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dex14
02-04-16, 05:53 PM
The Monkees, with original members Micky Dolenz, Peter Tork and Michael Nesmith (RIP Davy Jones), will release their first album in 20 years this year. Depending on how much faith you have in a Monkees album in 2016, that may or may not be interesting, but this part is: Songwriting contributions come from Weezer frontman Rivers Cuomo, Death Cab for Cutie/Postal Service frontman Ben Gibbard, XTC co-leader Andy Partridge, Zach from Rogue Wave, and Fountains of Wayne bassist Adam Schlesinger who also produced it. Nesmith and Tork also wrote one song each for it.

The album also includes some unfinished material from the '60s, including songs co-written with Neil Diamond and Harry Nilsson. Some of the '60s material has the band backed by The Wrecking Crew.

The album is called Good Times and it's due out June 10 via Rhino. You can pre-order it at Amazon. The release doubles as the celebration of the band's 50th anniversary, and they'll also tour this year in support of it.

Spiderbite
02-04-16, 06:31 PM
I guess since Mickey and Davey did an album at one point and called themselves The Monkees, one without Davey is fine.

Does anyone really want a new album from these guys at this point? I can't imagine a large fan base wanting this. And I love The Monkees. Or at least really like them. ;)

spsimmons
02-04-16, 06:47 PM
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???? How did I miss this! AWESOME!

spsimmons
02-04-16, 06:47 PM
I'll take any new music from Mike Nesmith. Having the other two is a bonus.

spsimmons
02-04-16, 06:51 PM
I don't see this news on any of the official Facebook pages. :-(

creekdipper
02-04-16, 06:59 PM
Too bad there aren't more Davy vocal tracks on decent tunes that could be spiffed up. Did he do any good solo stuff that could be re-recorded with the rest of the guys to make it sound more like a Monkees collaboration?

Since the Monkees were always hit-and-miss with a lot of tracks that only dedicated fans (or a mother) could love, the irony is that any new album could actually be superior in whole than so much of their catalog. It's like Nesmith's bonus tracks that were superior to much of the released stuff.

I don't see a big market for this, either...even genuinely consistent bands/artists that have released solid "comeback" collections usually have disappointing sales. But I'd welcome a real attempt to recreate a "new" Monkees collection with songs from the likes of the contributors mentioned, especially if it was done with the "classic Monkees sound" ("Last Train," etc.) without the bubblegum/dated period sound. In other words, I don't care to hear a bunch of septua
genarians noodling around. If this is a nostalgic venture, then feed the pig, dangit!

Of course, there's always the option of "replacing" Davy with a sound-alike or another pop icon long in the tooth...especially someone who wouldn't have to be the primary vocalist/frontman so the lead vocals could be shared with some tight harmonies (if they can still manage that).

I know Peter Frampton has a solo career, but what would you think of his joining the band? He still sounds good vocally, and his guitar skills would lend a lot of punch. And I'd think that, given the absence of Davy, the addition of someone with his rep might increase interest.

Frampton from October of last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxytw1Ct4RI Still can hit the high notes; sounds complementary to classic Jones. More from 2015: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QStWK6AiEt4

creekdipper
02-04-16, 07:05 PM
Here's a solo Jones track from his '71 solo album (which I've never heard). With a modern arrangement & backing vocals from the others, might be turned into a good "Monkees" track.

"I'll Believe in You" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmv53QmNw8s

Another ("Rainy Jane"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btLfixqHs-U

The Cow
02-04-16, 07:09 PM
I'm a big fan, and will definitely get this one. I've seen the various incarnations of them over many years, but have not seen them since Davy died and Mike came back into the picture. Hopefully their tour makes it my way.

Good news :up:

Supermallet
02-04-16, 07:39 PM
Does anyone really want a new album from these guys at this point?

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???? How did I miss this! AWESOME!

