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Old 11-21-17, 08:49 PM
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The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17





TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 21

THE FLASH

"Therefore I Am" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-PG, V) (HDTV)

BARRY MEETS DEVOE - Barry (Grant Gustin) comes face to face with DeVoe (guest star Neil Sandilands). Devoe's past is revealed through flashbacks. Meanwhile, Iris (Candice Patton) puts the final touches on the wedding, which is a week away. David McWhirter directed the episode written by Eric Wallace & Thomas Pound (#407). Original airdate 11/21/2017.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

"my Spidey sense is tingling..." ????????????????
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

Here's the promotional poster for the big 4-show crossover next week:

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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

I love how the mask are the simple solution to having to re shoot the action with the same actor.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

They brought back Wally. Noooo!!!!!

Nice shout-out to Marvel.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

Solid episode. Good to get Devoes origin and Barry knows out of the way so quick. Now they can do some cat and mouse like Thawne in season 1
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

Has Barry learned nothing about breaking and entry from Oliver? Who doesn't where a mask? I hate it when they dumb down a character to create the wanted scenario. Other than that I enjoyed the episode. It's the first time Team Flash has discovered the big bad before the last quarter of the season. Glad that they are not dragging it out again.

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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

Yeah solid episode. It's fun to see Barry go up against someone who is way above him and his team as far as intelligence goes.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

Yeah cool episode.

The backstory of Devoe/The Thinker was pretty interesting.

and yeah it's interesting seeing Barry go against an adversary who's smarter than him.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

The full reveal of the Thinker was far better than I thought it would be, but this still should never work. Unless they show the guy has abilities they haven't shown yet, Barry should be able to take him out more easily than most others he has taken out before.

Things were going so well without Wally.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

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Unless they show the guy has abilities they haven't shown yet, Barry should be able to take him out more easily than most others he has taken out before.
Barry should be able to knock him out before he has time to think.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

Originally Posted by TGM
"my Spidey sense is tingling..." ????????????????
They've been including Marvel references in several different episodes this season. Someone on the writing staff is clearly making a game of it.

I liked the Thinker's origin for the most part, though of course they had to boost his wife's role in it for no reason other than audience involvement.

They did dumb Barry down for the sake of plot convenience, but that is a minor complaint.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

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Barry should be able to knock him out before he has time to think.
and go to jail for violating the restraining order. The Thinker hasn't done anything illegal yet.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

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and go to jail for violating the restraining order. The Thinker hasn't done anything illegal yet.
Nothing provable. I'm pretty sure that unapproved surveillance and attacking people in back alleys is illegal.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

As is conspiracy. But when has it ever mattered if the case against these villains can be proven in a court of law? Normally just stop them and throw them away in a secret prison of some kind. Of course, that only if they are not killed at some point in the process.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

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Normally just stop them and throw them away in a secret prison of some kind.
They must have a couple dozen people in their Star Labs prison by now. I suspect they're actually taken by Argus after capture, because the cells at Star Labs don't even have toilets. Let's not even consider who is paying for the power, equipment, and property taxes at Star Labs.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

Shouldn't Red Tornado be a communist and not a Nazi?.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

That was a solid backstory for Devoe. The black leather straight jacket looks ridiculous though.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

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and go to jail for violating the restraining order. The Thinker hasn't done anything illegal yet.
Bawhahahaha like Team Speed force is all moral. Oh barry, how dare you break and enter in to a potential super baddy's home. That's against the law! Unlike the crimes against humanity we do here on the daily by throwing metas into cells without a trial simply because they have powers are we see their cause as unjust. No, kidnapping and vigilante justice isn't against the law, why do you ask?


Also, they really didn't have to dumb down Barry to the point that he forgets that he constantly blurs his face to avoid detection.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

Cool to see Devoe wearing the Golden Age Thinker's Thinking Cap during the flashback scene.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

I assume from the backstory that the thinker's chair merely serves to keep him alive, not enhance his intelligence.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

I thought the ep dragged a bit.

-I can't believe the team doubted Barry's "spidey senses". No really...Barry's intuition should count for something right?
-Why didn't Cisco's vibe catch anything but the mac n cheese eating. Dumbass vibe.
-Iris is Boss Bitch of Team Flash and CW is sticking it in your faces. She reminds me of a Preacher's Wife throwing her power around.
-The actor playing Davoe/The Thinker has a natural creep factor and face that kinda work with this role.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

i'm still not sure why they try to keep making Iris a team Barry thing. Sure, it's an improvement over damsel every episode, but it's just not working for her to be on the team.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

They have to give Iris some role in the weekly formula.
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Re: The Flash (S4E07) -- "Therefore I Am" -- 11/21/17

Does Iris have a job? Do they pull a salary from Star Labs somehow? I kind of miss her being her own person and not just some sort of Flash tumor.


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