Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
01-18-16, 12:46 PM
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Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
KARA DOES HER BEST TO SUPPORT WINN WHEN HIS FATHER, THE SUPERVILLAIN TOYMAN, BREAKS OUT OF PRISON, ON "SUPERGIRL," MONDAY, JAN. 18
"Childish Things" - Kara does her best to support Winn when his father, the supervillain Toyman, breaks out of prison and seeks out his son for unknown reasons. Also, Cat offers Lucy a job at CatCo and Alex asks Hank to use his powers to help uncover Maxwell Lord's plans, on SUPERGIRL, Monday, Jan. 18 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Henry Czerny guest stars as Winslow Schott, Sr., aka Toyman.
REGULAR CAST:
Melissa Benoist (Kara Danvers/Supergirl)
Calista Flockhart (Cat Grant)
Chyler Leigh (Alex Danvers)
Mehcad Brooks (James Olsen)
David Harewood (Hank Henshaw)
Jeremy Jordan (Winslow "Winn" Schott)
RECURRING CAST:
Peter Facinelli (Maxwell Lord)
Jenna Dewan-Tatum (Lucy Lane)
Tristin Mays (Paulina)
GUEST CAST:
Chris Jai Alex (Guard #1)
David Salsa (Guard #2)
Henry Czerny (Winslow Schott, Sr./Toyman)
Isaac Keys (Guard #3)
Bruno Amato (Security Guard)
Kavita Patil (Doctor)
Scott Alan Smith (Chester Dunholtz)
Emma Caulfield (Agent Cameron Chase)
Hope Lauren (Comatose Woman)
STORY BY: Yahlin Chang
TELEPLAY BY: Anna Musky-Goldwyn and James DeWille
BASED ON: The Characters Appearing in the DC Comics
DIRECTED BY: Jamie Babbit
"Childish Things" - Kara does her best to support Winn when his father, the supervillain Toyman, breaks out of prison and seeks out his son for unknown reasons. Also, Cat offers Lucy a job at CatCo and Alex asks Hank to use his powers to help uncover Maxwell Lord's plans, on SUPERGIRL, Monday, Jan. 18 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Henry Czerny guest stars as Winslow Schott, Sr., aka Toyman.
REGULAR CAST:
Melissa Benoist (Kara Danvers/Supergirl)
Calista Flockhart (Cat Grant)
Chyler Leigh (Alex Danvers)
Mehcad Brooks (James Olsen)
David Harewood (Hank Henshaw)
Jeremy Jordan (Winslow "Winn" Schott)
RECURRING CAST:
Peter Facinelli (Maxwell Lord)
Jenna Dewan-Tatum (Lucy Lane)
Tristin Mays (Paulina)
GUEST CAST:
Chris Jai Alex (Guard #1)
David Salsa (Guard #2)
Henry Czerny (Winslow Schott, Sr./Toyman)
Isaac Keys (Guard #3)
Bruno Amato (Security Guard)
Kavita Patil (Doctor)
Scott Alan Smith (Chester Dunholtz)
Emma Caulfield (Agent Cameron Chase)
Hope Lauren (Comatose Woman)
STORY BY: Yahlin Chang
TELEPLAY BY: Anna Musky-Goldwyn and James DeWille
BASED ON: The Characters Appearing in the DC Comics
DIRECTED BY: Jamie Babbit
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01-18-16, 09:39 PM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
Tricky Max.
01-18-16, 10:12 PM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
Thought Toyman was a villain that they could have gone a little more broad with. Instead, he was kind of dull. Henry Czerny seemed like an odd choice.
01-18-16, 11:23 PM
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01-19-16, 07:35 AM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
I was disappointed, -I, too, thought they could have gone a little "bigger" with Toyman's "persona". I mean, not "Trickster" on "The Flash" bigger, but something more colorful than a standard villain on just about any other series. I also thought the solution to the bombs was about as sketchy as what they pulled in the "Trickster" episode of "The Flash".
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01-19-16, 07:55 AM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
Couldn't watch this one due to a local dispute between CBS and DirectTV. Yay,
01-19-16, 08:59 AM
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I was disappointed, -I, too, thought they could have gone a little "bigger" with Toyman's "persona". I mean, not "Trickster" on "The Flash" bigger, but something more colorful than a standard villain on just about any other series. I also thought the solution to the bombs was about as sketchy as what they pulled in the "Trickster" episode of "The Flash".
It's funny, but I was also thinking that he didn't need to be as big as Mark Hamill, but I expected a little more. It certainly felt like a character they could have had a little more fun with. Given his association with a series regular, I assume they just didn't want that though. If they did then why hire Czerny. Whatever his strengths as an actor are, big and broad don't seem to be in his normal bag of tricks.
01-19-16, 03:23 PM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
Yeah that was kinda stupid. Not very SUPER to not be able to fly out of 3 feet of quicksand. This is a being who can supposedly move buildings and fly at supersonic speeds. If people can pull themselves out of quicksand using the power of their arms, we are supposed to believe that a superpowered hero cannot generate enough upward force to escape sand??
01-19-16, 03:46 PM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
So Winn went for it with Kara. I wonder if he did it on purpose or was spurred on by the moment. He even dropped the 'L' bomb on her. That is hard to figure out since we really haven't gotten the in-depth characterization on Winn that we've gotten for Kara or even her sister.
