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Old 04-11-01, 05:58 AM
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For all the "BUFFY THE VAMPIRE" fans, I stumbled
upon this season's ending spoiler from the site: aintitcool.com
As usual I tend to take these matters with
a grain of salt. In any event here it is:

Learn How BUFFY Ends!!!

Okay, you asked how “Buffy” ends its season,
here it is. I hate how much I love posting this,
but I guess we’d better get it out there before
someone beats us to it. The following happens
(all presumably in the next six episodes, and most
likely in the big 100th episode/season finale):
* Tara gets severely injured and becomes a
comatose vegetable!

* Anya DIES!

* and Buffy, in a heroic effort to save Dawn,
leaps through the energy that Glory plans to use
to kill Dawn. Buffy stops Glory, continues flying
through the cloud o' power and flies through a
seventh story window… plummets to the ground
and dies! (Which ties in with your latest
"love means death" spoiler.)

* Apparently the final episode ends with a shot
of Buffy's tombstone, which reads: "She died
to save the world".


Old 04-11-01, 09:16 AM
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I have no doubt that the last 6 eps of this season (both on Angel and Buffy, but especially Buffy) are gonna be great! With the season finale being the 100th show, Joss has decided to really make it a whopper!

But I kinda like the previous end-of-last-episode rumor better where
Spoiler:
Spike suddenly vamps her after the Glory business is done. It'd be cool to have a vampire Buffy vs. the Scoobs arc for part of next year. But with cartoon Buffy starting up soon, maybe that's too radical for the franchise now. I hope not...
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I can see some of this happening, but unless the show is going to end, I doubt they will kill off Buffy. If it's a "fake" death, then they've just ripped off their own first season and with the fresh writing I've been seeing, I would tend to thing Joss would not do that.

Now, if I remember correctly, Spike was asking the geek guy to build him an Android Buffy. Maybe that's who it happens to. I was thinking when I saw that, if the guy does it, the robot Buffy would factor into fighting Glory somehow.

I really have been enjoying the show. It's better than most other things on TV.
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anyone know for sure when the new episodes start back up???


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Spoiler:
I think the death they've described might make sense IF Buffy was going to be vamped by either Spike or Angel as she's dying... (I didn't see the first season death, so if any of this is too repetitive, then forget it...)

In any case, if she ever DID get vamped herself, it would probably have to be in a context where everyone else thinks she's dead for a while, to give her some brief breathing room... I also think it's convenient that they've set up a "how to make a vampire mortal again" precident on Angel this season...


Farscape:
Spoiler:
But then what do I know? I thought Aryn Sunn might really be dead, too, rather the person who DOES (I think!) seem to have left the show now. I'm always wrong.
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Tuesday, April 24th!

Tuesday, April 24th are when "Buffy" and "Angel"
finally return. This info was from the WB.
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Actually, I'm getting a new episode next week.
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I heard that Anya gets offered her powers back as a demon, I doubt that she will die. They just added her to the credits.
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I stand corrected...

I stand corrected! The information that
I received as the start for new episodes of
"Buffy" & "Angel" are not in fact April 24th.
Elektra is right in saying that they start
this Tuesday. See, you can't always trust
what you read.
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I'm pretty psyched. This episode looks like it's going to be pretty good.
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Tomorrow's Buffy...


Taken from the "aintitcool.com" web site:


WHEN DID THE LAST NEW “BUFFY” AIR?
Feb. 27.

WHAT’S THE NEW “BUFFY” CALLED?
“Forever.”

WHO’S RESPONSIBLE?
“Written and directed by Marti Noxon,” reads the
credit. Noxon last wrote and directed Riley Finn’s
final episode, “Into the Woods.”

THE BIG NEWS?
Dawn resurrects Joyce!

DOES IT HAPPEN WHEN DAWN TOUCHES JOYCE’S FACE IN THE
MORGUE (AS SHE WAS ABOUT TO AT THE END OF “THE BODY”)?
No. Dawn doesn’t demonstrate any special powers this episode. It happens much later, as Dawn (who apparently hasn’t seen or read “Pet Sematary”) gathers some magical items from Giles’ magic shop and casts a spell from one
of Willow’s books.

THE OTHER BIG NEWS?
Joel Grey is in this episode! Variety’s Army Archerd mentioned last week that Grey would play an “underworld god” in the “Buffy” season finale (five episodes in the future). While I suspect that this is still true, here
Grey plays “a magic guy” Spike knows about: a doddering, bespectacled sorcerer-type -- whom Dawn fleetingly perceives as being otherworldly and creature-like.
(Another likely clue: at one point Grey’s unnamed
sorcerer plucks a hair out of Dawn’s head and comments
on her “good DNA.”)

WHAT WERE “CAP’N KRONOS’” MARCH 11 PREDICTIONS FOR 5.17 AGAIN?
“Buffy’s father visits Sunnydale for Joyce’s funeral
and to take custody of Dawn; Spike tests the Stepford Buffy; There’s an appearance of Joyce’s date, ‘Brian,’
who is connected to Glory/Ben.”

