Seven '90s Movies That Stand the Test of Time... And Seven That Don't
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Seven '90s Movies That Stand the Test of Time... And Seven That Don't
An article on Screen Junkies ( LINK )
text of the article (in spoiler tags)
Just the list of what held up (according to the article's writer, not necessarily me):
SCI-FI: Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)
BLACK GANGSTER FILMS: Menace II Society (1993)
WHITE GANGSTER FILMS: GoodFellas (1990)
EPIC DISASTER FLICKS: none (...unless Dumb and Dumber counts)
ROMANTIC FILMS: Jerry Maguire (1996)
HORROR: The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
PRISON DRAMAS: The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
Just the list of what didn't hold up (according to the article's writer, not necessarily me):
SCI-FI: Species (1995)
BLACK GANGSTER FILMS: South Central (1992)
WHITE GANGSTER FILMS: King of New York (1990)
EPIC DISASTER FLICKS: Everything – Armageddon, Independence Day, Deep Impact, ...
ROMANTIC FILMS: Shakespeare in Love (1998)
HORROR: The Blair Witch Project (1999)
PRISON DRAMAS: Blood In Blood Out: Bound By Honor (1993)
Not a bad article. (The only pick I would loudly disagree with is the steaming dung heap Jerry Maguire - IMO, it is far, far worse than Shakespeare in Love and would be my pick for "Not Holding Up" while my pick for a '90s Romantic Film that does hold up would be Before Sunrise.)
So what do you think of the article writer's picks? Which ones would you change for these categories for '90s movies you think held up and which didn't hold up? (And add other categories if you can think of movies for both "did" and "didn't" hold up.)
(You can use the template below)
categories:
SCI-FI
BLACK GANGSTER FILMS
WHITE GANGSTER FILMS
EPIC DISASTER FLICKS
ROMANTIC FILMS
HORROR
PRISON DRAMAS
text of the article (in spoiler tags)
Spoiler:
Just the list of what held up (according to the article's writer, not necessarily me):
SCI-FI: Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)
BLACK GANGSTER FILMS: Menace II Society (1993)
WHITE GANGSTER FILMS: GoodFellas (1990)
EPIC DISASTER FLICKS: none (...unless Dumb and Dumber counts)
ROMANTIC FILMS: Jerry Maguire (1996)
HORROR: The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
PRISON DRAMAS: The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
Just the list of what didn't hold up (according to the article's writer, not necessarily me):
SCI-FI: Species (1995)
BLACK GANGSTER FILMS: South Central (1992)
WHITE GANGSTER FILMS: King of New York (1990)
EPIC DISASTER FLICKS: Everything – Armageddon, Independence Day, Deep Impact, ...
ROMANTIC FILMS: Shakespeare in Love (1998)
HORROR: The Blair Witch Project (1999)
PRISON DRAMAS: Blood In Blood Out: Bound By Honor (1993)
Not a bad article. (The only pick I would loudly disagree with is the steaming dung heap Jerry Maguire - IMO, it is far, far worse than Shakespeare in Love and would be my pick for "Not Holding Up" while my pick for a '90s Romantic Film that does hold up would be Before Sunrise.)
So what do you think of the article writer's picks? Which ones would you change for these categories for '90s movies you think held up and which didn't hold up? (And add other categories if you can think of movies for both "did" and "didn't" hold up.)
(You can use the template below)
categories:
SCI-FI
BLACK GANGSTER FILMS
WHITE GANGSTER FILMS
EPIC DISASTER FLICKS
ROMANTIC FILMS
HORROR
PRISON DRAMAS
Last edited by dhmac; 01-09-15 at 03:32 PM.
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Re: Seven '90s Movies That Stand the Test of Time... And Seven That Don't
He talks about "not holding up" but when I saw the list and saw Shakespeare in Love and The Blair Witch Project I knew he hated them back in the 90s. Clicked on the spoiler tag and found I was exactly right. Since he clearly doesn't understand the very concept he's writing about, he's easy to dismiss.
Plus, he's 100% wrong about The Blair Witch Project spawning "found footage" films, because if there's one rule about copycat films, it's that you strike while the iron is hot (I.E., Italy did not start cranking out Road Warrior/Escape From New York clones in the late 90s...they did it mid 80s). There was at least 7-8 years between Blair Witch and Paranormal Activity and the other found footage films that flood the horror genre.
Plus, he's 100% wrong about The Blair Witch Project spawning "found footage" films, because if there's one rule about copycat films, it's that you strike while the iron is hot (I.E., Italy did not start cranking out Road Warrior/Escape From New York clones in the late 90s...they did it mid 80s). There was at least 7-8 years between Blair Witch and Paranormal Activity and the other found footage films that flood the horror genre.
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TBWP held up fine, it's just a tired trend. Next to other movies in it's genre, it's still a solid example of how to do it right.
One movie I think has aged poorly is The Matrix. The posturing, outfits, and over-used-like-crazy-past-15 years slow mo are kind of cringe inducing these days.
One movie I think has aged poorly is The Matrix. The posturing, outfits, and over-used-like-crazy-past-15 years slow mo are kind of cringe inducing these days.
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See, here's someone who understands the concept. "Not standing the test of time" means a movie was great way back when, but when you watch it now you say "wow...I can't believe I liked this". It happens. Naw, this guy (who wrote the original article) just hated some popular 90s movies, and wants another chance to slam on them again.
