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mhg83 09-28-14 04:37 AM

Kindle Voyage (10/21/14)
 
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$199 with special offers

$219 without

I still have my Kindle 3 keyboard but the higher resolution (300 PPI display) will get me to Upgrade!

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OldDude 09-28-14 05:30 AM

Re: Kindle Voyage (10/21/14)
 
No. Nothing against it, but with a Paperwhite and a tablet with Kindle Reader app (and an EPUB reader app), I'm covered for now. If the Paperwhite breaks, maybe.

Easy 09-28-14 01:54 PM

Re: Kindle Voyage (10/21/14)
 

Originally Posted by OldDude (Post 12249885)
If the Paperwhite breaks, maybe.

Same. I also have a tablet. I jumped from touch to paperwhite because the light is a big deal to me. Nothing really compelling this time IMO.
I don't see that it is worth $80 more than the paperwhite either... I'd have to see it and play with it before I decided. But right now, with two functioning kindles... there is no need.

taffer 09-28-14 02:20 PM

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No, I definitely won't be buying it. $200 is freaking ridiculous for a dedicated e-ink reader. You can buy an actual tablet for $200.

wmermine 09-28-14 03:10 PM

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No. But, when I got the Paperwite, I was concerned about no longer having buttons to change pages and having to do so with the screen. I have adjusted to that and no longer see it as an issue.

If this thing had been offered before I realized that wasn't a problem, I probably would have paid more for that feature.

mhg83 09-28-14 03:51 PM

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I hate touchscreen for turning pages which is why I've held onto my Keyboard for so long. So glad they have the buttons for Voyage.

I think in a few years the next innovation in E-Books will be eye tracking where it can detect when you've finished a page it'll turn automatically.

Trevor 09-28-14 05:44 PM

Re: Kindle Voyage (10/21/14)
 

Originally Posted by taffer (Post 12250306)
No, I definitely won't be buying it. $200 is freaking ridiculous for a dedicated e-ink reader. You can buy an actual tablet for $200.

I see your point and used to agree; but now that I've tried my wife's old kindle I must admit that reading is much easier on an e-ink display.

But I don't read enough to need a Voyage.

danwiz 09-28-14 05:55 PM

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No. I'm completely happy with 2011 Kindle keyboard!

Geofferson 09-28-14 07:27 PM

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Nope. Still prefer to read actual books. ;)

Josh-da-man 09-28-14 08:25 PM

Re: Kindle Voyage (10/21/14)
 
$200 seems like a lot for what amounts to a marginal upgrade from the Paperwhite.

Trevor 09-28-14 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Geofferson (Post 12250785)
Nope. Still prefer to read actual books. ;)

Then why are you on the website and not waiting for the DVDTalk Quarterly Fanzine editions?

Geofferson 09-29-14 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 12250912)
Then why are you on the website and not waiting for the DVDTalk Quarterly Fanzine editions?

I always opted for the physical media with books. Similar can likely also be said of people that still prefer DVDs to streaming (assuming there are some out there).

The loss of cover art is one of the unfortunate downfalls of e-readers. I frequently read vintage crime fiction and those beautiful cover illustrations are simply lost w/technology.

OldDude 09-29-14 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Geofferson (Post 12250785)
Nope. Still prefer to read actual books. ;)

But,... but, REAL books don't glow when you are reading them in a dark room.

OldDude 09-29-14 08:58 AM

Re: Kindle Voyage (10/21/14)
 

Originally Posted by Geofferson (Post 12251201)
I always opted for the physical media with books. Similar can likely also be said of people that still prefer DVDs to streaming (assuming there are some out there).

The loss of cover art is one of the unfortunate downfalls of e-readers. I frequently read vintage crime fiction and those beautiful cover illustrations are simply lost w/technology.

The cover art looks decent on a tablet, but terrible in e-ink. The downside is tablets are unreadable in direct sunlight (hell, they aren't bright enough in the shade) while e-ink excels in sunlight.

Coral 09-29-14 09:20 AM

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The better bargain is the Kobo Aura HD or the new Kobo Aura H2O (waterproof)... supports the standard .epub format, bigger screen, includes an sd-card slot, and it's cheaper.

You can't compare a tablet to an e-reader. E-readers are are lighter and easier to hold, easier on the eyes, no reflections so you can read with any degree of lighting and the battery lasts a lot longer.

mndtrp 09-29-14 01:15 PM

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If my Paperwhite ever breaks, I'll consider it. It will have to come down quite a bit in price, though. None of the upgrades are particularly enticing to me at the moment.

story 09-29-14 01:57 PM

Re: Kindle Voyage (10/21/14)
 
My Kindle Touch broke in February and I've been waiting for a new Kindle model all year. Now that it's announced... $200?! Yikes.

Easy 09-29-14 02:47 PM

Re: Kindle Voyage (10/21/14)
 

Originally Posted by Geofferson (Post 12251201)
I always opted for the physical media with books. Similar can likely also be said of people that still prefer DVDs to streaming (assuming there are some out there).

I prefer physical media because I control it, but I strongly prefer a large (500-1000 page) book on a kindle. I didn't think that would ever happen, but there it is.

lwhy? 09-29-14 04:53 PM

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I have a kindle keyboard for about 3 years, but it seems like the battery is slowly losing it's charge. I have to charge it every couple weeks instead of every few months. I was going to get the basic $69 kindle since I really like having the page buttons, but they have discontinued that version and replaced it with a touchscreen version. I'm not happy about that and I'm not putting $200 down for a voyage. Has anyone tried replacing their battery?

taffer 09-29-14 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 12251257)
You can't compare a tablet to an e-reader. E-readers are are lighter and easier to hold, easier on the eyes, no reflections so you can read with any degree of lighting and the battery lasts a lot longer.

