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Travis McClain
12-03-14, 08:38 AM
Previously on DVD Talk TV on DVD* Challenge...

Season One Discussion Thread (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/581101-2010-tv-dvd-challenge-discussion-thread.html) | List Thread (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/583934-january-2011-tv-dvd-challenge-list-thread.html) Season Two Discussion Thread (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/597301-january-2012-tv-dvd-challenge-discussion-thread.html) | List Thread (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/597507-january-2012-tv-dvd-challenge-list-thread.html)
Season Three Discussion Thread (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/607072-tune-tv-dvd-challenge-same-bat-time-same-bat-forum.html) | List Thread (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/607465-tv-dvd-challenge-third-season-list-thread.html) Season Four Discussion Thread (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/615839-tv-dvd-challenge-season-four-discussion-thread.html) | List Thread (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/616403-tv-dvd-challenge-fourth-season-list-thread.html)

Ah, January. It's cold, there's very little new content in any entertainment field and most football fans have already figured out that their teams are going nowhere. Is there a better time to hibernate on the couch and gorge on TV shows?

Guidelines/Rules

This challenge begins at Dusk (your time) on Boxing Day, 26 December 2014, and concludes at Dawn (your time), 1 February 2015.
Eligible content is anything originally produced for television broadcast, including television series, mini-series, made-for-TV movies and specials (including, but not limited to, stand-up specials and music performances).
Also eligible are movies that are directly part of the continuity of eligible content. If you are uncertain, please ask in the discussion thread!
This is not a challenge pitting your final view count against anyone else's. You're fighting your own schedule and capacity for gorging on TV content. You are therefore welcome to count your viewing totals however you wish, as it will only matter to you.
Remember also that 1 January overlaps with the Holiday Challenge, so if you've got any Holiday-themed TV content you want to squeeze in, it counts for both challenges on that day.
* The emphasis of this challenge should be to explore the impact that the DVD format has had on how we view TV content, but you are not restricted to the DVD format. You may watch your content on VHS, Blu-ray, over-the-air broadcast, digital download, online streaming; whatever format suits you.


Don't forget to check out the TV Talk (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/tv-talk-14/) sub-forum, where you may very well find other fans of the shows you choose to watch during the challenge!

Travis McClain
12-03-14, 08:44 AM
When we left off last year, we had raised the matter of debating the inclusion of movie serials and web shows. The initial reaction seemed to dismiss the former but accept the latter, at least conditionally. I'd like to revisit that discussion.

I'd also like to pick your brains about the checklist. Last year seemed to have the most favorable reaction/use that I've seen in this challenge so far for a checklist, though there were a few issues raised about some sections being a bit demanding.

I'd also love to hear any other suggestions or requests that participants have going into our fifth season of the TV on DVD* Challenge! Each year is a little different than the last, and it's because of the collaborative nature of honing the challenge. We've had lots of terrific ideas over the previous years come from different participants. So if you're back for your fifth go, or a rookie just considering dabbling in it, be sure to speak up so we can help make this as satisfying a challenge for you as we can!

And oh, by the way...there will be prizes!

Trevor
12-03-14, 09:17 AM
First!

shadokitty
12-03-14, 10:04 AM
2nd. And I just want to say I can't wait. I've been thinking about this challenge for a while, as it is one of my favorite challenges.

davidh777
12-03-14, 10:23 AM
When we left off last year, we had raised the matter of debating the inclusion of movie serials and web shows. The initial reaction seemed to dismiss the former but accept the latter, at least conditionally. I'd like to revisit that discussion.

I haven't changed my mind from the stated opinion. :D

Ash Ketchum
12-03-14, 10:55 AM
I've been watching episodes of "Space Sheriff Gavan" and "Ultra Q," so it will be nice to continue doing so in the context of a challenge, as well as adding eight more Japanese series I want to get through, not to mention all the TV western box sets I picked up last year or earlier this year, not to mention all the anime series I have yet to get through ("Space Adventure Cobra," here I come!), not to mention...etc.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
12-03-14, 11:35 AM
I'm against serials counting since they were things you had to go to a theater to watch.

Web shows should count. The people making them would be happy to have them on TV but none of them are good enough to make it to even the worst channel in TV history.

Since October I've been working my way through Dark Shadows and I'll still be in it come the challenge.

Trevor
12-03-14, 11:54 AM
I'm against serials counting since they were things you had to go to a theater to watch.

Web shows should count.

Since October I've been working my way through Dark Shadows and I'll still be in it come the 2023 challenge.
Agreed with the first two points and fixed on the last.

BobO'Link
12-03-14, 12:19 PM
I'm against serials (and am a *huge* fan of the genre) as they were originally theatrical. I know lots of them aired on TV as that's where I got my first taste, but they were typically in half hour blocks with commercials.

That brings up: Do we allow The Three Stooges, The Little Rascals (Our Gang), and Looney Tunes shorts? I know the Looney tunes which aired within the confines of The Bugs Bunny Show and other Saturday AM fare are OK *if* watched in one of those programs but until the serial question came up I'd never considered using/counting any of those. Yeah... I watched them all on weekday hosted kids programs but they, too, had origins in the movie theater.

I'm somewhat on the fence with Web Shows. But I'm also on the fence about "live" TV as well unless it's strictly viewed for a "Watch a Live TV program" checklist item. That's because the challenge is the "TV on DVD" Challenge which pretty much says watch content on disc.

Should I be ashamed to admit that I watched mostly TVonDVD content for the comedy challenge? Its rules are more lax and it uses "easy" counting so I took advantage of that to get in more TV content within the confines of a challenge. :)

davidh777
12-03-14, 12:24 PM
I think serials are best suited to the B movie challenge.

I'm also on the fence about "live" TV as well unless it's strictly viewed for a "Watch a Live TV program" checklist item. That's because the challenge is the "TV on DVD" Challenge which pretty much says watch content on disc.

That's why there's an asterisk in the name. :)

* The emphasis of this challenge should be to explore the impact that the DVD format has had on how we view TV content, but you are not restricted to the DVD format. You may watch your content on VHS, Blu-ray, over-the-air broadcast, digital download, online streaming; whatever format suits you.

shadokitty
12-03-14, 12:33 PM
Web Shows I think are ok, but I'm against serials too. I'd also like clarification on what was stated earlier about Three Stooges, Little rascals and various cartoons, as to whether they should be allowed or not. Also is sports considered made for tv, or live that just happens to air on tv?

coyoteblue
12-03-14, 02:45 PM
Count me against serials, too. Web only shows, I'm for. You've got stuff like Deadbeat on Hulu, Bravest Warriors on youtube and the upcoming Marvel shows (Daredevil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, etc...) that are Netflix only. For that matter how about anime OAVs? Would they be kosher?

Ash Ketchum
12-03-14, 03:15 PM
Over the years, I've brought duplicate DVDs to my office to have stuff to watch here and I just counted the number of TV on DVD discs on my shelf and they add up to...106 episodes! In less than a foot of shelf space.

BobO'Link
12-03-14, 03:50 PM
That's why there's an asterisk in the name. :)
Yes, I know... but the purist in me says it's just wrong. :lol:

EdTheRipper
12-03-14, 04:25 PM
Should I be ashamed to admit that I watched mostly TVonDVD content for the comedy challenge? Its rules are more lax and it uses "easy" counting so I took advantage of that to get in more TV content within the confines of a challenge. :)

I did the same thing, and have in the past as well. I love comedies, but I find them easier to digest in 22 minute blocks.

I am looking forward to the TV challenge, as I have quite a few series that I've started and never finished. I'm also contemplating rewatching stuff like Freaks and Geeks, Undeclared, and Scrubs.

Ash Ketchum
12-03-14, 04:27 PM
Don't forget that there's tons of obscure TV shows on YouTube. Check out this guy's channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg20H9V7xy2nzMSb2nOs1gQ/videos

He's got hundreds of TV eps. from the 1950s, '60s, and '70s, including many shows you've never heard of before.

In fact, I'd like to suggest that the checklist include finding a TV series you never heard of before on YouTube and watching at least one episode.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
12-03-14, 04:29 PM
Agreed with the first two points and fixed on the last.

I'm actually a decent way through it. Somewhere around episode 262, so I just have under a thousand more to go through plus all the discs with bonus stuff. Then I'll also go back through the earlier discs for the interviews.

I just finished the wedding/blackmail arc last night. Last week I slowed down some because I was getting really tired of episode after episode of "Your name isn't Maggie Evens anymore" and getting tricked into thinking someone would find out what happened or she'd escape only to find out it doesn't happen and it goes back to more of the same.

shadokitty
12-03-14, 05:43 PM
I'm actually a decent way through it. Somewhere around episode 262, so I just have under a thousand more to go through plus all the discs with bonus stuff. Then I'll also go back through the earlier discs for the interviews.

I just finished the wedding/blackmail arc last night. Last week I slowed down some because I was getting really tired of episode after episode of "Your name isn't Maggie Evens anymore" and getting tricked into thinking someone would find out what happened or she'd escape only to find out it doesn't happen and it goes back to more of the same.

Has Barnabas showed up yet? I don't remember much about the show as I was pretty young when it was on, but I recall reading somewhere that Barnabas wasn't brought in until later when ratings were dropping.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
12-03-14, 06:23 PM
Has Barnabas showed up yet? I don't remember much about the show as I was pretty young when it was on, but I recall reading somewhere that Barnabas wasn't brought in until later when ratings were dropping.

210 or 212 but I'm leaning towards the former. The series starts off fairly normal, for a soap, with attempted murder, murder, kidnapping, a ghost, a phoenix (in human form), blackmail and then the vampire Barnabas. They're good at ending each episode at mini-cliffhangers, for lack of a better term. Once I get going on them, it's easy to sit through 3 or more hours in a sitting.

The actor playing Barnabas is good but of course they need to do the thing with animals and people losing their blood in a mysterious way. They do a 15 minute recap of the episodes before Barnabas shows up, since people getting into it now seem to just start there. I didn't think it was all that bad up to him showing up.

I bought the coffin set as a blind buy and I think it was worth it, especially if you consider how much other people spent before that buy they were buying all the DVD and VHS sets. At a quick glance at amazon, there's 6 sets before Barnabas and then 25 after he shows up and they're all above $20, while the coffin is a bit over $300. The coffin is under half the price of the other sets combined.

It also doesn't hurt that I bought two of the collectors editions and sold one of them for more than double of what I paid for just one of them :)

LorenzoL
12-03-14, 06:40 PM
I'm in! I have been saving both current and old shows to watch for the January challenge. As usual, I have tons of shows to watch but I have cut down on my buying tremendously this year which I'm very proud of.

I want to tackle Arrow S2 and S3, along with the new Flash, Mazinger Z, Golden Girls and Gatchaman.

LJG765
12-03-14, 07:59 PM
I'm in as well! I am planning on trying to watch a lot of my TV Trek, mainly Enterprise and I have two seasons of TNG plus some fan picked box sets that have a lot random episodes. Two Sci-Fi challenges ago, Travis and I went through TOS and I've been working through the movies as well, so focusing on Enterprise is the next step for me.

As for the serials/webisodes, I agree with most everyone else. Yes to webisodes, no to serials.

Greg MacGuffin
12-03-14, 08:13 PM
Count me in. Maybe I'll get to Breaking Bad this year.

And I'll add my vote against counting serials.

Trevor
12-03-14, 08:31 PM
I think 2015 may be the year that I watch only TV shows for the Challenges. I'll need a dozen years of that to get thru my backlog.

Travis McClain
12-03-14, 09:16 PM
Also is sports considered made for tv, or live that just happens to air on tv?

I'm going to add Sports to the Genres section of the checklist (see below). Sports content has always been important for TV - and vice versa. Prime time TV ratings were directly responsible for the advent of night baseball, after all.

The consensus against serials is strong enough that I'm content to close the book on that matter (for now, anyway!). As for the shorts that were recycled for TV, I'll let y'all kick that around some more.

Are there any checklist requests or suggestions?

Optional Checklist
()/5 Pilots and Movies and Series, Oh, My!
--- Watch a Pilot Episode -OR- a Movie that spawned a TV Show -
--- Watch a Made for TV Movie -OR- a Movie that continues a TV Show -
--- Watch a Mini-Series -OR- a "Short Runner" (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShortRunners) (Series That Was Canceled During Its First Season) -
--- Watch a Complete Season (minimum 13 episodes) -
--- Watch an Emmy Award (http://www.emmys.com/awards/nominations/award-search) winner (any category, but episode MUST be from awarded season) -OR- one of the Most Watched Television Broadcasts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_watched_television_broadcasts) -

()/10 Tropes
--- Watch an episode Directed by a Main Cast Member (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DirectedByCastMember) -
--- Watch at least one episode from a season of a show after it was un-canceled (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnCanceled) -
--- Watch an episode in which a Main Character dies -
--- Watch an episode that introduces a new Main Character -
--- Watch an episode in which the Actor/Actress changes but Character remains the same (voice work for animation also counts) -
--- Watch a Deleted or Extended Scene (bonus feature) -
--- Watch an episode where the show goes on vacation -
--- Watch a Bottle Episode (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BottleEpisode) -
--- Watch a Ratings Stunt (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RatingsStunt) -
--- Watch a Required Spinoff Crossover (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RequiredSpinoffCrossover) -

()/10 Genres
--- Action/Adventure - Show
--- Anthology Series - Show
--- Comedy - Show
--- Competition - Show
--- Dom(estic) Com(edy) (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DomCom) - Show
--- Documentary - Show
--- Drama - Show
--- Food and Cooking - Show
--- Game Show - Show
--- Historical - Show
--- Horror - Show
--- News Magazine - Show
--- Paranormal - Show
--- Police Procedural ("Cop Show") - Show
--- Reality - Show
--- Romance - Show
--- Satire - Show
--- Sci-Fi/Fantasy - Show
--- Sports - Game
--- Travelogue - Show
--- Variety/Talk Show (Daytime or Late Night) - Show
--- Western - Show
--- Work Com (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WorkCom) - Show

()/5 Networks
--- Network 1 - Show
--- Network 2 - Show
--- Network 3 - Show
--- Network 4 - Show
--- Network 5 - Show

()/5 Decades
--- 1930 - Show
--- 1940 - Show
--- 1950 - Show
--- 1960 - Show
--- 1970 - Show
--- 1980 - Show
--- 1990 - Show
--- 2000 - Show
--- 2010 - Show

()/3 Formats
--- Format 1 - Show
--- Format 2 - Show
--- Format 3 - Show

()/3 Advanced Level: For Hardcore Couch Potato
--- Watch a Complete Series (minimum, 100 episodes) - Show
--- Complete the checklist using only Emmy Award (http://www.emmys.com/awards/nominations/award-search) winners
--- Complete the checklist without counting any viewed content more than once

bacigalup
12-03-14, 11:32 PM
Will use this month to go back into watching Naked City & The Untouchables.

Don't forget that there's tons of obscure TV shows on YouTube. Check out this guy's channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg20H9V7xy2nzMSb2nOs1gQ/videos

He's got hundreds of TV eps. from the 1950s, '60s, and '70s, including many shows you've never heard of before.

In fact, I'd like to suggest that the checklist include finding a TV series you never heard of before on YouTube and watching at least one episode.