WAS “CAP’N KRONOS” RIGHT?
No. Buffy’s father doesn’t show (he’s believed to be in Europe and can’t be reached). Spike is expected to get
his Buffybot next week. Joyce’s final date does not turn up (or if he does, he’s not identified as such).

WHAT WERE “XANDER’S GIRL’S” MARCH 31 PREDICTIONS FOR
5.17 AGAIN?
Anya, fretting about her own mortality, is offered her powers back; Glory realizes she’s running out of time; Surprise visitors show up for Joyce’s funeral.

WAS “XANDER’S GIRL” RIGHT?
Not so much. Anya is not offered her powers back and
Glory does not realize she’s running out of time.
As TV Guide indicates, Angel does show up, but only
after Joyce’s funeral (it’s a daytime ceremony).
There are no surprise visitors to help bury Joyce.

WHAT WAS “SCRIPTGIRL’S” PREDICTION FOR THIS ONE?
"In 5.17 Glory finds out that The Key is in the form
of a human."

WAS “SCRIPTGIRL” RIGHT?
“Scriptgirl” was dead on. (Which augers very well for
her far lengthier description of next week’s episode.) Learn how Glory learns:

Jinx, one of Glory’s minions, approaches Ben on a park sidewalk.

BEN: Tell my sister I’m tired of running into her Jawa rejects.

JINX: She bade me come to you. The news of your relationship with the slayer…

BEN: We don’t have a relationship.

JINX: But you attempted to court her, did you not?

BEN: You were more fun when I hit you.

JINX: It’s just that Glory would like to encourage this interest of yours in the slayer. It might lead to more information about The Key.

BEN: And why would I share that with The Most Unstable
One?

JINX: Time is running short, sir. Every time you fight Glory, you’re only fighting yourself, you see?

BEN: Fine. Let the best me win. Let Glory understand
this: I won’t help her find The Key. I would never do
that to an innocent …

(Ben stops himself.)

JINX (perking up): An innocent? The Key? That’s an interesting choice of words.

BEN: No, that’s not what I …

JINX (anxiously): I understand, sir. I’m sorry to have bothered you. I’ll take my leave …

BEN (grabbing Jinx): You understand what? When I said it’s innocent, I didn’t mean The Key is … it’s not a person.

JINX: Well, of course not …

BEN: You’re going to run and tell her, aren’t you?
Do you understand what’s going to happen if she finds
The Key? How many people are going to die?

JINX: Please, I know nothing …

BEN: I can’t let that happen. Don’t you see?
(Ben removes a knife from Jinx’s belt and stabs Jinx
with it.) I can’t.

A few scenes later, we learn Jinx actually survived
the stabbing as he spills the news to an ecstatic Glorificus. “So, The Key’s all secreted away in a
flesh wrapper,” she squeals. “This narrows the search
from now on in a serious way! I mean, we didn’t have a clue! It could have been in a log or a bicycle pump or whatever, am I right?”

WHEN DOES ANGEL SHOW UP?
About 12 minutes in, shortly before the end of the
first act.

HOW MUCH SCREEN TIME DOES HE GET?
About five minutes.

DOES ANGEL BEAT UP ON SPIKE?
No. Angel encounters no one but Buffy, and their time together is spent entirely at the cemetery. Spike does
not come up as a conversation topic.

WHAT HAPPENS?
They spend the night at the cemetery, and there’s some passionate smooching toward the end, but it’s decided
maybe Angel should move on before he misplaces his soul again.

WHAT DOES TV GUIDE SAY?
“Denial leads Dawn (Michelle Trachtenberg) to a supernatural remedy for grief - a magical recipe for resurrection. Willow and Tara refuse to assist with the dangerous spell, but Spike has no such qualms about
helping to bring Joyce back.”

WHAT IS TV GUIDE NOT TELLING US?
Going behind Tara’s back, Willow inexplicably does
help Dawn by pointing her toward a book detailing a resurrection method.

WHAT’S GOOD?
The two Ben/Glory scenes are interesting, if only
because we’re so invested in seeing the big bad
plotline advanced. These scenes have little or
nothing to do with the rest of this episode,
however; they could have easily been dropped
into the end of 5.16 or the teaser of 5.18.
The Joel Grey scene was intriguing for obvious
reasons. Plus: Spike again demonstrates he may
really be one of the good guys.

WHAT’S NOT SO GOOD?
5.17’s comedy quotient. There were more laughs
in “The Body’s” Christmas flashback than in this
entire episode. One could argue that because
they’re burying Joyce this week, it shouldn’t
really be a knee-slapper, but it’s still irksome
to come upon long scenes with Xander and Willow
without getting a sense of their trademark wit.
The Buffy-Angel scene seemed entirely obligatory.
Even the usually reliable Anya material feels
very tired and familiar. Team Whedon seems to be
saving its best stuff for sweeps.

COULD JOEL GREY’S CHARACTER BE THE ONE WHO SENT
JOYCE THE FLOWERS?
I would not rule it out.

IS JOYCE BACK NEXT WEEK?
That would be telling.

Well, that's all folks...we'll have to wait until
tomorrow to see if this all pans out...

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