These are just so perfect together.

creekdipper
02-05-16, 01:26 PM
More interesting Jones solo work from '71:

"Look At Me" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDnj2YQqNqI

"Take My Love" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXbJT6j5ny0 (This sounds not bad as is; could have been a good "lost" Monkees track; male backing vocals sound as if they could have been Nez. Certainly superior to a lot of Monkees album tracks)

"I Really Love You" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ad9QrTKMoI

creekdipper
02-05-16, 01:57 PM
Dolenz live from 2014. Surprising good voice & very entertaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtFKXbxtIss

I just skipped around but it sounds like a "History of the Monkees." Mickey mixes hit Monkee tunes with historical banter, telling tales of having Hendrix open for them (followed by a performance of Purple Haze), meeting the Beatles at Abbey Road (followed by the tune they were recording at the time), and other stuff such as mentioning how Nesmith's "Different Drum" was rejected as a Monkees tune (followed by a perfomance of the song by Dolenz's sister Koko, or Coco, or Cocoa, whatever). She's a pretty good singer herself and performs other period tunes ("White Rabbit") and she & Mickey do a great duet of "Cryin' in the Rain."

Had to smile. Thought it would be really bad, but turned out to be pretty decent & worth a listen.

Nice short BBC interview with Tork & Dolenz from last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tj5zL_5b-4 They still have a great sense of humor.

milo bloom
02-05-16, 03:34 PM
Could be interesting, I'll keep an ear out for it.

spsimmons
02-05-16, 06:11 PM
Well, it's official. It's been announced. I'm glad it wasn't just a rumor! Very excited!

The Cow
02-05-16, 07:10 PM
GOOD TIMES! - Partial Track Listing (with songwriters noted) Final Version To Be Announced Soon

“Good Times!” (Harry Nilsson)
“You Bring The Summer” (Andy Partridge)
“Terrifying” (Zach Rogue)
“Me & Magdalena” (Ben Gibbard)
“She Makes Me Laugh” (Rivers Cuomo)
“Love To Love” (Neil Diamond)
“I Know What I Know” (Michael Nesmith)

THE MONKEES Tour Dates

May
18-Fort Myers, FL----Barbara B. Mann Performing Arts Hall
19-Melbourne, FL----King Center for the Performing Arts
20-Tampa, FL----Ruth Eckerd Hall
21-Atlanta, GA----Frederick Brown Jr. Amphitheater
24-Charlotte, NC----Blumenthal PAC - Belk Theater
26-Washington, DC----Warner Theatre
27-Boston, MA----The Wilbur Theatre
28-Philadelphia, PA----Keswick Theatre
29-Red Bank, NJ----Count Basie Theatre

June
1- New York, NY----The Town Hall
3- Toronto, ON----Casino Rama - Entertainment Centre
4- Windsor, ON----The Colosseum at Caesars Windsor
5- Cleveland, OH----Hard Rock Live Northfield Park
7- Fort Wayne, IN----Foellinger Theatre
10-Louisville, KY----Louisville Palace Theatre
11-Hammond, IN----The Venue At Horseshoe Casino
12-Indianapolis, IN----Murat Theatre at Old National Centre
14-Dayton, OH----Rose Music Center at The Heights
28-Dallas, TX----AT&T PAC – Winspear Opera House
30-Tulsa, OK----Hard Rock Hotel & Casino – The Joint

July
1- Mayetta, KS----Prairie Band Casino & Resort – Grand Lakes Ballroom
16-Hampton Beach, NH----Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom
22-Hot Springs, AR----Oaklawn Racing and Gaming – Finish Line Theater

September
14-Tucson, AZ---- Fox Tucson Theatre
15-Phoenix, AZ----Mesa Arts Center – Ikeda Theater
16-Los Angeles, CA----Pantages Theatre
17-Las Vegas, NV----Primm Valley Casino Resorts – Star of the Desert Arena
20-San Francisco, CA----The Warfield
21-Modesto, CA----Gallo Center For The Arts
23-Lincoln City, OR----Chinook Winds Casino Resort
24-Lincoln City, O----Chinook Winds Casino Resort
25-Seattle, WA----The Moore Theatre

October
1- Biloxi, MS----Hard Rock Live Biloxi
22-Paso Robles, CA----Vina Robles Amphitheatre
29-Shippensburg, PA----Shippensburg University – H. Ric Luhrs PAC

creekdipper
02-06-16, 04:18 AM
I'll take any new music from Mike Nesmith. Having the other two is a bonus.