Thanks for posting this. Already watched a Christmas episode for the Holiday challenge, "Christmas Day Is Breaking Wan" from a show called Channing from the 1963-64 season. According to IMDB, this was a 1 season 26 episode series about life on a fictitious college named Channing, & it starred, amongst others, Henry Jones as the college dean.

Funny thing about this episode is that, again according to IMDB, it was broadcast on April Fool's day, 1964! Yikes!!

Travis:

What about adding Animation as a genre? Lots of great toon shows made for TV (Flintstones, Rocky & Bullwinkle et al).

Travis McClain
12-03-14, 11:39 PM
Travis:

What about adding Animation as a genre? Lots of great toon shows made for TV (Flintstones, Rocky & Bullwinkle et al).

Animation is a medium, rather than a genre, so you can watch any animated shows and count them under whichever genres are appropriate. The Flintstones, for instance, would count as a DomCom. Rocky & Bullwinkle could count for Satire, or for Variety Show.

shadokitty
12-04-14, 06:46 AM
Wow, not even the 2nd full day and already on page 2. I love all this discussion.

Trevor
12-04-14, 07:18 AM
Wow, not even the 2nd full day and already on page 2. I love all this discussion.
We're barely halfway thru page one newbie!

bacigalup
12-04-14, 08:02 AM
Animation is a medium, rather than a genre, so you can watch any animated shows and count them under whichever genres are appropriate. The Flintstones, for instance, would count as a DomCom. Rocky & Bullwinkle could count for Satire, or for Variety Show.

Yep, makes perfect sense to me!

1 more suggestion:
A "1st Broadcast" option where you watch an episode of a TV series or special that was first shown on that day. 31 days in January, beaucoup amounts of shows.

Travis McClain
12-04-14, 09:01 AM
Yep, makes perfect sense to me!

1 more suggestion:
A "1st Broadcast" option where you watch an episode of a TV series or special that was first shown on that day. 31 days in January, beaucoup amounts of shows.

Without commenting on the appeal or my personal interest in this idea, I took a quick look at my library. Here are my qualifying episodes, just as an off-the-cuff microcosm:

1/01 1990 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The Defector"
1/01 2010 Batman: The Brave and the Bold "Revenge of the Reach!"
1/02 1981 The Dukes of Hazzard "Good Neighbors, Duke"
1/03 1955 Sherlock Holmes "The Case of the Shoeless Engineer"
1/03 1969 Star Trek "Whom Gods Destroy"
1/04 1980 The Dukes of Hazzard "Duke of Duke"
1/05 1967 Star Trek "The Galileo Seven"
1/05 1968 Star Trek "The Gamesters of Triskelion"
1/05 1974 Star Trek: The Animated Series "The Eye of the Beholder"
1/06 1992 Star Trek: The Next Generation "New Ground"
1/07 1991 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Data's Day"
1/08 1990 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The Hunted"
1/08 2006 The Boondocks "The Real"
1/09 1981 The Dukes of Hazzard "State of the County"
1/09 1989 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Loud as a Whisper"
1/09 2009 Psych "Six Feet Under the Sea"
1/10 1955 Sherlock Holmes "The Case of the Split Ticket"
1/10 1969 Star Trek "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"
1/10 1993 Batman: The Animated Series "The Laughing Fish"
1/10 1999 Batman Beyond "Rebirth" Parts I & II
1/10 1999 The Sopranos "The Sopranos"
1/11 1980 The Dukes of Hazzard "The Runaway"
1/11 1988 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The Big Goodbye"
1/11 2008 Psych "There's Something About Mira"
1/12 1967 Star Trek "The Squire of Gothos"
1/12 1968 Star Trek "A Piece of the Action"
1/12 1974 Star Trek: The Animated Series "The Jihad"
1/15 1975 Little House on the Prairie "Family Quarrel"
1/15 2006 The Boondocks "Return of the King"
1/16 1959 USO All-Star Christmas Show
1/16 1981 The Dukes of Hazzard "The Legacy"
1/16 1999 Batman: The Animated Series "Mad Love"
1/16 1999 Superman: The Animated Series "Absolute Power"
1/16 2000 The Sopranos "'Guy Walks Into a Psychiatrist's Office...'"
1/16 2009 Psych "Lassie Did a Bad, Bad Thing"
1/17 1955 Sherlock Holmes "The Case of the French Interpreter"
1/17 1969 Star Trek "The Mark of Gideon"
1/17 1992 This Is Garth Brooks!
1/17 1999 The Sopranos "46 Long"
1/18 1980 The Dukes of Hazzard "Follow That Still"
1/18 1988 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Datalore"
1/18 1993 Batman: The Animated Series "Harley and Ivy"
1/18 2008 Psych "The Old and the Restless"
1/19 1967 Star Trek "Arena"
1/19 1968 Star Trek "The Immunity Syndrome"
1/19 2007 Psych "Forget Me Not"
1/21 2008 The Boondocks "The S-Word"
1/22 1975 Little House on the Prairie "Doctor's Lady"
1/22 2005 Justice League Unlimited "The Once and Future Thing, Part I: Weird Western Tales"
1/22 2006 The Boondocks "The Itis"
1/22 2009 Burn Notice "Do No Harm"
1/23 1981 The Dukes of Hazzard "Duke vs. Duke"
1/23 1985 ThunderCats "Exodus", "The Unholy Alliance"
1/23 1989 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The Schizoid Man"
1/23 2000 The Sopranos "Do Not Resuscitate"
1/23 2009 Psych "Earth, Wind and,,, Wait for It"
1/24 1955 Sherlock Holmes "The Case of the Singing Violin"
1/24 1969 Star Trek "That Which Survives"
1/24 1993 Batman: The Animated Series "The Mechanic"
1/24 1999 The Sopranos "Denial, Anger, Acceptance"
1/25 1980 The Dukes of Hazzard "Treasure of Hazzard"
1/25 1988 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Angel One"
1/25 2008 Psych "Lights, Camera...Homicidio"
1/26 1967 Star Trek "Tomorrow Is Yesterday"
1/26 1979 The Dukes of Hazzard "One-Armed Bandits"
1/26 2007 Psych "From the Earth to the Starbucks"
1/27 1992 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Hero Worship"
1/27 2010 Psych "You Can't Handle This Episode"
1/28 1991 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The Wounded"
1/28 2008 The Boondocks "The Story of Catcher Freeman"
1/29 1975 Little House on the Prairie "Plague"
1/29 1990 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The High Ground"
1/29 2005 Justice League Unlimited "The Once and Future Thing, Part II: Time, Warped"
1/29 2009 Burn Notice "Hot Spot"
1/30 1981 The Dukes of Hazzard "My Son, Bo Hogg"
1/30 1989 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Unnatural Selection"
1/30 1999 Batman Beyond "Black Out"
1/30 2000 The Sopranos "Toodle-Fucking-Oo"
1/30 2009 Psych "Any Given Friday Night at 10pm, 9pm Central"
1/31 1955 Sherlock Holmes "The Case of the Greystone Inscription"
1/31 1969 Star Trek "The Lights of Zetar"
1/31 1999 The Sopranos "Meadowlands"

shadokitty
12-04-14, 09:18 AM
Without commenting on the appeal or my personal interest in this idea, I took a quick look at my library. Here are my qualifying episodes, just as an off-the-cuff microcosm:

1/01 1990 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The Defector"
1/01 2010 Batman: The Brave and the Bold "Revenge of the Reach!"
1/02 1981 The Dukes of Hazzard "Good Neighbors, Duke"
1/03 1955 Sherlock Holmes "The Case of the Shoeless Engineer"
1/03 1969 Star Trek "Whom Gods Destroy"
1/04 1980 The Dukes of Hazzard "Duke of Duke"
1/05 1967 Star Trek "The Galileo Seven"
1/05 1968 Star Trek "The Gamesters of Triskelion"
1/05 1974 Star Trek: The Animated Series "The Eye of the Beholder"
1/06 1992 Star Trek: The Next Generation "New Ground"
1/07 1991 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Data's Day"
1/08 1990 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The Hunted"
1/08 2006 The Boondocks "The Real"
1/09 1981 The Dukes of Hazzard "State of the County"
1/09 1989 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Loud as a Whisper"
1/09 2009 Psych "Six Feet Under the Sea"
1/10 1955 Sherlock Holmes "The Case of the Split Ticket"
1/10 1969 Star Trek "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"
1/10 1993 Batman: The Animated Series "The Laughing Fish"
1/10 1999 Batman Beyond "Rebirth" Parts I & II
1/10 1999 The Sopranos "The Sopranos"
1/11 1980 The Dukes of Hazzard "The Runaway"
1/11 1988 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The Big Goodbye"
1/11 2008 Psych "There's Something About Mira"
1/12 1967 Star Trek "The Squire of Gothos"
1/12 1968 Star Trek "A Piece of the Action"
1/12 1974 Star Trek: The Animated Series "The Jihad"
1/15 1975 Little House on the Prairie "Family Quarrel"
1/15 2006 The Boondocks "Return of the King"
1/16 1959 USO All-Star Christmas Show
1/16 1981 The Dukes of Hazzard "The Legacy"
1/16 1999 Batman: The Animated Series "Mad Love"
1/16 1999 Superman: The Animated Series "Absolute Power"
1/16 2000 The Sopranos "'Guy Walks Into a Psychiatrist's Office...'"
1/16 2009 Psych "Lassie Did a Bad, Bad Thing"
1/17 1955 Sherlock Holmes "The Case of the French Interpreter"
1/17 1969 Star Trek "The Mark of Gideon"
1/17 1992 This Is Garth Brooks!
1/17 1999 The Sopranos "46 Long"
1/18 1980 The Dukes of Hazzard "Follow That Still"
1/18 1988 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Datalore"
1/18 1993 Batman: The Animated Series "Harley and Ivy"
1/18 2008 Psych "The Old and the Restless"
1/19 1967 Star Trek "Arena"
1/19 1968 Star Trek "The Immunity Syndrome"
1/19 2007 Psych "Forget Me Not"
1/21 2008 The Boondocks "The S-Word"
1/22 1975 Little House on the Prairie "Doctor's Lady"
1/22 2005 Justice League Unlimited "The Once and Future Thing, Part I: Weird Western Tales"
1/22 2006 The Boondocks "The Itis"
1/22 2009 Burn Notice "Do No Harm"
1/23 1981 The Dukes of Hazzard "Duke vs. Duke"
1/23 1985 ThunderCats "Exodus", "The Unholy Alliance"
1/23 1989 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The Schizoid Man"
1/23 2000 The Sopranos "Do Not Resuscitate"
1/23 2009 Psych "Earth, Wind and,,, Wait for It"
1/24 1955 Sherlock Holmes "The Case of the Singing Violin"
1/24 1969 Star Trek "That Which Survives"
1/24 1993 Batman: The Animated Series "The Mechanic"
1/24 1999 The Sopranos "Denial, Anger, Acceptance"
1/25 1980 The Dukes of Hazzard "Treasure of Hazzard"
1/25 1988 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Angel One"
1/25 2008 Psych "Lights, Camera...Homicidio"
1/26 1967 Star Trek "Tomorrow Is Yesterday"
1/26 1979 The Dukes of Hazzard "One-Armed Bandits"
1/26 2007 Psych "From the Earth to the Starbucks"
1/27 1992 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Hero Worship"
1/27 2010 Psych "You Can't Handle This Episode"
1/28 1991 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The Wounded"
1/28 2008 The Boondocks "The Story of Catcher Freeman"
1/29 1975 Little House on the Prairie "Plague"
1/29 1990 Star Trek: The Next Generation "The High Ground"
1/29 2005 Justice League Unlimited "The Once and Future Thing, Part II: Time, Warped"
1/29 2009 Burn Notice "Hot Spot"
1/30 1981 The Dukes of Hazzard "My Son, Bo Hogg"
1/30 1989 Star Trek: The Next Generation "Unnatural Selection"
1/30 1999 Batman Beyond "Black Out"
1/30 2000 The Sopranos "Toodle-Fucking-Oo"
1/30 2009 Psych "Any Given Friday Night at 10pm, 9pm Central"
1/31 1955 Sherlock Holmes "The Case of the Greystone Inscription"
1/31 1969 Star Trek "The Lights of Zetar"
1/31 1999 The Sopranos "Meadowlands"

I can get some of those shows on Netflix.

shadokitty
12-04-14, 09:22 AM
I just mentioned this challenge in the TV Talk subforum as a way of advertising it, and possibly getting more participants who wouldn't have known about the challenge otherwise.

BobO'Link
12-04-14, 12:15 PM
I'm in as well! I am planning on trying to watch a lot of my TV Trek, mainly Enterprise and I have two seasons of TNG...
Will use this month to go back into watching Naked City & The Untouchables.
I've considered all of those - I have 1 (<s>or is it 2?</s> just checked - it's 1) season of Enterprise left to view (It's much better than some would have you believe) and I finally caved and purchased S1 & S2 of TNG a few months back, I've watched a half dozen or so Naked City episodes just to see if I liked it (I do) since it was a blind buy (I was too young to watch it during the original run), plus I have 1 volume of The Untouchables I picked up from BL a couple (or more) years ago sitting here unopened. My problem is every time I go to pick a series I'll think "Oooo... I should save that one for the (fill in the blank for the appropriate theme) challenge" and not watch. Then the appropriate challenge arrives and I watch everything *but* what I held back on with this challenge! There's just not enough time in the day, much less a month, to watch everything I'd like to work in!

shadokitty
12-04-14, 12:26 PM
The majority of my DVDs are TV sets, so I have a lot to watch. I'm considering working on my BBC nature documentaries, my Dogfights series set, and perhaps some Ancient Aliens, as I have seasons 1-4 of that series. I also have an Ozzie and Harriet dvd set, and Leave it to Beaver, season 4 through Amazon video, plus many cartoons, and action/sci fi series.

lisadoris
12-04-14, 05:56 PM
I'm certainly in as I'm in the middle of my David Simon viewings: I finished re-watching Homicide: Life on the Street (best show ever) before Thanksgiving and just started re-watching The Wire. I should be ready to start my first viewing of Treme for this challenge. I think Amazon released S2 of Alpha House so that's on the table too.

mcline87
12-04-14, 08:45 PM
Excited for this challenge!! I have tons of tv shows I have been waiting to watch for this challenge. To name a few: Fargo Season 1, Firefly Complete Series, Friday Night Lights Seasons 2-5, Hannibal Season 2, Modern Family Season 5, Revolution Season 1, Shameless Season 2-3 (maybe 4 if I buy it), Sons of Anarchy Season 2-6, Spartacus Seasons 2-4, Veronica Mars Season 1-3, The Walking Dead Seasons 3-4!

Not to mention I need to finish Friday Night Lights Season 1, Sleepy Hollow Season 1 and The Walking Dead Season 2! And in case that wasn't enough I have American Horror Story: Freak Show and The Walking Dead Season 5 on DVR! That's not including Netflix or Amazon Prime! UGH so many shows so little time!!