A 7" tablet is pretty light and easy to hold. There are smartphones now that are 5+" which are only slightly smaller than a 6" e-ink Kindle.

LCD is only hard on the eyes if you have the brightness turned all the way up. Turn the brightness down. Also, much of the stuff you hear about LCD being bad for your eyes if just wrong. Like the old wives tale about how sitting too close to the TV ruins your eyes. No, it doesn't. That is just a story told to kids.

The battery is a non-issue. A tablet or smartphone holds enough charge to last a day. Most people charge daily anyway.

Reflection is the only really bad point, but I don't read outside so it doesn't bother me. I like to read in bed before going to sleep.



Originally Posted by Easy (Post 12251594)
I prefer physical media because I control it, but I strongly prefer a large (500-1000 page) book on a kindle. I didn't think that would ever happen, but there it is.

I agree.

I don't like streaming movies or TV. I want to own the DVD/BD. I don't mind digital books though. Holding a 1,000 page book isn't pleasant for extended reading. I do however prefer printed comic books though. Tablets are not able to replicate double page spreads properly, and that is a huge huge issue with digital comics. A double page spread is something like 14"x10" and on a tablet it is shrunk down to about 7"x5" so it is really tiny and text is hard to read.

DJLinus 09-29-14 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by story (Post 12251528)
My Kindle Touch broke in February and I've been waiting for a new Kindle model all year. Now that it's announced... $200?! Yikes.

I'm in the same boat. My Kindle Touch broke last month - it's stuck on a weird split of the sleep screen and an ad, and no amount of resets fixes it - and I've been waiting to see if they'd announce a new one before I replaced it. The Voyage is pretty pricey.

I think I'll just buy a Paperwhite. It'll still be an upgrade for me.

Coral 09-29-14 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by taffer (Post 12251766)
A 7" tablet is pretty light and easy to hold.

Not as light as an e-reader though... which makes it a lot easier to hold, especially if you're an avid reader who will read hours at a time.


LCD is only hard on the eyes if you have the brightness turned all the way up. Turn the brightness down.
That might be the case for you, but for many the backlight makes it uncomfortable for reading - especially for longer periods of time. Turning down the brightness only does so much - and by doing that you've made it harder to see because of reflections.


The battery is a non-issue. A tablet or smartphone holds enough charge to last a day. Most people charge daily anyway.
It's still better not to have to worry about charging every day when you can just charge every 2 weeks or longer. Nice not having to take it out of my work bag every night to charge for the next day of use.


Reflection is the only really bad point, but I don't read outside so it doesn't bother me.
Don't know about you but on nice days the sun shines through the windows as well inside the house. Plus it's not just sun, but indoor lighting cause reflections as well. There's almost always enough light introduced to cause me seeing my own reflection - and I really hate seeing my ugly mug when I'm reading.

taffer 09-29-14 09:10 PM

Re: Kindle Voyage (10/21/14)
 

Originally Posted by Coral (Post 12251893)
Not as light as an e-reader though... which makes it a lot easier to hold, especially if you're an avid reader who will read hours at a time.

7" tablets are usually about 10-12 ounces. No offense, but that's kind of sad if you can't hold 12 ounces for hours. Work out more, bro! Most paperback books weigh at least 12 ounces, and they are easy to hold for hours. Behemoths like a hardcover 1000 page book is a different story, but the average paperback weighs more than a 7" tablet.



That might be the case for you, but for many the backlight makes it uncomfortable for reading - especially for longer periods of time. Turning down the brightness only does so much - and by doing that you've made it harder to see because of reflections.
I have turned the brightness down to near zero, and it is still readable. Plus, there are other tricks to use such as using the black background with white lettering or the sepia background.



It's still better not to have to worry about charging every day when you can just charge every 2 weeks or longer. Nice not having to take it out of my work bag every night to charge for the next day of use.
True, but that's purely a convenience factor. It's not a deal breaker having to charge daily. Something that would be a deal breaker is if the battery only lasted three or four hours, but tablets will last all day.



Don't know about you but on nice days the sun shines through the windows as well inside the house. Plus it's not just sun, but indoor lighting cause reflections as well. There's almost always enough light introduced to cause me seeing my own reflection - and I really hate seeing my ugly mug when I'm reading.
Don't read near windows. Turn off the lights. Problem solved. No more reflections. Honestly I love reading with the lights off (and watching movies too). It just makes it more immersive. Plus, it saves on the electric bill not having the lights on all the time.

DaveNinja 09-30-14 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DJLinus (Post 12251869)
I'm in the same boat. My Kindle Touch broke last month - it's stuck on a weird split of the sleep screen and an ad, and no amount of resets fixes it - and I've been waiting to see if they'd announce a new one before I replaced it. The Voyage is pretty pricey.

I think I'll just buy a Paperwhite. It'll still be an upgrade for me.

If you end up getting a new one and are planning to trash the old one, i'd pay for shipping if you'd be willing to mail it to me. :)

milo bloom 10-16-14 09:17 AM

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I have a Kindle I haven't used in months but I've started using the app on my Note II. Screen's so damn big it's practically like a small paperback.


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