Well, this quote from a RS link http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-monkees-plot-50th-anniversary-tour-new-lp-good-times-20160205?utm_source=newsletter&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=020516_16&utm_medium=emailabout re: the new tour & album is disappointing, to say the
least:

<b>As of now, there's no formal plans for Mike Nesmith to contribute any guitar or vocal parts.</b>

(Then again, you may have only been talking about his songwriting, and the press release did say he'd be contributing a song)

spsimmons
02-10-16, 04:20 PM
AHHHH!! Nesmith is in! Finally. I was worried.

http://www.monkeesconcerts.com/blog/breaking-rhinos-john-hughes-confirms-full-nesmith-participation-on-good-times

Appearing on the Zilch! podcast in the latest episode released this afternoon, Rhino's John Hughes, who is acting as executive producer for the brand new Monkees studio album, Good Times!, confirmed that all three members of The Monkees will be full participants on the album:
"[Producer] Adam (Schlesinger)...is working very closely with all three guys...all three are on the album and full participantsÖplaying on tracks, singing (obviously), contributing songs...it's really all The Monkees, and that includes Davy."
Davy will be a part of the new album by way of Neil Diamond's "Love to Love," first recorded in 1967 but never officially released on an original Monkees album. It will appear on Good Times! in a reworked version with Davy's lead vocal.

Spiderbite
02-10-16, 05:11 PM
AHHHH!! Nesmith is in! Finally. I was worried.

http://www.monkeesconcerts.com/blog/breaking-rhinos-john-hughes-confirms-full-nesmith-participation-on-good-times

Appearing on the Zilch! podcast in the latest episode released this afternoon, Rhino's John Hughes, who is acting as executive producer for the brand new Monkees studio album, Good Times!, confirmed that all three members of The Monkees will be full participants on the album:
"[Producer] Adam (Schlesinger)...is working very closely with all three guys...all three are on the album and full participants…playing on tracks, singing (obviously), contributing songs...it's really all The Monkees, and that includes Davy."
Davy will be a part of the new album by way of Neil Diamond's "Love to Love," first recorded in 1967 but never officially released on an original Monkees album. It will appear on Good Times! in a reworked version with Davy's lead vocal.

Only getting this if they dump Adam and Jeff Lynne produces. ;)

TomOpus
02-10-16, 05:41 PM
Only getting this if they dump Adam and Jeff Lynne produces. ;)
Now that would be interesting.

spsimmons
02-10-16, 06:09 PM
Could be interesting if Rick Rubin produced too.

creekdipper
02-11-16, 10:17 AM
Could be interesting if Rick Rubin produced too.

I dunno if I want to hear Micky, Peter, and Mike mumbling lyrics in a closet accompanied by a beat-up Gretsch acoustic. -wink-

Good news that Mike has officially signed on. It would be great if this could be undertaken as a real group effort under the guidance of somebody who has great affection for them...not a piecemeal, stitched-together pastiche of former recordings with some overdubs and then marketed as a "new" Monkees recording. Hoping that this turns out well for the boys and their fans.

Taking the production approach of a Rubin or Lynne who appreciates their legacy and wants to give them another day in the sun would be nice. I think of Glen Campbell's last recordings...those were well done, respectful, and worthy additions to his catalog (as well as being poignant).

Rocketdog2000
02-11-16, 07:21 PM
Only getting this if they dump Adam and Jeff Lynne produces. ;)

Adam is actually one of the perfect people to do this album. The production work he's done on other records has been strong, and let's the artist sound like the artist. Plus, he's well steeped in classic 60's Pop/Rock and Power Pop. Jeff Lynne, while I admire him, would just make it sound too much like Jeff Lynne, as he's done with everything else he's produced.