Ash Ketchum
12-05-14, 01:30 PM
I've considered all of those - I have 1 (<s>or is it 2?</s> just checked - it's 1) season of Enterprise left to view (It's much better than some would have you believe) and I finally caved and purchased S1 & S2 of TNG a few months back, I've watched a half dozen or so Naked City episodes just to see if I liked it (I do) since it was a blind buy (I was too young to watch it during the original run), plus I have 1 volume of The Untouchables I picked up from BL a couple (or more) years ago sitting here unopened. My problem is every time I go to pick a series I'll think "Oooo... I should save that one for the (fill in the blank for the appropriate theme) challenge" and not watch. Then the appropriate challenge arrives and I watch everything *but* what I held back on with this challenge! There's just not enough time in the day, much less a month, to watch everything I'd like to work in!

I have the same problem. I always pick specific series as goals for the month of January and then I just get lost in random choices off the shelf, which leads me in different directions, or YouTube discoveries and the like.

HyperWeather
12-06-14, 02:36 AM
I got through S1-3 of Supernatural in October and have been itching to get back to that, so that will probably be the main thing I watch. Along with the non comedy shows that I've been ignoring on my tivo the past few months.

Travis McClain
12-06-14, 05:38 AM
Incidentally, for those who stream: Sony is offering Justified Season Five (http://www.sonypicturesstore.com/episodicproduct.html?productId=135595) free right now, in HD. UltraViolet-compliant. I learned about it just now from a Fat Wallet tweet.

shadokitty
12-06-14, 11:29 AM
In anticipation of the challenge, I've started rewatching some of my BBC Nature documentaries, as I love them, and have no problem watching them again for the challenge.

Dimension X
12-06-14, 01:30 PM
Incidentally, for those who stream: Sony is offering Justified Season Five (http://www.sonypicturesstore.com/episodicproduct.html?productId=135595) free right now, in HD. UltraViolet-compliant. I learned about it just now from a Fat Wallet tweet.

I'm not seeing a way to watch it/redeem it/buy it/anything. I created a Sony account and linked it to my UV account. :shrug: Guess I'll just wait and get the DVDs from Netflix. Thanks anyway.

EDIT: I tried Firefox, IE, and Chrome and never got the "buy" or whatever buttons to show for Justified (any season). Guess I missed out on it.

shadokitty
12-06-14, 01:59 PM
I just bought an Amazon Fire Phone through Amazon and AT&T and it comes with a free year of Prime, so that will help a lot.

mrcellophane
12-08-14, 01:00 PM
I'm excited for this challenge, but I don't have any plans yet. I do have a couple rewatches in progress. This might be the right time to get back to One Tree Hill or True Blood.

I've got so many television box sets in my unwatched pile. However, I've been trying to get rid of some stuff - mostly fat-cutting.

shadokitty
12-09-14, 10:41 AM
I just want to say that I can't wait for this Challenge to begin. I've been watching a lot of tv lately, and it will be even better when I can watch it as part of a challenge. This is one of my favorite challenges, and my 2nd challenge I ever joined.

Travis McClain
12-09-14, 11:23 AM
Proposed additions to the Tropes section of the checklist:

--- Watch a Sick Episode (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SickEpisode) - Show
--- Watch an episode featuring an Actor Allusion (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ActorAllusion) - Show
--- Watch an episode featuring an Evil Twin (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilTwin) or Evil Counterpart (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilCounterpart) - Show
--- Watch an episode filmed in front of a live studio audience - Show
--- Watch an episode in which someone Came Back Wrong (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CameBackWrong) - Show

Thoughts?

shadokitty
12-09-14, 12:29 PM
Proposed additions to the Tropes section of the checklist:

--- Watch a Sick Episode (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SickEpisode) - Show
--- Watch an episode featuring an Actor Allusion (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ActorAllusion) - Show
--- Watch an episode featuring an Evil Twin (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilTwin) or Evil Counterpart (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilCounterpart) - Show
--- Watch an episode filmed in front of a live studio audience - Show
--- Watch an episode in which someone Came Back Wrong (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CameBackWrong) - Show

Thoughts?

While I don't plan to do the checklist, so this is an opinion of an outsider so to speak, those tropes look like good additions.

BobO'Link
12-09-14, 12:54 PM
I've already started... I just can't get into a Holiday Movie/Program watching mode so I've been catching up on some TVonDVD. Last night I started S6 of Deep Space Nine.

Travis McClain
12-09-14, 01:21 PM
I'm skipping the Holiday Challenge this year; so far, I'm pretty much skipping the whole season, really. A few days ago, I started making my way through Superman: The Animated Series on DVD. I just finished Volume Two this morning, and expect to have Volume Three finished as early as tomorrow. I wasn't a regular watcher when it was on originally, though I caught probably half of it at the time.

I have to confess to being disappointed overall so far. The storytelling just isn't nearly as sophisticated as it was on Batman: The Animated Series. Character is a distant second to action, which consists of a whole lot of throwing into/through buildings, electrocutions, and missiles being diverted into the harbor. There are a few gems on the Volume Two set, but I didn't really love anything on Volume One. I'll have more detailed thoughts once I finish Volume Three. I'll go ahead and post this, though; this is a screen cap from the pop-up trivia track for the episode "A Little Piece of Home":

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZCT3P862Tfw/VIc9TUfO7ZI/AAAAAAAAgWo/lG32sMXhWPk/w724-h553-no/STAS%2B05%2BA%2BLittle%2BPiece%2Bof%2BHome%2Btrivia%2BDinosaurs%2Bare%2Bcool.jpg

shadokitty
12-09-14, 01:27 PM
I have Superman: The Animated Series on DVD too. Maybe I'll catch some episodes.

shadokitty
12-09-14, 02:27 PM
I've already started... I just can't get into a Holiday Movie/Program watching mode so I've been catching up on some TVonDVD. Last night I started S6 of Deep Space Nine.

Things are very stressful for me this year, and as a result, I've not really been able to get into much of a holiday watching mood this year either.

BobO'Link
12-09-14, 03:39 PM
I, too, have Superman: The Animated Series V1 on DVD. I only purchased V1 to see if I liked it before springing for the entire series. I picked it up some time back hoping for a series as good/fun as Batman: TAS since it looked fairly similar and has decent reviews. I really should have watched it during the Animation challenge 'cause I don't think I'll try to make time in January as Travis' comments make me want to put it on the back burner. It doesn't help that I have dozens of unopened TV seasons from which to choose.

coyoteblue
12-09-14, 04:06 PM
Superman: The Animated Series is perhaps more important for setting up plot points for JL/JLU; basically all the Apokolips/Darkseid episodes. "Unity" in season three is pretty good. Batman Beyond is better than Superman: The Animated Series, all things considered.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
12-09-14, 04:06 PM
Proposed additions to the Tropes section of the checklist:

--- Watch a Sick Episode (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SickEpisode) - Show
--- Watch an episode featuring an Actor Allusion (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ActorAllusion) - Show
--- Watch an episode featuring an Evil Twin (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilTwin) or Evil Counterpart (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilCounterpart) - Show
--- Watch an episode filmed in front of a live studio audience - Show
--- Watch an episode in which someone Came Back Wrong (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CameBackWrong) - Show

Thoughts?

I like stuff like this but it wouldn't be something I'd go out of my way to do. I think most people focus on a few series at most and watch in some sort of order, so the only way they'd hit any of these are when the stars align. On the other hand, if someone wanted a break from a series, it could be fun to find some other show they aren't watching and revisit for one of these items.

davidh777
12-09-14, 04:20 PM
I like stuff like this but it wouldn't be something I'd go out of my way to do. I think most people focus on a few series at most and watch in some sort of order, so the only way they'd hit any of these are when the stars align. On the other hand, if someone wanted a break from a series, it could be fun to find some other show they aren't watching and revisit for one of these items.

I agree that the categories are fun, but that the gorging nature of this challenge might not be the best match. One-offs might work better for movies, but on the other hand, they're good for TV because you can probably get a check in only 22 minutes.

Then again, I haven't done a checklist in a while so I may not be the best source. :p

LorenzoL
12-09-14, 09:29 PM
I haven't truly started watching my shows just yet but I'll be off work in one and half weeks, in which time I plan to spend watching some of my tv shows. I'm not planning to count them for the challenge but I'll be discussing it in this thread.

I have been rewatching episodes of Psych and I can never get tired of it. Mind you I have been watching the early seasons and I have yet to watch S8 as I'm waiting for it to show up on Netflix. I wasn't too crazy about S7 specially the Musical. That Bollywood episode stills cracks me up specially the dinner scene.

Travis McClain
12-09-14, 10:53 PM
I like stuff like this but it wouldn't be something I'd go out of my way to do. I think most people focus on a few series at most and watch in some sort of order, so the only way they'd hit any of these are when the stars align. On the other hand, if someone wanted a break from a series, it could be fun to find some other show they aren't watching and revisit for one of these items.

It seems to me your remarks are really about not caring about a checklist at all, which is fine but it's also a separate conversation from whether or not the checklist that exists is of interest to those who use it. I personally don't use the checklist in this challenge and didn't intend there to even be one, but during the second year when I was absent, one was created and it's sort of stuck around.

Travis McClain
12-10-14, 10:55 AM
I discovered early this morning that my Superman: The Animated Series Volume Three set was mis-manufactured: the Disc 1 contents and the Disc 2, Side A contents are swapped. This was a gift from a friend last December, bought new from Amazon. I didn't even open the shrink wrap until this morning. Whomp.

I read up on it and it seems that release was harangued by manufacturing errors. Some sets shipped with two Disc 2's. Some had glitches in specific episodes. Some came packaged with red Kryptonite that turned the buyers into simians. (That last one isn't confirmed, but I'm willing to take it at face value.) So in case you happen to own this set but haven't actually scoped it out, you may want to at least pop in your discs and take a look at the menu screens to confirm you have all 18 episodes. Thankfully, my set is complete even though two-thirds of it is in the wrong place.

Ash Ketchum
12-10-14, 11:31 AM
Over the last few days, I've watched episodes of "Ultra Seven" (1967) and "Space Sheriff Gavan" (1982), two Japanese tokusatsu (live-action sci-fi superhero) series. Great stuff. An "Ultra Seven" two-parter had a couple of white characters in it, one a scientist (played by a beautiful blonde) and one a suspected alien spy. Neither turns out to be what they seem. It came out at a time when it was okay to show U.S.-Japanese cooperation in Japanese pop culture. One of the "Gavan" episodes adapts the classic Japanese folk tale, "Urashima Taro," to its sci-fi alien combat setting. Kenji Oba (Sonny Chiba's protege) stars as Gavan and does all his own stunts and fighting.

I also watched a couple of VHS tapes I picked up years ago that offer compilations of monster battles from the various "Ultraman" TV series. I just wish I could identify which shows/episodes each clip came from. Here's a relevant clip:


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mrcellophane
12-10-14, 11:58 AM
I received an early Christmas present: the complete series of Kings. I was very excited about the concept of the show and watched the pilot. Halfway through, I realized that this series would not make it, but I doggedly watched all the episodes that ended up airing and was sad when the cancellation declaration was issued.

My first taste of this feeling was Earth 2 which I obsessed over when I was a kid. I couldn't believe that some corporate idiots decided we didn't need years and years of these characters and this weird planet. More recently, I experienced this with Jericho and Pushing Daisies, two other series that were destined to be cancelled-too-soon before the first episode aired.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
12-11-14, 10:46 AM
I personally don't use the checklist in this challenge and didn't intend there to even be one, but during the second year when I was absent, one was created and it's sort of stuck around.

I still remember when I made it on that December morning, alone in the dark at work.

Travis McClain
12-11-14, 12:11 PM
I still remember when I made it on that December morning, alone in the dark at work.

I trust there was lightning and loud thunder to accompany your unholy deed.

shadokitty
12-11-14, 01:51 PM
I trust there was lightning and loud thunder to accompany your unholy deed.

LOL.

ON a separate note, if anyone wondered where I was, my depression and holiday stress just got too much for me, and I was sent to the psych ward of my local hospital. Luckilly the drs there saw I didn't really need to be there, so after the two day minimum for observation, I was released to be able to go home. I felt lucky as there were ppl there going on months.

Ash Ketchum
12-11-14, 02:20 PM
LOL.

ON a separate note, if anyone wondered where I was, my depression and holiday stress just got too much for me, and I was sent to the psych ward of my local hospital. Luckilly the drs there saw I didn't really need to be there, so after the two day minimum for observation, I was released to be able to go home. I felt lucky as there were ppl there going on months.

The holiday season can be tough. Maybe you just need to withdraw from family activities. Just opt out and say you can't do it this year. You have the right to do that.

shadokitty
12-11-14, 02:53 PM
The holiday season can be tough. Maybe you just need to withdraw from family activities. Just opt out and say you can't do it this year. You have the right to do that.

That's a good idea.

coyoteblue
12-11-14, 03:01 PM
Over the last few days, I've watched episodes of "Ultra Seven" (1967) and "Space Sheriff Gavan" (1982), two Japanese tokusatsu (live-action sci-fi superhero) series. Great stuff. An "Ultra Seven" two-parter had a couple of white characters in it, one a scientist (played by a beautiful blonde) and one a suspected alien spy. Neither turns out to be what they seem. It came out at a time when it was okay to show U.S.-Japanese cooperation in Japanese pop culture. One of the "Gavan" episodes adapts the classic Japanese folk tale, "Urashima Taro," to its sci-fi alien combat setting. Kenji Oba (Sonny Chiba's protege) stars as Gavan and does all his own stunts and fighting.

I also watched a couple of VHS tapes I picked up years ago that offer compilations of monster battles from the various "Ultraman" TV series. I just wish I could identify which shows/episodes each clip came from. Here's a relevant clip:



Mmmm. Maybe I can use the TV Challenge has a 'rationale' to pick up Ultra Q or Johnny Sokko and his Flying Robo. AT 28 and 24 half-hour episodes, either one would be fairly easy to burn through over the course of the challenge.

shadokitty
12-11-14, 03:34 PM
Mmmm. Maybe I can use the TV Challenge has a 'rationale' to pick up Ultra Q or Johnny Sokko and his Flying Robo. AT 28 and 24 half-hour episodes, either one would be fairly easy to burn through over the course of the challenge.

If you have a Roku, or it might be able to be watched in a web browser on your computer, Film On TV has a channel that quite often airs Johnny Sokko episodes.

shadokitty
12-11-14, 03:35 PM
I discovered early this morning that my Superman: The Animated Series Volume Three set was mis-manufactured: the Disc 1 contents and the Disc 2, Side A contents are swapped. This was a gift from a friend last December, bought new from Amazon. I didn't even open the shrink wrap until this morning. Whomp.

I read up on it and it seems that release was harangued by manufacturing errors. Some sets shipped with two Disc 2's. Some had glitches in specific episodes. Some came packaged with red Kryptonite that turned the buyers into simians. (That last one isn't confirmed, but I'm willing to take it at face value.) So in case you happen to own this set but haven't actually scoped it out, you may want to at least pop in your discs and take a look at the menu screens to confirm you have all 18 episodes. Thankfully, my set is complete even though two-thirds of it is in the wrong place.

I've never made it to season 3 yet, but thanks for the heads up. I've just finished Season 1. The Mxyltzplyk episode of Season 2 was one of my least favorite episodes, so I've been dragging my heels starting Season 2.

Ash Ketchum
12-11-14, 03:40 PM
Mmmm. Maybe I can use the TV Challenge has a 'rationale' to pick up Ultra Q or Johnny Sokko and his Flying Robo. AT 28 and 24 half-hour episodes, either one would be fairly easy to burn through over the course of the challenge.