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Saturday Night Fever. God what a POS. Chick just talks to this guy for 30 seconds at the end and decides to become friends even though he tried to rape her just the night before.
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Stupid list mainly because the comparison films are so unlike one another. Jerry Maguire vs Shakespeare in Love? Kind of strange. Were disaster movies ever good, like the ones from the 70s? Not really. Species always sucked. I haven't seen South Central and a couple other flicks. I disagree with some others that Jerry Maguire is crap. It's probably one of the best Tom Cruise movies from the 90s, save for Eyes Wide Shut and his great role in Magnolia. His early 90s stuff doesn't really hold up that well (but are enjoyable enough simply because others like A Few Good Men and The Firm had great casts). I wouldn't list The Matrix either, and think its sequels are significantly underrated. Any American John Woo movie from the 90s, save for Face/Off (but still heavily used in it) used slo mo more embarrassingly. Bullet time was always silly, but it was very effective for the movie (black outfits are cringe inducing? I'm not sure what posturing means in film, is that like striking a pose?). My dad to this day still calls movies that have silly slo mo as having "a John Woo moment", and he's not even much of a film junkie (at least not since the 70s).
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I haven't seen South Central in well over 15 years (Even when it became a permanent fixture in the early days of the Wal-Mart $5 bins) but I remember everyone I knew who saw it back then liked it. I'm sure it's acting & preachy screenplay will seem dated today, but I'd really love to see how the fx & makeup holds up. Because that movie contained THE most realistically shocking gunshot hit/wound from a 12-gauge shotgun that I've ever seen in a movie.
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Stupid list mainly because the comparison films are so unlike one another. Jerry Maguire vs Shakespeare in Love? Kind of strange. Were disaster movies ever good, like the ones from the 70s? Not really. Species always sucked. I haven't seen South Central and a couple other flicks. I disagree with some others that Jerry Maguire is crap. It's probably one of the best Tom Cruise movies from the 90s, save for Eyes Wide Shut and his great role in Magnolia. His early 90s stuff doesn't really hold up that well (but are enjoyable enough simply because others like A Few Good Men and The Firm had great casts). I wouldn't list The Matrix either, and think its sequels are significantly underrated. Any American John Woo movie from the 90s, save for Face/Off (but still heavily used in it) used slo mo more embarrassingly. Bullet time was always silly, but it was very effective for the movie (black outfits are cringe inducing? I'm not sure what posturing means in film, is that like striking a pose?). My dad to this day still calls movies that have silly slo mo as having "a John Woo moment", and he's not even much of a film junkie (at least not since the 70s).
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The one thing you can say about Saturday Night Fever as a 90s movie is that it was definitely ahead of its time!
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Species, though boasting a cool creature design, and all-star cast, and a few nifty sci-fi ideas, is basically just a movie for people too self conscious to rent softcore porn .
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I could have done without the Zion scenes (in both sequels) in the way they were written. I just didn't care about any of those characters. I still get more enjoyment out of the trilogy as a whole than most franchise series.
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Yes. Count me among those who think Blair Witch... was ground-breaking, bracing, and close to, but not quite, superb. There were those who were made sick by the jittery camerawork, and it's understandable that they hated it, but I just don't see how anyone could find it lame, except for those who went in expecting a gorefest or traditional scare pic.
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- Too much shaky-cam
- 3 annoying idiots as the leads (so annoying and so stupid, they had me cheering for the witch by the end)
- Not enough plot to justify its 81 minute running time (it's about twice what it should be)
- Not scary at all (it amazes me that anyone finds this movie remotely scary)
(And, yes, I saw The Blair Witch Project again recently - just back in October - and it was much worse than I remembered)
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The Matrix still holds up to me, but then again I really enjoy it and is one of the movies that I find to be always rewatchable.
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I'm pretty sure the only reason anyone really cared about "Species" is that Natasha Henstridge gets nekkid.
"Independence Day" doesn't, but "Men In Black" does. The ying & yang of the Will Smith superpower era.
"Independence Day" doesn't, but "Men In Black" does. The ying & yang of the Will Smith superpower era.
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The thing that hurts The Matrix is its sequels. Do a mindwipe of those and just watch the original as a standalone movie and it holds up well. (Not in a mindblowing way, but just holds up well.)
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I can watch Species as the cheesy sci-fi/horror B-movie it is. Nothing more, nothing less.
But its sequels... those are completely unwatchable.
But its sequels... those are completely unwatchable.
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Seven Movies That Still Hold Up
1. T2
2. Pulp Fiction
3. 12 Monkeys
4. The Sixth Sense
5. Dumb & Dumber
6. Disney Animation (The first half)
7. Toy Story
Movies That Don't Hold Up
1. Forest Gump
2. The Matrix
3. Titanic
4. Independence Day
5. Jurassic Park
6. Kevin Costner Movies
7. Twister
1. T2
2. Pulp Fiction
3. 12 Monkeys
4. The Sixth Sense
5. Dumb & Dumber
6. Disney Animation (The first half)
7. Toy Story
Movies That Don't Hold Up
1. Forest Gump
2. The Matrix
3. Titanic
4. Independence Day
5. Jurassic Park
6. Kevin Costner Movies
7. Twister