Could be interesting if Rick Rubin produced too.

A) I don't think Rubin would even be remotely interested in producing them, and B) he'd be completely wrong for the project. He wouldn't bring the right aesthetics to the band. Now if he were producing a Mike Nesmith solo album, than that would be a different story.

Spiderbite
02-12-16, 09:30 AM
Jeff Lynne, while I admire him, would just make it sound too much like Jeff Lynne, as he's done with everything else he's produced.


That is probably why I like everything he has ever produced because I like everything he has done both solo and ELO-wise.

I would listen to his recording of him taking a dump with his drum machine. It would still be a catchy ditty.

spsimmons
02-12-16, 04:49 PM
I wasn't serious about Rick Rubin. I like what he did with Johnny Cash, but that definitely wouldn't fit the Monkees. I love the work he did with Mick Jagger on Wandering Spirit though. I am anxious to hear how the older Monkees do sounding like the younger Monkees. Can't wait.

spsimmons
02-25-16, 08:17 AM
Good news! A photograph of Nesmith in the studio was shared on the Monkees FB page. Very happy to know Nesmith will be participating.

creekdipper
02-25-16, 10:59 AM
Good news! A photograph of Nesmith in the studio was shared on the Monkees FB page. Very happy to know Nesmith will be participating.

:up:

Good points from many about some great producers who put their distinctive stamp on most of artists they work with. I love T-Bone Burnett & Daniel Lanois, but regardless of the disparate musicians they produce, it always seems to have their trademark sound.

Not familiar with Adam Schlesinger's production work, so listened to his work with Verve Pipe (Underneath, 2013). Link here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLok1ThLuUaB504y81c-3PRs18twKZaKWT

If he can pull the best vocals out of the lads and get a pure pop sound reminiscent of classic Monkees, he'll have done his job.

spsimmons
05-02-16, 11:20 PM
First two songs from the album have been released. They sound pretty damn good:

She Makes Me Laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpp-Ry2ZNhY

You Bring The Summer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_D6XNpYxdU

bd007h
05-03-16, 02:21 AM
Rivers Cuomo did a great job of really capturing that iconic Monkees sound in writing She Makes Me Laugh.

Hokeyboy
05-03-16, 10:49 AM
Both songs are fantastic. It's Monkees refracted through Rivers Cuomo and XTC, but it still has the chime, jangle, and melody we associate with the 60s songwriting/performing conglomerate. And I say that as a fan.

Going to the opening night show in Ft. Myers. Can't wait :up:

bd007h
06-02-16, 10:57 PM
Great album. Sounds straight out of the 60s.

Hokeyboy
06-02-16, 11:35 PM
The album is really good. Like, I never expected it to be this good at all. I have gone back to the well several times over the past week. Good stuff.

Saw the opening night of the tour as well. I miss Nez. The 2012/2013 tour with him was something else, although the 45th anniversary tour (Davy's last) still had the best set list.

I think if people consider The Monkees as a musical creative entity that encompassed not only the four "members" but also the stable of songwriters and musicians developed such a rich, satisfying catalog of tunes, they'd be more highly regarded among the so-called "rock intelligentsia".

ween

bd007h
06-03-16, 12:16 AM
I only ever saw them on their 30th anniversary tour in 1996 with Davy, Mickey, and Peter, which was my first concert ever. I was 10.

chino77
06-08-16, 07:51 AM
i saw them in the mid 80's (pool it tour) for my first concert ever (with weird al). i was prob around 10 also.

this album does sound surprisingly good too. i really wasnt expecting that.

slop101
06-11-16, 09:18 AM
Finally got around to listening to this, and I agree with everyone, that it's a really god album with some great catchy tunes - it's like music candy. The songs do sound a lot like songs from each songwriter. The only bummer is that I wish Jones was alive to lend his voice to this album - he was definitely their best singer and had the most distinctive voice.