Yeah, I've got both of those sets also and I've been waiting to sit down and plunge into Ultra Q in earnest.

coyoteblue
12-11-14, 04:50 PM
If you have a Roku, or it might be able to be watched in a web browser on your computer, Film On TV has a channel that quite often airs Johnny Sokko episodes.

I've got a roku; I'll add the channel and poke around.

shadokitty
12-11-14, 05:33 PM
I've got a roku; I'll add the channel and poke around.

I think it's a private channel, but just try to google Film On roku, as I forget what the code is.

LorenzoL
12-11-14, 09:35 PM
I started watching disc 1 of S3 of The Golden Girls tonight. I loved it growing up and it still holds up very well for me. Mind you since I'm getting older too, it's starting to be more relevant to me. I remember when I watched it when I was younger and being "shocked" at Blanche depiction and being surprised that older people still think and want to have sex :lol:

shadokitty
12-12-14, 01:06 AM
I just found out Amazon Prime has a whole section for PBS Shows, and since documentaries are one of my favorite genres, this will be great for the challenge. Just watched an episode of Nature on the Harpy Eagle.

shadokitty
12-12-14, 10:48 AM
Since Superman: The Animated Series is on Amazon Prime, I've started watching that off and on, rather than getting my DVDs out. Just finished the season 2 episode that introduced Livewire. I like this show, as it deals with actual comic book villains.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
12-12-14, 11:01 AM
I started watching disc 1 of S3 of The Golden Girls tonight. I loved it growing up and it still holds up very well for me. Mind you since I'm getting older too, it's starting to be more relevant to me. I remember when I watched it when I was younger and being "shocked" at Blanche depiction and being surprised that older people still think and want to have sex :lol:

I'm tired of Betty White making sex jokes for decades because that's all she can do at this point. Off Their Rocker is just one after another every single episode.

LorenzoL
12-12-14, 12:49 PM
I'm tired of Betty White making sex jokes for decades because that's all she can do at this point. Off Their Rocker is just one after another every single episode.
Which doesn't affect my viewing of the Golden Girls since her role in it was much different than what she's portraying right now in other shows.

shadokitty
12-12-14, 01:58 PM
I was in the mood for some nature, so I looked on my DVR and decided to watch an episode of Big Cat Diary. I think I probably have the entire series on my DVR by now.

Ash Ketchum
12-12-14, 02:49 PM
I just found out Amazon Prime has a whole section for PBS Shows, and since documentaries are one of my favorite genres, this will be great for the challenge. Just watched an episode of Nature on the Harpy Eagle.

"Nature" has its own website where you can watch full episodes:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/

I recommend "Snow Monkeys."

shadokitty
12-12-14, 03:28 PM
"Nature" has its own website where you can watch full episodes:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/

I recommend "Snow Monkeys."

Cool. Thanks for the link.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
12-12-14, 04:26 PM
Which doesn't affect my viewing of the Golden Girls since her role in it was much different than what she's portraying right now in other shows.

You aren't taking things out of context with her in that show enough. Try hard enough and she's a sex-crazed criminal mastermind. Makes the show more interesting. The power struggle between her and Maude is thrilling.

shadokitty
12-12-14, 05:49 PM
You aren't taking things out of context with her in that show enough. Try hard enough and she's a sex-crazed criminal mastermind. Makes the show more interesting. The power struggle between her and Maude is thrilling.

I thought Sophia was the one who wanted to rule the world. 'What are we going to do tonight Sophia? Same thing we do every night Blanche, try to take over the world!'

mrcellophane
12-12-14, 11:19 PM
I thought Sophia was the one who wanted to rule the world. 'What are we going to do tonight Sophia? Same thing we do every night Blanche, try to take over the world!'

"Picture it: Sicily, 1922. A young girl decides that one day, she's going to take over the world..."

shadokitty
12-13-14, 10:13 AM
I just finished the Snow Monkey's episode of Nature. It was a terrific episode, and Liam Neeson was a great narrator. One thing I am curious though, Nature showed that all members of the troupe are allowed to use the volcanic hot spring, but in the Primates episode of Life, Oprah said the hot springs are reserved for only the highest ranking females and their children. Which is correct?

shadokitty
12-13-14, 11:48 AM
I use Nimble TV for my cable to watch on my Roku on my bedroom tv, and the server is down. So I looked on Hulu which I can watch on PlayOn and found a lot of good documentary tv shows. Just watched the first episode of How It Works. With PlayOn I no longer need Hulu Plus to watch Hulu on my tv.

Ash Ketchum
12-13-14, 07:08 PM
I just finished the Snow Monkeys episode of Nature. It was a terrific episode, and Liam Neeson was a great narrator. One thing I am curious though, Nature showed that all members of the troupe are allowed to use the volcanic hot spring, but in the Primates episode of Life, Oprah said the hot springs are reserved for only the highest ranking females and their children. Which is correct?

Who you gonna believe, Liam Neeson or Oprah?

shadokitty
12-13-14, 08:33 PM
Who you gonna believe, Liam Neeson or Oprah?

Good point, lol.

BobO'Link
12-13-14, 10:39 PM
Who you gonna believe, Liam Neeson or Oprah?
Neither... I pulled out my copy of Life narrated by David Attenborough. He agrees with Oprah, but it's also the same script or at least the Oprah version was basterdized from Attenborough's. Life indicates this particular (my words - not the documentary) hot spring is reserved for the highest ranking Females and infants with a male making sure any who attempt to use the spring are acceptable. I got the impression that this is for a particular region, or a particular hot spring in the region, since it was indicated by name. Due to the narration I felt this particular group was singled out to vividly demonstrate the separation of classes in Snow Monkey society.

shadokitty
12-14-14, 07:17 AM
Neither... I pulled out my copy of Life narrated by David Attenborough. He agrees with Oprah, but it's also the same script or at least the Oprah version was basterdized from Attenborough's. Life indicates this particular (my words - not the documentary) hot spring is reserved for the highest ranking Females and infants with a male making sure any who attempt to use the spring are acceptable. I got the impression that this is for a particular region, or a particular hot spring in the region, since it was indicated by name. Due to the narration I felt this particular group was singled out to vividly demonstrate the separation of classes in Snow Monkey society.

That makes sense.

LorenzoL
12-14-14, 09:25 AM
You aren't taking things out of context with her in that show enough. Try hard enough and she's a sex-crazed criminal mastermind. Makes the show more interesting. The power struggle between her and Maude is thrilling.

I thought Sophia was the one who wanted to rule the world. 'What are we going to do tonight Sophia? Same thing we do every night Blanche, try to take over the world!'

"Picture it: Sicily, 1922. A young girl decides that one day, she's going to take over the world..."
That's a show that I want to watch: a mix of Golden Girls with Pinky and the Brain!

shadokitty
12-14-14, 10:24 AM
That's a show that I want to watch: a mix of Golden Girls with Pinky and the Brain!

lol

shadokitty
12-14-14, 01:42 PM
Amidst the documentaries I am watching, I decided to work on Gargoyles too. I didn't start at the beginning of Season 2 Volume 1 however, I started with 'Shadows of the Past', the beginning of the World Tour, as I mainly plan to work on my Season 2 Volume 2 set. There is one more world tour episode on Season 2 Volume 1, so I will watch that, and then open the new set.

LorenzoL
12-14-14, 03:46 PM
I finished S3 of the Golden Girls today. Some episodes holds up much better than others but the standout of that season for me is "Mixed Blessings". I watched this on DVD and I must be spoiled with HD images because I wished that they at least remastered the series before putting it on DVD. It does not look good and my Panasonic Blu-ray player up scales DVD images pretty well.

Amidst the documentaries I am watching, I decided to work on Gargoyles too. I didn't start at the beginning of Season 2 Volume 1 however, I started with 'Shadows of the Past', the beginning of the World Tour, as I mainly plan to work on my Season 2 Volume 2 set. There is one more world tour episode on Season 2 Volume 1, so I will watch that, and then open the new set.
I have this on my list too to watch on the challenge. I pre-ordered S2 Volume 2 for $9.99 at Amazon.ca

LorenzoL
12-14-14, 06:52 PM
After finishing S3 of the Golden Girls, I decided to continue with a Comedy series and started watching the S2 Blu-ray of The Big Bang Theory. I watched the first 4 episodes of the season and I must say, the image quality was outstanding compared to the Golden Girls DVD.

I like the early seasons before Amy and Bernadette join the cast although I haven't watched the past few seasons. The whole Penny and Leonard is not tiresome yet.

lisadoris
12-15-14, 06:41 AM
Are any of us actually waiting for the Challenge to begin? I just started S5 of The Wire last night. Season 4 broke my heart so I had to wait a day to start the next episodes. This was such an amazing series.

shadokitty
12-15-14, 10:28 AM
Are any of us actually waiting for the Challenge to begin? I just started S5 of The Wire last night. Season 4 broke my heart so I had to wait a day to start the next episodes. This was such an amazing series.

Seems like a lot of people have already started.

LorenzoL
12-15-14, 10:50 AM
I have already and just talk about it in this thread. I have a huge backlog of TV shows on DVD and Blu-ray that I want to tackle this year (I'm not even including the shows on Netflix and Hulu+). Once we officially start, I'll start listing the shows on the List Thread.

shadokitty
12-15-14, 11:16 AM
I'm watching tv even when I'm not at home. Just finished the Livewire and Parasite episode of Superman: The Animated Series on Amazon Prime. Killing time while I wait for my Dr appt by watching on my phone.

Ash Ketchum
12-15-14, 12:15 PM
Over the weekend I watched 17 episodes of "Ultraman," "Ultra Q," and "Space Sheriff Gavan."

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8676/15402532524_e350891578.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7509/16022892071_0283a62ac9.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2755/13205945354_bd88d46336.jpg

(In addition to regular weekend viewings of new installments of "Pokemon" and "Power Rangers.")

mrcellophane
12-15-14, 12:50 PM
Over the weekend I watched 17 episodes of "Ultraman," "Ultra Q," and "Space Sheriff Gavan."

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8676/15402532524_e350891578.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7509/16022892071_0283a62ac9.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2755/13205945354_bd88d46336.jpg

(In addition to regular weekend viewings of new installments of "Pokemon" and "Power Rangers.")

Awesome pictures! I should make a point of posting pics of my viewing endeavors. When I get home from work, I usually unwind with dinner and an episode of Murder, She Wrote, and I've noticed that it has some of the best reaction shots and some of the best teased hair!

shadokitty
12-15-14, 02:55 PM
The reason I've unofficially started, was I always watch tv anyways, so now that the thread is up, I can talk about my tv viewing.

BobO'Link
12-15-14, 03:05 PM
^Ditto. I believe the *only* challenge I don't watch much, if any, "TV" is the Horror one. For that one it's all horror movies (although I *do* watch a bit of "live" TV when on the computer). In all others I mix TV shows in with the movies.

While I *love* movies I *really love* TV shows. I've gotten to the point with my purchases that I'll frequently eschew the purchase of a movie and pick up a comparably priced TV season/show instead simply because I get more entertainment value for my $$. About the only exceptions are a highly desired film going on sale for a very good price. A recent example of that is the WB Charlie Chan set with Shadows Over Chinatown, Docks of New Orleans, Shanghai Chest, and The Golden Eye going on sale from TCM Shop (typically a highly overpriced venue with a high "free" shipping threshold) for a bit under $12 with free shipping. That's a deal on a highly desired set I just couldn't let pass. Of course there's also a TV connection as I was exposed to the Charlie Chan films on late night TV and not in the theater (like the vast majority of my movie viewings from the "classic" era).

I recently purchased series 2 of The League of Gentlemen from Hamilton Books. I've never seen the series before and the price (a whole $1 plus shipping pro-rated from the entire order - another $.50 or so?) made it a no-brainer to start in the middle and purchase that series as a sampler. I watched a episode last night. It was... odd. I don't know if I really should have started with series 1 or not or if it was that I fell asleep on the episode *several* times (it was late and I'd already watched a movie). I think I'm going to start over tonight while I'm better rested.

LJG765
12-15-14, 03:32 PM
I must be in the minority in that I'm concentrating on the Holiday challenge this month, that being said, I am watching a lot of TV specials so if the challenge was this month, I'd be watching a lot of things for double credit. :)

I know I'm late chiming in on the checklist additions, but I've been gone for awhile visiting a friend. I usually at least attempt the checklists. I do tend to marathon a season of something at a time, but switch around which shows I'm watching as I don't tend to stick with the same show after a season. I'm just ready to watch something different. The checklist usually gets filled pretty easily with a handful of episodes that I search out to finish it off for individual items.

That being said, this year, I think I'm going to watch some of my unwatched Trek and I don't know how the checklist will prosper/suffer because of that. I also will be gone a week in January where TV time is not going to be a priority so I'm not certain if I'm going to work on it or make it much of a focus.

I do enjoy checklists and like them as a bit of guidance when I'm staring at my collection going, "I want to watch SOMETHING but I have no idea what."

LorenzoL
12-16-14, 06:49 AM
I watched 3 episodes of Arrow S2: Identity, Broken Dolls and Crucible. I plan to finish S2 just in time for the Challenge to finally catch up to all of the episodes of S3.

LorenzoL
12-16-14, 06:50 AM
Awesome pictures! I should make a point of posting pics of my viewing endeavors. When I get home from work, I usually unwind with dinner and an episode of Murder, She Wrote, and I've noticed that it has some of the best reaction shots and some of the best teased hair!

I do that too. I'm in S9 now but I usually put the show on when I want something "light".

shadokitty
12-16-14, 09:44 AM
I got two things in the mail yesterday that will be great for the challenge, Wild Pacific, and Predator Dinosaurs. I've also ordered Ganges and for Amazon Instant, I bought Walking with Dinosaurs, as well as a couple episodes of Animals And Nature. I might also take this chance to finish my National Geographic Oceans set.

Ash Ketchum
12-16-14, 10:37 AM
Awesome pictures! I should make a point of posting pics of my viewing endeavors. When I get home from work, I usually unwind with dinner and an episode of Murder, She Wrote, and I've noticed that it has some of the best reaction shots and some of the best teased hair!

More pix of recent viewings on my blog:

https://briandanacamp.wordpress.com/2014/12/15/vhs-discoveries-ultraman-heaven/#more-2245

shadokitty
12-16-14, 11:40 AM
I plan to watch baseball during this challenge to, as my season pass to MLB.TV allows me to watch any game from last season since the entire season is archived, including spring training games.

shadokitty
12-16-14, 11:49 AM
More pix of recent viewings on my blog:

https://briandanacamp.wordpress.com/2014/12/15/vhs-discoveries-ultraman-heaven/#more-2245

Great pics and a very good article. Makes me want to watch some Japanese TV. Besides my copies of Ultraman and Super Robot Red Baron, Amazon Prime has a lot of Power Rangers, not to mention my anime collection.

shadokitty
12-16-14, 01:06 PM
I just finished revisiting Blue Planet, including for the first time, the bonus disc. I was surprised that the bonus disc was full length episodes.

Travis McClain
12-16-14, 01:16 PM
I plan to watch baseball during this challenge to, as my season pass to MLB.TV allows me to watch any game from last season since the entire season is archived, including spring training games.

