589
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
#590
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
Keown was awesome. His signature was that open mouth with drool between the teeth thing that he made look cool. I don't remember seeing anything of his in a long time, though, what's he been up to?
#591
Challenge Guru & Comic Nerd
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
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DVD Talk Hero
#593
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
PITT was awesome. The issue was that McKeown was slow as hell to release the book. I think there was a 6-7 month delay between PITT #1 & PITT #2.
#594
Banned
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
From what I read somewhere, Keown was in a bad car accident that left him really hurt. That's why his book was delayed for over a year between Pitt 1 and 2
#595
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
I did not know that. They kept that under wraps, because I remember being pissed off. The other part was that they changed the paper stock from issue #1 going forward. Apparently the thicker non-glossier paper was much more expensive. I remember folks complained at how bright issue #2 was from # 1 - in terms of color palette.
#596
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
Red Hood, do you have a source or article about the accident? Because the publishing schedule of Pitt was all over the place, so unless he was recovering for years, there was something else afoot. Here's a CBR article that notes the cover dates:
https://www.cbr.com/250381-2/
As a kid I figured that the lack of editorial mandate to get books out on time meant they just couldn't get motivated to get things out on a regular basis, but I have no idea if they were just independently wealthy from previous work or sales of issue number 1 that they didn't have to work to eat.
I do know (I think I mentioned it before) that Portacio got super ill (and had some other family medical stuff) which is why Wetworks disappeared, and he had to relearn how to draw, which is why his artwork is so different.
https://www.cbr.com/250381-2/
As a kid I figured that the lack of editorial mandate to get books out on time meant they just couldn't get motivated to get things out on a regular basis, but I have no idea if they were just independently wealthy from previous work or sales of issue number 1 that they didn't have to work to eat.
I do know (I think I mentioned it before) that Portacio got super ill (and had some other family medical stuff) which is why Wetworks disappeared, and he had to relearn how to draw, which is why his artwork is so different.
#597
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
I do know (I think I mentioned it before) that Portacio got super ill (and had some other family medical stuff) which is why Wetworks disappeared, and he had to relearn how to draw, which is why his artwork is so different.
#598
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
According to wikipedia, in 2000 he had some issue with his pancreas that put him in a diabetic coma for a week, which left him unable to draw for a long time.
#599
Banned
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
Red Hood, do you have a source or article about the accident? Because the publishing schedule of Pitt was all over the place, so unless he was recovering for years, there was something else afoot. Here's a CBR article that notes the cover dates:
https://www.cbr.com/250381-2/
As a kid I figured that the lack of editorial mandate to get books out on time meant they just couldn't get motivated to get things out on a regular basis, but I have no idea if they were just independently wealthy from previous work or sales of issue number 1 that they didn't have to work to eat.
I do know (I think I mentioned it before) that Portacio got super ill (and had some other family medical stuff) which is why Wetworks disappeared, and he had to relearn how to draw, which is why his artwork is so different.
https://www.cbr.com/250381-2/
As a kid I figured that the lack of editorial mandate to get books out on time meant they just couldn't get motivated to get things out on a regular basis, but I have no idea if they were just independently wealthy from previous work or sales of issue number 1 that they didn't have to work to eat.
I do know (I think I mentioned it before) that Portacio got super ill (and had some other family medical stuff) which is why Wetworks disappeared, and he had to relearn how to draw, which is why his artwork is so different.
#600
Banned
Re: Rob Liefeld (or Sal Buscema?!?!?!?!) - Worst comic book artist ever?
One guy that I don't understand how he still gets work is Arthur Suydam. Not only is he a well known asshole, but he's been accused of ripping off other people's. What he called homages, are basically him photoshopping over already existing artwork. For example