Hokeyboy
06-11-16, 10:28 AM
^I'd argue Micky was easily the best (and most versatile) singer in the group, and Mike the most distinctive, but I loved Davy. He gave The Monkees so much flavor.

Sonny Corinthos
06-11-16, 11:41 AM
The Monkees Earn Highest-Charting Album Since 1968 on Billboard 200 Chart.

Hey, hey, itís The Monkees! The veteran group nabs its highest-charting album since 1968 on the Billboard 200, as Good Times! debuts at No. 14.

The set, which is the actís first studio album since 1996 (and first recorded without the late Davy Jones, who died in 2012), launches with 23,000 equivalent album units earned in the week ending June 2, according to Nielsen Music. Of that sum, 22,000 were in pure album sales -- the groupís biggest sales week since Nielsen Music began tracking data in 1991. (The robust number lands the set at No. 6 on the Top Album Sales chart.)

The Monkees last charted higher on the Billboard 200 back in 1968, when The Birds, The Bees & The Monkees peaked at No. 3. They previously logged five top 10s, with their first four albums all reaching No. 1 in 1966 and 1967.

The new album commemorates the 50th anniversary of the groupís formation in 1965 and the debut of its eponymous, Emmy Award-winning TV show in 1966. The set also enters at high ranks on a host of other charts, including a No. 1 bow on Tastemakers, No. 6 on Top Album Sales and No. 3 on Top Internet Albums.

The three surviving Monkees (Micky Dolenz, Michael Nesmith and Peter Tork) all appear on Good Times!, as does Jones on one track, via an archival recording.

The album sports new songs written by Rivers Cuomo, Noel Gallagher, Paul Weller and Ben Gibbard. Those all-new tracks are joined by recently completed songs that date back to the 1960s, by some of the writers who penned The Monkeesí biggest hits (Neil Diamond, Carole King, Gerry Goffin, Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart).

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7401076/monkees-highest-charting-album-since-1968

Spiderbite
06-12-16, 12:34 AM
22K album sales gets you all the way to #6?

That seems sad to me.

Daytripper
06-12-16, 01:02 AM
22K album sales gets you all the way to #6?

That seems sad to me.

Oh more than sad. Considering that there are 323M people in the U.S. That is why, as they say, the music industry is dead.

Rocketdog2000
06-18-16, 02:21 AM
^I'd argue Micky was easily the best (and most versatile) singer in the group, and Mike the most distinctive, but I loved Davy. He gave The Monkees so much flavor.

Agreed. Micky was not only their best singer, but one of the best of his generation, and also highly underrated. If you really go back and listen to their catalog, you'll notice that on many of their songs, he's not only singing the lead, but also overdubbed for harmony, and sometimes even double harmony (or three voice) parts. You wouldn't find that same thing with Davy, Mike or Peter. The either sang lead or harmony, but rarely both on the same song.

As for the new album, it's amazingly good, and one of the best albums I've heard from anyone this year. The various bonus tracks out there - "Love's What I Want" (Japanese bonus track, also written by Andy Partridge), "Terrifiyng" (written by Zach Rogue of Rogue Wave, ITunes and Digital Download bonus track), "Me & Magdelena Version 2 (a rocked up take on the ballad presented on the album, written by Ben Gibbard of Death Cab For Cutie, also an iTunes and Digital Download bonus track) and "A Better World" (FYE exclusive bonus track, written by Peter's brother Nick) - are all as strong, if not stronger than the cuts that made the album proper. Both "Terrifying" and "Love's What I Want" will also be a bonus 45 on the Barnes & Nobel exclusive vinyl version of the album, which streets in August. You can hear all these on YouTube, too, for anyone who wants to check them out.

sportsfan64
08-11-16, 08:46 PM
If you get AXS-TV on your cable, there's a Monkees concert on tonight at 9PM ET.


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