I actually made it out to a ball game this year! 29 July: Reds/Diamondbacks in Cincy. (I also made it to a Triple-A game in Louisville in May, where Aroldis Chapman was rehabbing.)

shadokitty
12-16-14, 01:56 PM
I actually made it out to a ball game this year! 29 July: Reds/Diamondbacks in Cincy. (I also made it to a Triple-A game in Louisville in May, where Aroldis Chapman was rehabbing.)

Cool, the closest major league team to me is either Toronto, or Cleveland. Both about 100 miles from me. Incidentally, I have zero motivation today. Thank I'm just going to veg either in bed or on the couch and watch TV.

Travis McClain
12-16-14, 01:59 PM
Cool, the closest major league team to me is either Toronto, or Cleveland. Both about 100 miles from me.

I've been to Cleveland (to see an Indians/Rays game), but not Toronto (for anything). This was my first MLB game in four years. I used to make it up to Cincinnati (about an hour away from me) half a dozen times a season, but that was before Crohn's.

shadokitty
12-16-14, 09:07 PM
I've been to Cleveland (to see an Indians/Rays game), but not Toronto (for anything). This was my first MLB game in four years. I used to make it up to Cincinnati (about an hour away from me) half a dozen times a season, but that was before Crohn's.

I hope you're doing ok. After finishing Blue Planet, I started on Galapagos tonight.

Travis McClain
12-17-14, 12:50 PM
I hope you're doing ok.

Eh, I have good days and I have bad days, same as anyone else, I suppose. It's amazing to me that we already have more than a hundred posts in this thread with two weeks to go before the challenge even begins.

A bit of brainstorming got me wondering if there'd be any interest in an alternate, informal reach goal for this challenge:

200 Broadcast Hours in 31 Days

This is based on the 1 movie = 2 broadcast hours conversion formula. To meet the goal, you could watch:

200 one-hour episodes
400 half-hour episodes
800 quarter-hour episodes (think: [adult swim])
Or any combination thereof.

I looked at my previous challenges. It looks like I average around 100 broadcast hours, but I also tend to fade and not watch anything at all for an entire week, and I miss days here and there.

Thoughts?

shadokitty
12-17-14, 01:52 PM
Eh, I have good days and I have bad days, same as anyone else, I suppose. It's amazing to me that we already have more than a hundred posts in this thread with two weeks to go before the challenge even begins.

A bit of brainstorming got me wondering if there'd be any interest in an alternate, informal reach goal for this challenge:

200 Broadcast Hours in 31 Days

This is based on the 1 movie = 2 broadcast hours conversion formula. To meet the goal, you could watch:

200 one-hour episodes
400 half-hour episodes
800 quarter-hour episodes (think: [adult swim])
Or any combination thereof.

I looked at my previous challenges. It looks like I average around 100 broadcast hours, but I also tend to fade and not watch anything at all for an entire week, and I miss days here and there.

Thoughts?

That's how I am, good days and bad days.

While I don't know if I'll reach the goal, I kind of like that idea.

BobO'Link
12-17-14, 02:11 PM
Eh, I have good days and I have bad days, same as anyone else, I suppose. It's amazing to me that we already have more than a hundred posts in this thread with two weeks to go before the challenge even begins.

A bit of brainstorming got me wondering if there'd be any interest in an alternate, informal reach goal for this challenge:

200 Broadcast Hours in 31 Days

This is based on the 1 movie = 2 broadcast hours conversion formula. To meet the goal, you could watch:

200 one-hour episodes
400 half-hour episodes
800 quarter-hour episodes (think: [adult swim])
Or any combination thereof.

I looked at my previous challenges. It looks like I average around 100 broadcast hours, but I also tend to fade and not watch anything at all for an entire week, and I miss days here and there.

Thoughts?
Works for me as that's pretty close to what I do on a monthly basis anyway. Plus I just got in complete series for Sgt. Bilko, Mister Ed, and Batman '66 that I feel a need to move to the top of the "to watch" list! :)

Ash Ketchum
12-17-14, 02:41 PM
I'm wondering if we shouldn't just make TV on DVD an entire year's challenge. Just to, y'know, get through some of the backlog. :D

Last night I was watching a movie I taped off the Family Channel some 20-odd years ago and following the movie on the tape was a "Patty Duke" episode from Nick at Nite, followed by the first half of a "My Three Sons" episode before the tape ran out. I didn't even know they were on the tape! The "Patty Duke" episode featured a then-popular singing act called Chad and Jeremy (playing Nigel and Patrick) and I definitely remember seeing this episode when it was first on! I don't remember watching "My Three Sons" much as a kid, so this episode was something of a revelation in that Fred MacMurray takes his youngest son, Chip, to his place of work--a US Air Force base, where he works as an Aeronautical Engineer doing structural design of planes and had formerly been a test pilot. Which begs the question: is that the kind of work they even do on bases? Isn't that what they do at airplane manufacturing sites? In any event, I had no idea that's what the character did for a living.

BobO'Link
12-17-14, 03:16 PM
I'm wondering if we shouldn't just make TV on DVD an entire year's challenge. Just to, y'know, get through some of the backlog. :D
I'm game! But then what do I do with the huge backlog of *movies*!?!? :D I'm frequently torn as to which I need to work through the most!
Last night I was watching a movie I taped off the Family Channel some 20-odd years ago and following the movie on the tape was a "Patty Duke" episode from Nick at Nite, followed by the first half of a "My Three Sons" episode before the tape ran out. I didn't even know they were on the tape! The "Patty Duke" episode featured a then-popular singing act called Chad and Jeremy (playing Nigel and Patrick) and I definitely remember seeing this episode when it was first on! I don't remember watching "My Three Sons" much as a kid, so this episode was something of a revelation in that Fred MacMurray takes his youngest son, Chip, to his place of work--a US Air Force base, where he works as an Aeronautical Engineer doing structural design of planes and had formerly been a test pilot. Which begs the question: is that the kind of work they even do on bases? Isn't that what they do at airplane manufacturing sites? In any event, I had no idea that's what the character did for a living.
IIRC he's not employed by the USAF but works for a contractor who has offices on the base. Of course it *has* been decades since I saw the show - my sister and I watched it every week until about the time William Frawley got too sick to stay and left the show. We didn't much care for the character "Uncle Charlie" (William Demarest) who'd replaced "Bub" (the ailing William Frawley) mid-season right before "Mike" married and left the show. To a lesser degree we didn't care for the character of "Ernie" joining the show to fill in the gap left by the departing "Mike". Basically after "Bud" left the show we found our interest declining with each year. If it were in the press about Frawley's health we never saw (or heard) anything. Being kids we just didn't understand why they'd replace his character without much mention and didn't care for the cascading changes his leaving seemingly brought. By the time "Robbie" married (8th or 9th season?) we'd pretty much stopped watching.

shadokitty
12-17-14, 03:27 PM
I'm wondering if we shouldn't just make TV on DVD an entire year's challenge. Just to, y'know, get through some of the backlog. :D



Works for me, as I watch a lot of TV anyways. :D

Ash Ketchum
12-17-14, 04:04 PM
I'm game! But then what do I do with the huge backlog of *movies*!?!? :D I'm frequently torn as to which I need to work through the most!

IIRC he's not employed by the USAF but works for a contractor who has offices on the base. Of course it *has* been decades since I saw the show - my sister and I watched it every week until about the time William Frawley got too sick to stay and left the show. We didn't much care for the character "Uncle Charlie" (William Demarest) who'd replaced "Bub" (the ailing William Frawley) mid-season right before "Mike" married and left the show. To a lesser degree we didn't care for the character of "Ernie" joining the show to fill in the gap left by the departing "Mike". Basically after "Bub" left the show we found our interest declining with each year. If it were in the press about Frawley's health we never saw (or heard) anything. Being kids we just didn't understand why they'd replace his character without much mention and didn't care for the cascading changes his leaving seemingly brought. By the time "Robbie" married (8th or 9th season?) we'd pretty much stopped watching.

What struck me as I watched the bits with "Bub" yesterday is that he's essentially a maid, as if the character was designed as a woman but then the network felt having a single woman in a house full of unattached men was too much for the audience to handle, so they made the character a man. In the clip I saw, Bub makes a cake and then dinner and then washes the dishes and cleans the place, vacuuming under one of the lazy sons' legs in the living room. Quite a sea change for Fred Mertz. I wonder what Ethel thought. (Was Vivian Vance ever a guest on the show?) I don't remember Uncle Charlie much, but he was definitely much more brusque than Bub.

Travis McClain
12-17-14, 04:32 PM
I'm wondering if we shouldn't just make TV on DVD an entire year's challenge. Just to, y'know, get through some of the backlog. :D

Since TV content qualifies for all the other challenges except Oscars and Criterion, it's really just a matter of thematic organization on the part of the viewer to stretch it year-round. (Plus, there are technically a few TV things that even qualify for those challenges!)

Looking at the calendar, though, I do see that the Oscar Challenge will begin during the TV on DVD* Challenge; the Oscars air 22 February, so that challenge will cover the entire last week of this one. That'll put the squeeze on some of us. I suppose to compensate, we could start on Boxing Day (i.e., the day after Christmas) this year?

BobO'Link
12-17-14, 04:40 PM
What struck me as I watched the bits with "Bub" yesterday is that he's essentially a maid, as if the character was designed as a woman but then the network felt having a single woman in a house full of unattached men was too much for the audience to handle, so they made the character a man. In the clip I saw, Bub makes a cake and then dinner and then washes the dishes and cleans the place, vacuuming under one of the lazy sons' legs in the living room. Quite a sea change for Fred Mertz. I wonder what Ethel thought. (Was Vivian Vance ever a guest on the show?) I don't remember Uncle Charlie much, but he was definitely much more brusque than Bub.
Vance was never on My Three Sons. Reportedly she and Frawley hated each other and only tolerated each other on I Love Lucy because it paid very well.

shadokitty
12-17-14, 07:21 PM
Since TV content qualifies for all the other challenges except Oscars and Criterion, it's really just a matter of thematic organization on the part of the viewer to stretch it year-round. (Plus, there are technically a few TV things that even qualify for those challenges!)

Looking at the calendar, though, I do see that the Oscar Challenge will begin during the TV on DVD* Challenge; the Oscars air 22 February, so that challenge will cover the entire last week of this one. That'll put the squeeze on some of us. I suppose to compensate, we could start on Boxing Day (i.e., the day after Christmas) this year?

I wouldn't mind starting right after Christmas.

BobO'Link
12-17-14, 08:12 PM
... I do see that the Oscar Challenge will begin during the TV on DVD* Challenge; the Oscars air 22 February, so that challenge will cover the entire last week of this one. That'll put the squeeze on some of us. I suppose to compensate, we could start on Boxing Day (i.e., the day after Christmas) this year?
I normally don't bother with the Oscar Challenge and since I don't seem to be doing any Holiday viewing I might as well start early. That gives me another week to rack up numbers. :lol:

LorenzoL
12-17-14, 09:28 PM
I'm wondering if we shouldn't just make TV on DVD an entire year's challenge. Just to, y'know, get through some of the backlog. :D


:up: I'm game!

shadokitty
12-18-14, 02:48 AM
I just finished Wildest Indochina on Netflix. It was a very interesting series. I like the Wildest shows on Netflix.

lisadoris
12-18-14, 06:50 AM
Should be able to watch the series finale of The Wire tonight. Now I'm going to sit back and wait for this challenge to officially begin before I tear into anything else. I also ordered seasons 2 and 3 of Scandal so I will have those waiting for the challenge.

I like the idea of adding a number of hours watched aspect to the challenge. I probably won't reach it since the Oscar Challenge will overlap this year. Can I watch 200 broadcast hours in 21 days? I guess I'll find out.

davidh777
12-18-14, 01:28 PM
I normally don't bother with the Oscar Challenge and since I don't seem to be doing any Holiday viewing I might as well start early. That gives me another week to rack up numbers. :lol:

I do the Oscar challenge but in pretty light numbers--a few of this year's nominees plus a few classics off the unwatched pile. I really rack up numbers in TV and usually work some TV content into practically every challenge except Oscars, B movie, and Criterion.

I love how so many people are starting early. :lol: I'm watching holiday stuff but also still bingeing on the HIMYM I started in November and should have plenty left for Boxing Day and onward.

LorenzoL
12-18-14, 09:42 PM
I watched the first episode of Life (2007). I forgot how great Damien Lewis was on this. I watched the first season live but I never finished watching the second season which ended up being the last. Plus it doesn't hurt that Sarah Shahi was on this show. I might finally watch the second season during this challenge.

Travis McClain
12-19-14, 11:29 AM
It's official: We're starting on Boxing Day, and the List Thread (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/624185-tv-dvd-challenge-fifth-season-list-thread.html) is live!

mrcellophane
12-19-14, 01:50 PM
I'm excited about starting the TV challenge early! Now, we just need to have a year-long Criterion challenge! (The last three films I've watched were Criterion releases.)

Travis McClain
12-19-14, 01:53 PM
I'm excited about starting the TV challenge early! Now, we just need to have a year-long Criterion challenge! (The last three films I've watched were Criterion releases.)

So basically, you want a year-round Hulu Challenge!

shadokitty
12-19-14, 02:03 PM
Great looking prizes. A big thanks to Goldenwheels.

LorenzoL
12-21-14, 06:54 PM
I'm on vacation until January 4th but I will be spending time at my parents until Dec. 26th so I won't be able to watch some of the series I have been watching until I get home. At least I have Netflix Canada to keep me busy. I'll probably watch Veronica Mars and Fresh Prince while I'm here.

shadokitty
12-22-14, 02:40 PM
I'm tempted to start listing my stuff on my list as a pre challenge list, and not counting it. Has that thought crossed anyone else's mind?

On another note, I finished North America last night, as I binge watched it the night before, and got through all but the last episode on disc 2 on Saturday night. Tom Selleck may be no Attenborough, but he makes a decent narrator nonetheless.

LorenzoL
12-22-14, 09:26 PM
As much as I would like listing my items, I'm refraining from doing so since we are starting early this year. Just a few days more...

I watched the first 3 discs of Animaniacs Volume 1 DVD. The Yakko, Wakko and Dot segments stills holds up for me along with the Pinky and the Brain ones. However, I found the Goodfeathers and Slappy The Squirrel segments annoying. I never really cared for the Rita and Runt ones and I still don't. The Mindy and Buttons ones are still dear to me since I still sometimes quote the "Hi Lady. Okay, I love you. Bu bye."

shadokitty
12-22-14, 10:16 PM
I just finished Predator Dinosaurs: The Truth About Killer Dinosaurs. It's an as usual rather good BBC Documentary about a few of the Carnivorous Dinos and the plant eaters they fought to try to kill. Reminds me, I plan to finish Walking With Dinosaurs during the challenge, as I bought the series on Amazon Instant Video.

shadokitty
12-23-14, 07:15 AM
With the challenge only a few days away, I was wondering if anyone knew what they planned to start off with. Not really sure myself, as there is so much I could watch.

BobO'Link
12-23-14, 07:56 AM
With the challenge only a few days away, I was wondering if anyone knew what they planned to start off with. Not really sure myself, as there is so much I could watch.
Na na, na na, na na, na na, NA - BATMAN!