Despite having been around decades as one of Superman's villains, Toyman has never really had much of an iconic look and DC has endlessly attempted to remake the character. I would say most people today know the villain from Superman: The Animated Series. He was usually portrayed as an overweight guy wearing an ugly suit of some kind. That got eliminated in the kinder, gentler PC world we live in today.
http://www.supermansupersite.com/toyman.html
Despite having been around decades as one of Superman's villains, Toyman has never really had much of an iconic look and DC has endlessly attempted to remake the character. I would say most people today know the villain from Superman: The Animated Series. He was usually portrayed as an overweight guy wearing an ugly suit of some kind. That got eliminated in the kinder, gentler PC world we live in today.
http://www.supermansupersite.com/toyman.html
01-19-16, 03:47 PM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
I don't see anything PC being the issue here. Unless "not very visually interesting and kind of ridiculous looking" qualifies as PC.
01-19-16, 04:04 PM
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That trope fell out of favor over the years as society became far more sensitive about applying character judgments to physical attributes. That is the definition of political correctness. Your mileage may vary.
01-19-16, 04:20 PM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
It's not like they replaced him with a super svelte design:
Sometimes the definition of political correctness seems to be "Change?!?!"
Though his Challenge of the Superfriends" design was much thinner.
Sometimes the definition of political correctness seems to be "Change?!?!"
Though his Challenge of the Superfriends" design was much thinner.
01-19-16, 04:56 PM
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And Supergirl...can't you USE THE FREAKIN' DOOR sometimes? Always crashing through the ceiling for no reason.
01-19-16, 08:25 PM
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01-19-16, 11:46 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with this Toyman or his look. They could have dressed him up a little more but I understand why they didn't give him a cheesy suit. I actually enjoyed the sand trap more than some of the gimmicks we've seen recently from other toy-based characters.
01-20-16, 12:11 AM
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I liked seeing the early brutality with Toyman in prison, but disappointed they didn't do much with him. I still hate the throwaway lines about being a woman like with Alex and Lord's dinner. I thought Alex was also annoyingly pushy with Hank given how she protected Kara so much before.
Liked Winn making a move and going somewhere with that relationship, including his little speeches. First time I've liked that character all series.
01-20-16, 01:48 AM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
I'm only familiar with Martian Manhunter from the few things I read about him here when he appeared on Smallville. This version is way better. I don't see any reason (even by comic book standards) why being from Mars would give him these powers on Earth, but I'll take it. Especially since they write Supergirl as a somewhat weakened Kryptonian at this point. Flying, walking through solid objects, erasing memory, shape shifting. More please.
I'd almost say they need a Martian Manhunter show except that I learned my lesson with Hawk on Spencer: For Hire... Some characters are just better as secondary characters.
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01-20-16, 01:58 AM
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Speaking of the Manhunter, I don't get why he had to wipe that guy's entire mind. Or why he even switched to his Hank form either in that scene.
01-20-16, 02:26 AM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
I don't know how expensive he is, but for this viewer, he's the best thing about this show.
I'm only familiar with Martian Manhunter from the few things I read about him here when he appeared on Smallville. This version is way better. I don't see any reason (even by comic book standards) why being from Mars would give him these powers on Earth, but I'll take it. Especially they write Supergirl as a somewhat weakened Kryptonian at this point. Flying, walking through solid objects, erasing memory, shape shifting. More please.
I'd almost say they need a Martian Manhunter show except that I learned my lesson with Hawk on Spencer: For Hire... Some characters are just better as secondary characters.
I'm only familiar with Martian Manhunter from the few things I read about him here when he appeared on Smallville. This version is way better. I don't see any reason (even by comic book standards) why being from Mars would give him these powers on Earth, but I'll take it. Especially they write Supergirl as a somewhat weakened Kryptonian at this point. Flying, walking through solid objects, erasing memory, shape shifting. More please.
I'd almost say they need a Martian Manhunter show except that I learned my lesson with Hawk on Spencer: For Hire... Some characters are just better as secondary characters.
01-20-16, 09:05 AM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
I was disappointed, -I, too, thought they could have gone a little "bigger" with Toyman's "persona". I mean, not "Trickster" on "The Flash" bigger, but something more colorful than a standard villain on just about any other series. I also thought the solution to the bombs was about as sketchy as what they pulled in the "Trickster" episode of "The Flash".
Yeah, I actually got a tad bit excited that they would bring in an established villain, and they totally blew it.
Yeah that was kinda stupid. Not very SUPER to not be able to fly out of 3 feet of quicksand. This is a being who can supposedly move buildings and fly at supersonic speeds. If people can pull themselves out of quicksand using the power of their arms, we are supposed to believe that a superpowered hero cannot generate enough upward force to escape sand??
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01-20-16, 01:43 PM
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Re: Supergirl (S1E10) -- "Childish Things" -- 1/18/16
I didn't think MM needed to mind wipe the guy either but I think the writers were gung-ho about giving him some sort of serious emotional arc.
MM can also turn invisible and phase through walls. There was little need for him to impersonate Maxwell Lord. Martian Manhunter is the quintessential team player that works better with a full ensemble of other heroes than he does on his own. DC would make him the de facto Justice League team leader whenever Batman or Superman weren't around.
I will be very disappointed if they don't drop an Oreo reference on us very soon.
MM can also turn invisible and phase through walls. There was little need for him to impersonate Maxwell Lord. Martian Manhunter is the quintessential team player that works better with a full ensemble of other heroes than he does on his own. DC would make him the de facto Justice League team leader whenever Batman or Superman weren't around.
I will be very disappointed if they don't drop an Oreo reference on us very soon.