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Old 07-04-19, 08:09 PM
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I donít know how well it was selling at the end, but Invincible ended not along too. That and TWD were my Image go-tos for a long time. I drifted away from Saga, and Lazarus went on hiatus.
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Old 07-05-19, 01:17 AM
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Criminal is pretty great, but crime comics are kind of niche.
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Here's a much more detailed synopsis of the issue: https://walkingdead.fandom.com/wiki/Issue_193

The more I think about the less and less I like the ending. It seems really underwhelming and seems a lot darker than Kirkman intended.

I'm really bothered by the idea that
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Carl is being prosecuted for putting down a walker that wandered onto his property. All those things do is attack and kill. What was he supposed to do with it? Once it knew there people living in the house, they couldn't leave the house without endangering themselves. And what the hell is he supposed to do with it? Trap it? Look it up in a shed or his basement? What the hell kind of fucked-up world is this?


I also thought that the main series ended too abruptly, and it still felt like there was more story to tell with the Commonwealth, though I could be wrong there. It still felt really arbitrary like, yeah, Kirkman was thinking more about those 48 issue compendiums than he was about the natural rhythm of the storyline.
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Old 07-05-19, 10:08 AM
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He mentions that in the essay at the back. The biggest seller for TWD was the 48-issue compendiums. He wanted the book to be available in four of those. If he extended it to reach 200 it would have essentially meant four compendiums and a TPB.

I'm not sure why it couldn't have been a 54 issue compendium. Probably something to do with print signatures.
That seems like a really really dumb reason to end a series, unless he planned it a while ago and just kept it hidden.

As far as LCS's go, even if this is returnable and they can reorder, are those all first printings and how do they get refunds on the orders they made for the next two books (since they have to order two months in advance?)
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The Walking Dead TV show creative team: Nobody will fuck up a goldmine this badly ever again!

The Walking Dead comic book creative team: Hold my beer.
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Old 07-05-19, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
Here's a much more detailed synopsis of the issue: https://walkingdead.fandom.com/wiki/Issue_193

The more I think about the less and less I like the ending. It seems really underwhelming and seems a lot darker than Kirkman intended.

I'm really bothered by the idea that
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Carl is being prosecuted for putting down a walker that wandered onto his property. All those things do is attack and kill. What was he supposed to do with it? Once it knew there people living in the house, they couldn't leave the house without endangering themselves. And what the hell is he supposed to do with it? Trap it? Look it up in a shed or his basement? What the hell kind of fucked-up world is this?


I also thought that the main series ended too abruptly, and it still felt like there was more story to tell with the Commonwealth, though I could be wrong there. It still felt really arbitrary like, yeah, Kirkman was thinking more about those 48 issue compendiums than he was about the natural rhythm of the storyline.
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I believe Kirkman's point was to make people see that power makes people out of touch (Maggie and Hershell II), that there will always be spoil brats around (Hershell II) and that people tend to forget history, especially if they didn't live through it. Last one is more of a message to the shit that is going on today. Also, you can get away with a crime if you know the right people (both Hershell and Carl). I'm fine with the first 3 messages, but like you, I'm bittersweet on the abrupt ending. We could have gotten a last storyline, with the same time jump, that lasted from issue 193-200. That way all loose ends are tied right.



A second printing of the issue has been solicited. I don't think it will sell as well as the first printing due the story leaking out and people being pissed about how the series ended so abruptly. I still feel that Kirkman could come out of nowhere an announce a surpise Walking Dead book spinning out of the online-exclusive one-shot Walking Dead: Alien, which would focus on Rick's brother experience with zombies in Spain and throughout Europe and the sea. There's too much of a void in the company right now to be filled by the next great title, whichever that may be. Seven to Eternity is there too, but is on hiatus.
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Old 07-05-19, 02:34 PM
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That seems like a really really dumb reason to end a series, unless he planned it a while ago and just kept it hidden.

As far as LCS's go, even if this is returnable and they can reorder, are those all first printings and how do they get refunds on the orders they made for the next two books (since they have to order two months in advance?)
in the essay he said he got the idea of when to end it about 50 issues ago. Whenever the carnival was going on.
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That seems like a really really dumb reason to end a series, unless he planned it a while ago and just kept it hidden.

As far as LCS's go, even if this is returnable and they can reorder, are those all first printings and how do they get refunds on the orders they made for the next two books (since they have to order two months in advance?)
Pre-orders for new books/solicitations are charged to LCS until they are delivered to the store by UPS. The LCS are either charged at the moment, so they have to pay upon receipt (like my store used to do) or they'll pay for the order either at net 30/60, depending on how the store have managed their credit with Diamond. So, no, none of those solicitations for 194 and 195 have been charged to LCS. As for the returnability of 193, Kirkman knew that it wasn't going to happen. Usually, books that are made returnable by the publisher are books that will tend to sell out at the store level.
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Old 07-10-19, 04:36 PM
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Just read 181-193.

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In general I was OK with the ending, even though it felt abrupt. I guess the idea is that even after all Rick has been through, one d-bag with a gun can end it. And I agree that the trial at the start of the last issue seemed absurd. Was he just supposed to know it was Hershel’s roamer and lead it back to him? I did like the flash-forward that showed where people were.

I don’t think I’ve read any TWD digital singles so it was kind of nice to have the letters pages included, even if a lot of them were repetitive and not that great. I assume the final trade will include Kirkman’s essay from 193, but he also said some interesting things to say in 192 that I would hope will be included.

Anyway, great run, and I’m sure it’s the longest series I’ve read front to back. It had its highs and lows for sure, and I kinda lost interest for a while before picking it back up. But I’m sure I’ll marathon it someday, and with as much old stuff as I read, it was nice to be involved in something current. And I think I mentioned in this thread sometime that the dad of one of my kid’s friends worked on comics, and a little probing and research turned up that he’s Stefano Guadiano, who inked the last 90 or so issues.
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