The complete series is under the tree impatiently awaiting Christmas morning! I've already warned my wife that I'll be watching a few episodes as soon as it's opened to they (her, kids, grandkids) will just have to be patient with me for a few hours! :D

After that... There are my new sets of Mister Ed, and You'll Never Get Rich (aka Sgt. Bilko), more Fringe (the 2 older grandkids - ages 11 and 8 - watched the last half dozen eps of S1 with me a few days ago and were pretty ticked I didn't immediately start S2!), X-Files, Stargate SG-1, maybe watch the last season of Deep Space 9 *and* Enterprise or continue with Gomer Pyle or The Odd Couple. Then there's that Adventures of Jim Bowie set I won a couple of years back I'd like to dive into and many many more. Yeah... we need to do this year round! :)

mrcellophane
12-23-14, 09:22 AM
With the challenge only a few days away, I was wondering if anyone knew what they planned to start off with. Not really sure myself, as there is so much I could watch.

I'm not quite sure. I know that I will definitely continue delving into my Murder, She Wrote set. Watching Jessica Fletcher is just too much fun! Other than that, I hope to get through some of the cartoons that have piled up.

shadokitty
12-23-14, 10:48 AM
Na na, na na, na na, na na, NA - BATMAN!

The complete series is under the tree impatiently awaiting Christmas morning! I've already warned my wife that I'll be watching a few episodes as soon as it's opened to they (her, kids, grandkids) will just have to be patient with me for a few hours! :D

After that... There are my new sets of Mister Ed, and You'll Never Get Rich (aka Sgt. Bilko), more Fringe (the 2 older grandkids - ages 11 and 8 - watched the last half dozen eps of S1 with me a few days ago and were pretty ticked I didn't immediately start S2!), X-Files, Stargate SG-1, maybe watch the last season of Deep Space 9 *and* Enterprise or continue with Gomer Pyle or The Odd Couple. Then there's that Adventures of Jim Bowie set I won a couple of years back I'd like to dive into and many many more. Yeah... we need to do this year round! :)



We really do need a year long TV challenge. :D

LorenzoL
12-23-14, 12:09 PM
With the challenge only a few days away, I was wondering if anyone knew what they planned to start off with. Not really sure myself, as there is so much I could watch.
I'm thinking that I will start with Castle S5. I bought myself the complete Family Ties Album and have the Blu-ray of True Detective to go through. So many choices and possibilities for this challenge...
Na na, na na, na na, na na, NA - BATMAN!

The complete series is under the tree impatiently awaiting Christmas morning! I've already warned my wife that I'll be watching a few episodes as soon as it's opened to they (her, kids, grandkids) will just have to be patient with me for a few hours! :D

After that... There are my new sets of Mister Ed, and You'll Never Get Rich (aka Sgt. Bilko), more Fringe (the 2 older grandkids - ages 11 and 8 - watched the last half dozen eps of S1 with me a few days ago and were pretty ticked I didn't immediately start S2!), X-Files, Stargate SG-1, maybe watch the last season of Deep Space 9 *and* Enterprise or continue with Gomer Pyle or The Odd Couple. Then there's that Adventures of Jim Bowie set I won a couple of years back I'd like to dive into and many many more. Yeah... we need to do this year round! :)
The Batman set is down to $142.99 on Amazon.ca and I'm very tempted to buy it. I have cutdown considerably with my Blu-ray and DVD purchases recently but the Batman set along with the Wonder Years and WKRP complete sets have me thinking of splurging this holiday season.

Ash Ketchum
12-23-14, 12:09 PM
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Richard Widmark would have turned 100 this coming Friday, Dec. 26, the first day of the Challenge. He did a lot of TV in the 1970s and '80s, including a TV series spin-off of his movie, MADIGAN. I wish I had episodes from that series. It was quite good and a great showcase for the aging Widmark (he was in his late 50s at the time and lived to the age of 93).

I do have one TV movie of his, THE LAST DAY (1975), a western about the Dalton Bros. If I can find that tape, I'll dig it out and watch it on Friday.

Also, if you have a Hulu account, you can watch episodes of "Madigan" on-line:
http://www.tvrage.com/madigan

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davidh777
12-23-14, 12:36 PM
I don't think there's anything wrong with listing your pre-challenge watches. It's just a list for yourself, and you can put it in spoiler tags if you think other people won't want to see it. :shrug:

BobO'Link
12-23-14, 01:25 PM
The Batman set is down to $142.99 on Amazon.ca and I'm very tempted to buy it. I have cutdown considerably with my Blu-ray and DVD purchases recently but the Batman set along with the Wonder Years and WKRP complete sets have me thinking of splurging this holiday season.
I can't speak for Batman (haven't opened it yet) or The Wonder Years (waiting for the price to come down a bit) but WKRP is a superb release! The music replacements done were handled very well - even the Pink Floyd "Dogs" replacement in "Turkey's Away." The replacement is "good enough" and stylistically appropriate. If you are not intimate with Floyd (or the uncut episode) you'd never know.

shadokitty
12-23-14, 01:53 PM
If anyone is interested in some classic nature TV this challenge, YouTube has a bunch of episodes of Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom.

shadokitty
12-23-14, 02:49 PM
I just noticed travelogue under the checklist. I enjoy Globe Trekker,and subscribe to the Globe Trekked channel on Roku.

Travis McClain
12-24-14, 05:33 AM
With the challenge only a few days away, I was wondering if anyone knew what they planned to start off with. Not really sure myself, as there is so much I could watch.

Na na, na na, na na, na na, NA - BATMAN!

The complete series is under the tree impatiently awaiting Christmas morning! I've already warned my wife that I'll be watching a few episodes as soon as it's opened to they (her, kids, grandkids) will just have to be patient with me for a few hours! :D

I have several DVD season sets I intend to get to, but I confess that I'm sorely tempted to ditch 'em and instead delve into Batman, which is in my group's UltraViolet library. (Holy communal property!) I have the movie on Blu-ray (it's also in the UV library), and I have Return to the Batcave: The Misadventures of Adam and Burt on DVD, too. I watched the latter for the inaugural TV on DVD* Challenge in 2011, but you better believe that whenever I do go back through the series proper, I'll conclude with that!

Incidentally, 12 January will be the 49th anniversary of the original broadcast of the first episode of that series, "Hi Diddle Riddle"; "Smack in the Middle", the concluding half, aired the next night on the 13th.

LorenzoL
12-24-14, 08:33 AM
I can't speak for Batman (haven't opened it yet) or The Wonder Years (waiting for the price to come down a bit) but WKRP is a superb release! The music replacements done were handled very well - even the Pink Floyd "Dogs" replacement in "Turkey's Away." The replacement is "good enough" and stylistically appropriate. If you are not intimate with Floyd (or the uncut episode) you'd never know.

As much as I want to purchase WKRP, I'll wait for a price drop since it still listed for $90, here in Canada. I was too young when this show was on the air but catching it on re-runs and Hulu Plus gave me an appreciation for the series. I'm glad to see that Shout did a great job acquiring most of the music along with the music replacement.

I think I'll purchase the Batman limited set since I can sell the digital copy to subsidize the set. I think all the extras are present in the non-limited set if I want to go that route.

Now, Wonder Years is a different matter. I can wait and just buy the season sets but I'll be missing the bonus discs that comes with the locker set. I want to buy it but $250 is too steep for a DVD set.

shadokitty
12-25-14, 10:10 AM
While watching Shark Day programs on Discovery, I saw a commercial for a new show, that at least to me looks like it will be good. Big Giant Swords, which looks like a show about a man who makes swords himself.

LorenzoL
12-25-14, 02:39 PM
I'm thinking that I will start with Castle S5. I bought myself the complete Family Ties Album and have the Blu-ray of True Detective to go through. So many choices and possibilities for this challenge...

The Batman set is down to $142.99 on Amazon.ca and I'm very tempted to buy it. I have cutdown considerably with my Blu-ray and DVD purchases recently but the Batman set along with the Wonder Years and WKRP complete sets have me thinking of splurging this holiday season.

I purchased the Batman set with the Christmas money I got.

The last few days I spent watching Holidays movies but I will be ready tomorrow to cut down on my unwatched pile of TV season sets. One more sleep...

shadokitty
12-25-14, 08:07 PM
Less than 24 hours to go for me. I can't wait to get started officially. Why can't I live in Bora Bora ;) I've been watching Shark Day programming most of the day, except for my viewing of A Christmas Story, Christmas Dinner, and my after meal nap due to a Tryptiphan related food coma.

BobO'Link
12-25-14, 08:20 PM
My son and his family came in for a couple of weeks and brought a stomach flu with them! They thought everyone was in the clear but the 1 year old got sick the first night here. Of course we'd all been hugging/kissing on him so... At this point the only person who's escaped infection is my daughter. Needless to say that put quite a crimp on movie watching as well as other holiday events (we cancelled everything except for our Christmas this morning). In a way it was somewhat a blessing as I was dreading Christmas Eve celebrations with my brother-in-law's "upgraded" family (I'd love to spend time with my brother-in-law and his wife as long as the grown kids stay "home"). It's been a *very* quiet Christmas. I'm heading back to the couch... Batman has been put off a day or two 'cause I want to feel good when I start watching.

Merry Christmas to all!

shadokitty
12-25-14, 09:05 PM
My son and his family came in for a couple of weeks and brought a stomach flu with them! They thought everyone was in the clear but the 1 year old got sick the first night here. Of course we'd all been hugging/kissing on him so... At this point the only person who's escaped infection is my daughter. Needless to say that put quite a crimp on movie watching as well as other holiday events (we cancelled everything except for our Christmas this morning). In a way it was somewhat a blessing as I was dreading Christmas Eve celebrations with my brother-in-law's "upgraded" family (I'd love to spend time with my brother-in-law and his wife as long as the grown kids stay "home"). It's been a *very* quiet Christmas. I'm heading back to the couch... Batman has been put off a day or two 'cause I want to feel good when I start watching.

Merry Christmas to all!

Our entire house has been sick, so I feel your pain. My sister is supposed to bring my nieces on Saturday, but her whole house has been sick. Merry Christmas? You mean Bah, Humbug don't you? How can you enjoy Christmas when you're feeling like crap.

shadokitty
12-26-14, 10:27 AM
Less than 6 hours to go for me. Getting more excited by the minute.

BobO'Link
12-26-14, 11:58 AM
Our entire house has been sick, so I feel your pain. My sister is supposed to bring my nieces on Saturday, but her whole house has been sick. Merry Christmas? You mean Bah, Humbug don't you? How can you enjoy Christmas when you're feeling like crap.
Nope! No "Bah, Humbug" here! Yeah, I felt poorly, and still do a bit, but I felt good enough to open presents and had a really good time with my kids and grandkids. The only true downside was not being able to safely eat the many treats and special foods we have around and not talking to the relatives who called (but I hate talking on the phone anyway so even that wasn't so bad). I can eat the food later. :) My son and his family left to visit her family for a few days so it's nice and quiet today! Their oldest, 2 1/2 years old, is a very noisy boy who's not really controlled well. I'm quite grateful for the break! Since I get almost 2 weeks off for the Christmas/New Year holiday I have plenty of time to rest and watch TV (I go back to work on Jan. 5th). That's another reason I really liked starting on Boxing Day as I'll have more time for watching stuff!

I've still put Batman on hold - although I *think* I feel well enough to enjoy a few episodes later today. I started the challenge officially by picking up where I'd left off (mid-way through) Have Gun - Will Travel, one I'd started last summer and have just let languish. I was totally surprised to see Dan Blocker as a bad guy in a episode and then Purnell Roberts shows up as the bad guy a few episodes later! Well... I had to then look up Michael Landon and Lorne Greene. Neither of them appeared on that one. But I did discover that Greene was only 13 years older than Roberts and Blocker (who were 6 months apart in age). I'd have pegged him as being at least 20 years older than either. I'm looking at finishing that series before moving on...

shadokitty
12-26-14, 12:44 PM
I've still put Batman on hold - although I *think* I feel well enough to enjoy a few episodes later today. I started the challenge officially by picking up where I'd left off (mid-way through) Have Gun - Will Travel, one I'd started last summer and have just let languish. I was totally surprised to see Dan Blocker as a bad guy in a episode and then Purnell Roberts shows up as the bad guy a few episodes later! Well... I had to then look up Michael Landon and Lorne Greene. Neither of them appeared on that one. But I did discover that Greene was only 13 years older than Roberts and Blocker (who were 6 months apart in age). I'd have pegged him as being at least 20 years older than either. I'm looking at finishing that series before moving on...

I'm sicker today than I was yesterday, so can't even enjoy my new PS3, though can't play anything yet, except Lego Hobbit, which was bundled with it. I'm still downloading the games I bought when I used to have a PS3 before I sold it.

You officially started? It's dusk where you are right now? Must be nice, I'm still unofficially watching stuff. Watching Wild Pacific right now, though I'll probably start another set to get a fresh start for my first BBC Earth series of the challenge.

shadokitty
12-26-14, 04:05 PM
Less than 2 hours till start time, and I decided for my first watch, I'll look on tv for something to watch. That's the time of day I normally just watch regular TV.

lisadoris
12-26-14, 05:23 PM
I just finished re-watching S1 of Alpha House so I'm all set to begin watching S2 in about 30 minutes.

PhantomStranger
12-26-14, 05:32 PM
I watched the entirety of Penny Dreadful in two days. A great show if you want to see League of Extraordinary Monsters with a literary bent. The only disappointment is that the first season is less than nine episodes.

LorenzoL
12-26-14, 05:33 PM
It's already dusk here so I'm starting with Marvel's Agents of SHIELD S1E3. I'm hoping to catch up and delete the episodes on my DVR.

shadokitty
12-26-14, 07:06 PM
I started the challenge with an episode of Treehouse Masters on Animal Planet, in which a recording studio was built in a tree.

BobO'Link
12-26-14, 07:49 PM
You officially started? It's dusk where you are right now? Must be nice, I'm still unofficially watching stuff. Watching Wild Pacific right now, though I'll probably start another set to get a fresh start for my first BBC Earth series of the challenge.
Well... crap! I *thought* I was... with your post I checked the first one of the list thread to find the start time is *dusk* on Boxing Day!!! When it was decided I really didn't pay much attention and was thinking it was all day today! That means I actually *did* start with Batman as originally intended. My oldest granddaughter spent the night last night and we started watching the first episode of the set around dusk here. She somewhat surprised me by liking *both* Have Gun - Will Travel and Batman! :)

EdTheRipper
12-26-14, 08:06 PM
I kicked things off with Game of Thrones. I had never seen a single episode prior to tonight. I'm one episode in, and so far, so good.

Travis McClain
12-26-14, 08:25 PM
Well... crap! I *thought* I was... with your post I checked the first one of the list thread to find the start time is *dusk* on Boxing Day!!! When it was decided I really didn't pay much attention and was thinking it was all day today!

That was my fault. I wish I'd caught that sooner, because it really doesn't make any obvious sense to have started at dusk. If you wanna count anything you watched before dusk today, go for it. My apologies to anyone who has stared outside waiting for the sun to go away!

davidh777
12-26-14, 08:28 PM
I kicked things off with Game of Thrones. I had never seen a single episode prior to tonight. I'm one episode in, and so far, so good.

:up: I love the show. Not sure how you're watching, but it really rewards, er, paying attention. Not that you wouldn't pay attention, but some shows I can play on my phone while watching and not miss that much. With GOT, there's a lot going on so I find I really have to actively watch.

shadokitty
12-26-14, 10:06 PM
Just finished watching an episode of Doctor Who on BBC America. Always liked that show.

EdTheRipper
12-26-14, 10:40 PM
:up: I love the show. Not sure how you're watching, but it really rewards, er, paying attention. Not that you wouldn't pay attention, but some shows I can play on my phone while watching and not miss that much. With GOT, there's a lot going on so I find I really have to actively watch.

Two episodes in before calling it a night. I am watching on Blu-ray, because I am an obsessive blind buyer especially if the price is right. Watching tv/movies is just something that I can't multi-task during, so I am quite focused on the screen. I've liked both episodes so far, and am definitely looking forward to picking it back up tomorrow.

LorenzoL
12-26-14, 11:30 PM
I watched episodes 3 and 4 of Marvel's Agents of Shield and I have to say, the first few episodes are a bore. I have been told that this show improves towards the end so I will be sticking with it.

Before Christmas, I bought myself the Complete Series Album of Family Ties. I decided to watch the Bonus disc and the Vacation movie. I haven't seen the Family Ties Vacation movie in years. I didn't watch it live but I caught it when they rerun the episodes in syndication. The vacation movie is missing on Netflix. I have to say, that the tv movie didn't work as the whole spy angle was tedious. There were some funny moments and I was glad that they shot it on location but overall, it didn't work at all.
The bonus disc contains only an excerpt of the "Inside the Actors Studio" with Michael J. Fox and I wish it contained the whole episode. His wife was starting to explain the first time she met Michael J. Fox and the impression she got from him at the beginning.
Afterwards, watched the first two episodes of Season 4 when he first meets Ellen. Those two episodes works in so many levels and are a fine example of what made Family Ties so great. BTW, the DVDs look so much better than the Netflix episodes. You could actually see the details on the episodes like Trisha's face on the directory when Alex shows it to his parents. I don't regret one bit splurging on this expensive set.

I finished off the day by rewatching the International Pilot of Psych. I can't get enough of this show!

PhantomStranger
12-27-14, 01:59 AM
I have to plow through the entire third season of Girls for reviewing purposes. This could be a long weekend.

BobO'Link
12-27-14, 04:51 AM
Two episodes in before calling it a night. I am watching on Blu-ray, because I am an obsessive blind buyer especially if the price is right. Watching tv/movies is just something that I can't multi-task during, so I am quite focused on the screen. I've liked both episodes so far, and am definitely looking forward to picking it back up tomorrow.
There are so many things going on in a episode of GOT that it can frequently require several viewings to catch it all. *Little* things like a seemingly inconsequential brief conversation between people can have significant ramifications a few episodes later.

This is one of those rare programs where I tend to go back and re-watch all episodes prior to starting a new season just to make sure I didn't miss something along the way. I can hardly wait for the S4 release and already have S1-S3 lined up for rewatching.

If you've not yet purchased S2 and S3 do yourself a favor and get that done - also pre-order S4.

shadokitty
12-27-14, 07:04 AM
I woke up early, like 4 in the morning early, and saw a bowl game was on ESPNU, so just finished watching the inaugural 2014 Quick Lane Bowl.

EdTheRipper
12-27-14, 08:48 AM
There are so many things going on in a episode of GOT that it can frequently require several viewings to catch it all. *Little* things like a seemingly inconsequential brief conversation between people can have significant ramifications a few episodes later.

This is one of those rare programs where I tend to go back and re-watch all episodes prior to starting a new season just to make sure I didn't miss something along the way. I can hardly wait for the S4 release and already have S1-S3 lined up for rewatching.

If you've not yet purchased S2 and S3 do yourself a favor and get that done - also pre-order S4.

Already got all 3 seasons on Blu. I'm hopeful to be completely caught up and watching the 5th season as it airs.

LorenzoL
12-27-14, 09:25 AM
I also have the first 3 season of Game of Thrones along with the first 5 seasons of True Blood, True Detective and the first 3 seasons on Blu-ray and all of the rest of the episodes on my DVR of the Walking Dead. I'm not sure if I'll be able to go through all of the shows during the challenge but I'll definitely watch True Detective first.

This morning I started off with some anime. I watched the first two episodes of Freezing and High School DXD. Nothing special and lots of fan service on both shows.

BobO'Link
12-27-14, 11:22 AM
Batman is a blast! I like it just as much as I did when it originally aired. Of course I "get" the humor better as a adult and am seeing all manner of things I didn't notice as a 11 year old fan. I'm sure part of that comes from having the ability to view multiple episodes at once (reused scenes) but part is just being more observant than I was as a kid.

My 8 year old granddaughter likes it too! We started watching last night and this morning she asked to watch more! :D I just wish her brother had come over and spent the night too but he got a new game (Skylanders Trap Team) for his X-Box and is sucked into that at the moment. She's somewhat impatiently awaiting the first of the Catwoman episodes... just two more and she'll arrive! :D

shadokitty
12-27-14, 03:14 PM
Just reached 10 hours with an episode of Walking with Dinosaurs that I bought through Amazon Instant Video.

lisadoris
12-27-14, 04:59 PM
Finished S2 of Alpha House today. It's funny, the last couple episodes dealt with the normalization of relations between the US and Cuba. Someone must have been eavesdropping on White House conversations given what happened a couple weeks ago.

Started Treme and it's cool to see so many actors from Homicide and The Wire moving to New Orleans. I have also seen several folks who were featured in When the Levees Broke - I'm glad the series hired local talent. The music is spectacular on the show but I don't love the series just yet. Hopefully it will grow on me soon.

EdTheRipper
12-27-14, 07:44 PM
I'm 7 episodes in to the first season of Game of Thrones, and am totally hooked. My son and I are about to go out for the night, and I was trying to convince him that he didn't want to go, so I could stay here and finish the season.

shadokitty
12-27-14, 08:33 PM
I just finished my Blu Ray of Galapagos. Watched one episode last night, and 2 today.

LorenzoL
12-27-14, 11:09 PM
I finished off rewatching S1 of Psych today. I cannot get tired of this show. The chemistry with all of the leads is unbelievable. Mind you I have yet to watch the last season which I read is not as great as the first few seasons.

Travis McClain
12-27-14, 11:42 PM
I wound up starting with The Dukes of Hazzard The Complete Third Season. I've already finished Disc 1. I love the cast and their chemistry. So far, it's been Denver Pyle as Uncle Jesse that's stood out the most through the early going of this season. He's the moral compass of the whole show, and it's because Pyle sold it so earnestly, and because everyone else was sincerely reverential of him, that the hokum is endearing rather than insulting. There's not a shred of irony or any "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" anywhere to undermine his (and therefore, the show's) messages.

John Schneider, Catherine Bach, and Tom Wopat recorded a commentary for "And in This Corner, Luke Duke". I learned two things. One: Catherine Bach used to make car noises when she shot her green screen scenes. Adorable! Two: Tom Wopat can't swim because he sinks. I have the same problem, and I feel a little better about it knowing this.

mrcellophane
12-28-14, 03:33 AM
Between family, travel, and extended holiday festivities, I haven't had much time to devote to the challenge. I did manage to watch a couple episodes of Murder, She Wrote. I love everything about that show!

John Schneider, Catherine Bach, and Tom Wopat recorded a commentary for "And in This Corner, Luke Duke". I learned two things. One: Catherine Bach used to make car noises when she shot her green screen scenes. Adorable! Two: Tom Wopat can't swim because he sinks. I have the same problem, and I feel a little better about it knowing this.

I was fortunate enough to see Tom Wopat playing opposite Bernadette Peters in Annie Get Your Gun during my one visit to New York City. Later, I saw him play Billy in a touring production of Chicago. Dude can sing! I've never really watched Dukes of Hazzard; perhaps I should soon.

shadokitty
12-28-14, 07:58 AM
Don't know how much I'll get in today, because my sister is bringing her kids for Christmas dinner. Won't be able to enjoy it though, as I'm sick as a dog today.

shadokitty
12-28-14, 08:46 AM
I decided to watch what I could before we get busy today, so I started out with a good episode of Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom. It was about the Sea Otter. They are a playful, and friendly species.

LorenzoL
12-28-14, 09:56 AM
I don't think I will be watching much for the challenge today. In between, football and errands, I'll only probably watch an episode or two.

Yesterday, I finally had a chance to watch disc 1 of my Volume 1 set of Mazinger Z. This was my introduction to anime. I loved it as a kid although it's weird watching it with it's original audio. I still found the show very enjoyable and I can't really explain why it was never that big here in North America besides being remade into Tranzor Z. Maybe is not politically correct enough but then again there's a lot of current anime shows that have questionable content too. I see shows like Astro Boy or Speed Racer that are well known here and frankly, I don't think it compares with Mazinger IMHO.

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shadokitty
12-28-14, 10:51 AM
I don't think I will be watching much for the challenge today. In between, football and errands, I'll only probably watch an episode or two.

Yesterday, I finally had a chance to watch disc 1 of my Volume 1 set of Mazinger Z. This was my introduction to anime. I loved it as a kid although it's weird watching it with it's original audio. I still found the show very enjoyable and I can't really explain why it was never that big here in North America besides being remade into Tranzor Z. Maybe is not politically correct enough but then again there's a lot of current anime shows that have questionable content too. I see shows like Astro Boy or Speed Racer that are well known here and frankly, I don't think it compares with Mazinger IMHO.

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I've seen Mazinger Z listed on crunchyroll, I think. Might watch some. Oh, and football counts for the challenge too.

Travis McClain
12-28-14, 12:48 PM
I don't think I will be watching much for the challenge today. In between, football and errands, I'll only probably watch an episode or two.

Psst...your football games count, too!

LorenzoL
12-28-14, 01:01 PM
Psst...your football games count, too!
:up:

BobO'Link
12-28-14, 01:03 PM
Holy Binge Viewing! I've almost completed the first season of Batman! It's been quite fun and I'm finding I like the series as much, if not more, than I did as a 11 year old when it first aired! That series is enjoyable on *so* many different levels!

BobO'Link
12-28-14, 01:09 PM
Psst...your football games count, too!
That's one reason I like this one so much. I turn on the TV, tune in History, or Discovery, or A&E, and whatever I settle on just to fill a bit of time counts! Even if the grandkids want to watch some of their mindless modern cartoons it counts! No thinking involved!

Aside: Does it show my age that I have little tolerance for what counts as "cartoon entertainment" on network/cable channels these days? I'd really like to think what I watched as a kid, and *still* like, was far superior to the drivel they watch.

shadokitty
12-28-14, 04:52 PM
That's one reason I like this one so much. I turn on the TV, tune in History, or Discovery, or A&E, and whatever I settle on just to fill a bit of time counts! Even if the grandkids want to watch some of their mindless modern cartoons it counts! No thinking involved!

Aside: Does it show my age that I have little tolerance for what counts as "cartoon entertainment" on network/cable channels these days? I'd really like to think what I watched as a kid, and *still* like, was far superior to the drivel they watch.

If it does show your age, then it shows mine too.

Ash Ketchum
12-28-14, 05:13 PM
I don't think I will be watching much for the challenge today. In between, football and errands, I'll only probably watch an episode or two.

Yesterday, I finally had a chance to watch disc 1 of my Volume 1 set of Mazinger Z. This was my introduction to anime. I loved it as a kid although it's weird watching it with it's original audio. I still found the show very enjoyable and I can't really explain why it was never that big here in North America besides being remade into Tranzor Z. Maybe is not politically correct enough but then again there's a lot of current anime shows that have questionable content too. I see shows like Astro Boy or Speed Racer that are well known here and frankly, I don't think it compares with Mazinger IMHO.

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Wow, I completely forgot about Mazinger Z. When it came out in the U.S. early this year I meant to order it but the price was really high. Then I forgot about it. Now you've reminded me to check again and the prices have gone down. Time to order it.

shadokitty
12-29-14, 06:04 AM
Woke up at 5 this morning, though still sick, and decided to look for something on TV. I found an episode of Wicked Tuna on the National Geographic Channel. That is one of my favorite channels.

Ash Ketchum
12-29-14, 07:54 AM
I bought a box set of Season 4 of "Sea Hunt" earlier this year and watched the first three episodes yesterday, the first time I've seen any of this series in over 50 years. They were great. Strong, suspenseful dramas, based on believable premises, with lots of undersea/diving technical research. Each episode is completely different from the others. Lloyd Bridges seems to do a lot of his own stunts and was in great shape for a man of 47 at the time. I can't wait to watch more.

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Also, I went to FYE and picked up a DVD for $3.99 containing 11 episodes of "Route 66," a show I've never seen at all.

LorenzoL
12-29-14, 08:03 AM
I wrote earlier that I have been extremely good not purchasing DVD and Blu-ray sets this year but in the past few weeks, I purchased the Batman Complete Series set, the Hogwarts Collection and the Family Ties Complete Series Album set. Now, this morning I see that Amazon.ca has the Dick Van Dyke Show on Blu-ray for $28.49. It was a no brainer. I made another purchase. :lol: So much for self control.

shadokitty
12-29-14, 09:58 AM
I bought a box set of Season 4 of "Sea Hunt" earlier this year and watched the first three episodes yesterday, the first time I've seen any of this series in over 50 years. They were great. Strong, suspenseful dramas, based on believable premises, with lots of undersea/diving technical research. Each episode is completely different from the others. Lloyd Bridges seems to do a lot of his own stunts and was in great shape for a man of 47 at the time. I can't wait to watch more.

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Also, I went to FYE and picked up a DVD for $3.99 containing 11 episodes of "Route 66," a show I've never seen at all.

I've watched Sea Hunt on Hulu, and enjoy the show. As for Route 66, I think it is on MeTV, but I've never seen it, as it is on at like 3 AM, or some time thereabouts.

davidh777
12-29-14, 05:54 PM
I'm 7 episodes in to the first season of Game of Thrones, and am totally hooked. My son and I are about to go out for the night, and I was trying to convince him that he didn't want to go, so I could stay here and finish the season.

:lol: :up: I've watched every season multiple times. If you have time after you finish each season, take a look at the BD bonus features. They're really good and add a lot of depth to the show, including a lot of books-specific background. They don't spoil future seasons either. I've even seen the in-episode pop-up guide change from episode to episode based on what happens during the season.

I watched episodes 3 and 4 of Marvel's Agents of Shield and I have to say, the first few episodes are a bore. I have been told that this show improves towards the end so I will be sticking with it.

I've heard the same thing and need to get back to it.

Before Christmas, I bought myself the Complete Series Album of Family Ties. I decided to watch the Bonus disc and the Vacation movie. I haven't seen the Family Ties Vacation movie in years. I didn't watch it live but I caught it when they rerun the episodes in syndication. The vacation movie is missing on Netflix. I have to say, that the tv movie didn't work as the whole spy angle was tedious. There were some funny moments and I was glad that they shot it on location but overall, it didn't work at all.
The bonus disc contains only an excerpt of the "Inside the Actors Studio" with Michael J. Fox and I wish it contained the whole episode. His wife was starting to explain the first time she met Michael J. Fox and the impression she got from him at the beginning.
Afterwards, watched the first two episodes of Season 4 when he first meets Ellen. Those two episodes works in so many levels and are a fine example of what made Family Ties so great. BTW, the DVDs look so much better than the Netflix episodes. You could actually see the details on the episodes like Trisha's face on the directory when Alex shows it to his parents. I don't regret one bit splurging on this expensive set.

I watched that vacation movie for a previous challenge, and it was pretty bad as were most tie-in movies of that era. The Ellen meet-up arc is some of my all-time favorite TV, as their chemistry is just so great. It's surprising how few episodes Ellen was actually on.

shadokitty
12-29-14, 06:07 PM
While flipping channels looking for something to watch, I found Weird Creatures on Discovery Family. An episode about the Mole Lizards of Mexico. Since I love nature docs, it was right up my alley.

Travis McClain
12-30-14, 03:48 AM
PEOPLE.

I'm watching The Dukes of Hazzard, right? In the episode "Mrs. Rosco P. Coltrane", Rosco is scammed by a woman through a computer dating service. In 1980. How was this even possible? Keep in mind, this was just a few episodes after Hughie Hogg had to explain the VCR and camcorder. So I look up the sole credited writer, Si Rose, and I discover that he died in 1976 - four years before this episode ever aired! There's only one logical explanation:

SI ROSE WAS/IS A TIME TRAVELER.

shadokitty
12-30-14, 05:06 AM
Started early this morning by watching Sports center as soon as I woke up on ESPNEWS.

BobO'Link
12-30-14, 05:43 AM
PEOPLE.

I'm watching The Dukes of Hazzard, right? In the episode "Mrs. Rosco P. Coltrane", Rosco is scammed by a woman through a computer dating service. In 1980. How was this even possible? Keep in mind, this was just a few episodes after Hughie Hogg had to explain the VCR and camcorder. So I look up the sole credited writer, Si Rose, and I discover that he died in 1976 - four years before this episode ever aired! There's only one logical explanation:

SI ROSE WAS/IS A TIME TRAVELER.
I don't know about Si Rose - BUT "Computer Dating Services" got their start in the late 60s. One visited a office where information was collected and put on punch cards. The cards were read into the computer and, based on choices indicated on the card(s), a match would be made. Just like today but more primitive and you couldn't do it from the comfort of your home. In those early years the pioneers of such services typically rented their computer time. The advent of the office/home/personal computer in the mid-late 70s made it possible for anyone to do this fairly easily.

Travis McClain
12-30-14, 08:46 AM
I don't know about Si Rose - BUT "Computer Dating Services" got their start in the late 60s. One visited a office where information was collected and put on punch cards. The cards were read into the computer and, based on choices indicated on the card(s), a match would be made. Just like today but more primitive and you couldn't do it from the comfort of your home. In those early years the pioneers of such services typically rented their computer time. The advent of the office/home/personal computer in the mid-late 70s made it possible for anyone to do this fairly easily.

You're not going to burst my time traveler theory with this "computer dating existed in the late 60's" business. I KNOW A TIME TRAVELER WHEN I FIND ONE.

LorenzoL
12-30-14, 10:31 AM
I've seen Mazinger Z listed on crunchyroll, I think. Might watch some. Oh, and football counts for the challenge too.
Check out some episodes there if they have them. This show might not be for everyone and I would like to read your reaction to this show.

Wow, I completely forgot about Mazinger Z. When it came out in the U.S. early this year I meant to order it but the price was really high. Then I forgot about it. Now you've reminded me to check again and the prices have gone down. Time to order it.
I also usually wait around for sales specially for anime but with Mazinger Z, I couldn't wait. I have to compliment Discotek for a great job for this set, heck, even for releasing it here in North America. The image quality is decent and they did a great job with the subtitles (they even subtitled the written words!). Just to give you a heads up, they have no extras whatsoever and the whole show is divided into two volumes. The second volume was released on December 23rd. I had it pre-ordered via Amazon.ca but I have yet to receive a shipping confirmation e-mail.



I've heard the same thing and need to get back to it.
The only good thing about the early episodes of S.H.I.E.L.D. is Skye.


I watched that vacation movie for a previous challenge, and it was pretty bad as were most tie-in movies of that era. The Ellen meet-up arc is some of my all-time favorite TV, as their chemistry is just so great. It's surprising how few episodes Ellen was actually on.
Don't get me started again on Family Ties!
I don't know if I mentioned it in last year challenge, but the reason why she quit (supposedly) after the season was to be with her boyfriend at the time, Kevin Bacon, as she was commuting from New York to LA to be with him. Talk about the 7 Degrees of Kevin Bacon if true!
I didn't mind Courteney Cox but she was a poor substitute for Ellen. I'm glad that they decided to break them up before the last episode.
I love Family Ties even with its faults! I don't know what it is, maybe the chemistry amongst the cast, but I can re-watch almost of all of the episodes with the exception of the clip shows. And speaking of clip shows, I have yet to find another TV series that had so many clip shows during its run. I think after S2, they had at least two clip show episodes each season until the end.

I wonder how one goes about acquiring episodes of "Inside the Actors Studio" as the excerpt on the bonus DVD has Tracey Pollan detailing her first impression of Michael J. Fox and it wasn't good. She indicated that she couldn't say the word since their son was beside her and it wasn't appropriate for a TV audience :lol: It would have been nice to have the whole episode instead of just the excerpt.

davidh777
12-30-14, 10:41 AM
I became a fan of Cristin Milioti in A to Z, which led me to seek out season 9 of How I Met Your Mother. From there, my kids and I have been watching from the beginning, and we're finishing up season 5. Since I didn't get credit for most of the December watching, I'm hoping we can finish this thing by the end of January. :lol:

Don't get me started again on Family Ties!
I don't know if I mentioned it in last year challenge, but the reason why she quit (supposedly) after the season was to be with her boyfriend at the time, Kevin Bacon, as she was commuting from New York to LA to be with him. Talk about the 7 Degrees of Kevin Bacon if true!
I didn't mind Courteney Cox but she was a poor substitute for Ellen. I'm glad that they decided to break them up before the last episode.
I love Family Ties even with its faults! I don't know what it is, maybe the chemistry amongst the cast, but I can re-watch almost of all of the episodes with the exception of the clip shows. And speaking of clip shows, I have yet to find another TV series that had so many clip shows during its run. I think after S2, they had at least two clip show episodes each season until the end.

I wonder how one goes about acquiring episodes of "Inside the Actors Studio" as the excerpt on the bonus DVD has Tracey Pollan detailing her first impression of Michael J. Fox and it wasn't good. She indicated that she couldn't say the word since their son was beside her and it wasn't appropriate for a TV audience :lol: It would have been nice to have the whole episode instead of just the excerpt.

Damn, I was trying to watch the first Ellen season a while back, and those clip shows nearly make the series unbingeable! :lol: I believe I only have five or six seasons on DVD so I need to pick up that complete set. To this day, I've never seen the big Fox-centric episode toward the end of the run because I was out of the country at the time. And yeah, Cox was fine, but suffered in comparison to Ellen.

LorenzoL
12-30-14, 11:21 AM
I'll be spending a quiet New Year with my family and right now, our plan is to watch the Harry Potter movies from the Hogwarts set to ring in the New Year. So no TV shows for the next two days. However, Amazon.ca was kind enough to deliver my Boxing Day swag that I ordered from them and that includes the The Dick Van Dyke Show blu-ray set that I ordered yesterday and was delivered to me this morning! This was on the free shipping option too :up: I never watched the show but for the price that I paid for the complete series on Blu-ray plus how everyone raves about it including TV people, this was an easy decision. After watching the first episode this morning, it was the best $30 that I have ever spent!

And finally, I found the show Elementary first two seasons on Netflix Argentina this past Sunday and watched the first 3 episodes of the show. I'm a Sherlock Holmes fan. I read the Arthur Conan Doyle's stories when I was younger and watched the Jeremy Brett episodes of Sherlock Holmes on PBS. Is Elementary a faithful adaptation of the ACD stories? No. Does it compare to the Jeremy Brett TV versions of Holmes? Not even close. However, it's not a total waste of time as the show has its charms. Since this show is on CBS, you could use another CBS show for comparison, The Mentalist. Heck, I'll say that with the exception of using Sherlock Holmes mythology, you could name this show "The Mentalist 2.0". So what are some of the charms you may ask? Jonny Lee Miller interpretation of Sherlock is decent. He's eccentric but not quite antisocial as I pictured Holmes to be. Nice eye candy with Lucy Liu as Watson and the 3rd episode got me with its villain so at least I'm interested enough to continue with Season 1...

Afterwards, I decided to watch Sherlock since I heard so much about it. Now, this is the modern update that I was hoping for when I watched Elementary. Cumberbatch portrayal of Holmes is what I had in mind as he plays him as a brilliant man that is also a complete asshole socially. Mind you, this is on the BBC, so they can get away with having a "darker" portrayal that might not suit American Network TV along with having a much shorter episodes run too. On Elementary, they hint at the sexual tension between Holmes and Watson but on Sherlock, they just come out and make "light" of the relationship between Holmes and Watson. Plus, Sherlock actually adapts the ACD stories and revised them with a modern twist. I'll definitely be finishing the 3 seasons of the show during this challenge!

Travis McClain
12-30-14, 11:28 AM
And finally, I found the show Elementary first two seasons on Netflix Argentina this past Sunday and watched the first 3 episodes of the show...

Afterwards, I decided to watch Sherlock since I heard so much about it.

Have you seen the 1954-55 series starring Ronald Howard? I went back through that series for a second tour during the last TV on DVD* Challenge and found it still every bit as delightful as the first time. I see it as an ancestor of Psych, another show I greatly enjoyed.

LorenzoL
12-30-14, 11:34 AM
Have you seen the 1954-55 series starring Ronald Howard? I went back through that series for a second tour during the last TV on DVD* Challenge and found it still every bit as delightful as the first time. I see it as an ancestor of Psych, another show I greatly enjoyed.
No but thanks for the recommendation. I have to search Amazon.ca to see if they have it since it will be a blind buy. Hopefully its not too expensive. I know that the Jeremy Brett Granada set of Holmes is out on Blu-ray but even on sale, it's still quite pricey for me. Heck, I also had to look for the Basil Rathbone's Sherlock movies too!

Travis McClain
12-30-14, 11:41 AM
No but thanks for the recommendation. I have to search Amazon.ca to see if they have it since it will be a blind buy. Hopefully its not too expensive. I know that the Jeremy Brett Granada set of Holmes is out on Blu-ray but even on sale, it's still quite pricey for me. Heck, I also had to look for the Basil Rathbone's Sherlock movies too!

It's in the public domain. Mill Creek has released it a few times over the last decade, often packaging it with some of the public domain Holmes movies. You shouldn't have much trouble finding it on the cheap!

davidh777
12-30-14, 12:31 PM
Afterwards, I decided to watch Sherlock since I heard so much about it. Now, this is the modern update that I was hoping for when I watched Elementary. Cumberbatch portrayal of Holmes is what I had in mind as he plays him as a brilliant man that is also a complete asshole socially. Mind you, this is on the BBC, so they can get away with having a "darker" portrayal that might not suit American Network TV along with having a much shorter episodes run too. On Elementary, they hint at the sexual tension between Holmes and Watson but on Sherlock, they just come out and make "light" of the relationship between Holmes and Watson. Plus, Sherlock actually adapts the ACD stories and revised them with a modern twist. I'll definitely be finishing the 3 seasons of the show during this challenge!

Jeremy Brett is "my" Sherlock Holmes, but the new series is great too. Not only are the seasons short, but the episodes are really movie-length. If you broke each arc into two episodes each (like, say, Strike Back), you'd have six episodes, which as you say would not be unusual for British TV.

I know that the Jeremy Brett Granada set of Holmes is out on Blu-ray but even on sale, it's still quite pricey for me.

I have most of the Brett run on DVD and am not sure how they'd look on BD. Do you know if they were shot on film?

LorenzoL
12-30-14, 01:01 PM
Jeremy Brett is "my" Sherlock Holmes, but the new series is great too. Not only are the seasons short, but the episodes are really movie-length. If you broke each arc into two episodes each (like, say, Strike Back), you'd have six episodes, which as you say would not be unusual for British TV.



I have most of the Brett run on DVD and am not sure how they'd look on BD. Do you know if they were shot on film?
Not a lot of reviews for the Granada Blu-ray set but DVD Talk has one and gave the set, a good review. I'm leaning towards that this show was not shot on film...

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/65483/sherlock-holmes-the-complete-series/

Edit - I was wrong! The TV show was shot on film. It says so in the review. I need to do better with my reading comprehension...

Undeadcow
12-30-14, 01:43 PM
Early for the challenge; but I just finished the first season of The Strain and really enjoyed it. There's some filler but it had a good weight to it with an unexpected focus on character drama that helped "sell" the horror elements.

shadokitty
12-30-14, 03:14 PM
I just watched my first outdoor show of the challenge. There was an episode of Deer and Wildlife Stories on the Pursuit Channel about making a Deer Farm.

MrTerrific
12-30-14, 04:32 PM
I'm only 15 episodes in, but I can already say that Stargate Atlantis is my favorite of the Stargate franchise.

davidh777
12-30-14, 04:37 PM
Early for the challenge; but I just finished the first season of The Strain and really enjoyed it. There's some filler but it had a good weight to it with an unexpected focus on character drama that helped "sell" the horror elements.

Actually it's not early at all. :)

Undeadcow
12-30-14, 04:54 PM
Actually it's not early at all. :)

Ahhh... Travis should update this original post to reflect the change in time; blind intuition wins again - thanks for the notice.

Otherwise this thread OP incorrectly says "This challenge begins at Dusk (your time) on New Year's Eve, 31 December..."

LorenzoL
12-30-14, 04:58 PM
Ahhh... Travis should update this original post to reflect the change in time; blind intuition wins again - thanks for the notice.

Otherwise this thread OP incorrectly says "This challenge begins at Dusk (your time) on New Year's Eve, 31 December..."

Yeah, he changed it on the List thread but he might have forgotten it in this thread.

lisadoris
12-30-14, 06:07 PM
I'm only 15 episodes in, but I can already say that Stargate Atlantis is my favorite of the Stargate franchise.
It starts off strong but it doesn't end that way trust me. Be prepared.

Ash Ketchum
12-30-14, 08:51 PM
The Green Hornet (1966), with Bruce Lee, is on YouTube now:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+green+hornet

lisadoris
12-30-14, 09:22 PM
Just finished season 2 of Treme and it has grown on me. The music is still freaking amazing and I think the writers have finally found their rhythm. My only complaint really isn't a knock against this show in particular but against all of David Simon's shows: he always manages to kill my favorite characters and it's really pissing me off.

Travis McClain
12-30-14, 09:47 PM
Ahhh... Travis should update this original post to reflect the change in time; blind intuition wins again - thanks for the notice.

Otherwise this thread OP incorrectly says "This challenge begins at Dusk (your time) on New Year's Eve, 31 December..."

Good catch; fixed! I've also revised the first post (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/624185-tv-dvd-challenge-fifth-season-list-thread.html#post12338909) in the List Thread to make note of a few things that will be eligible for the Oscar Challenge during the overlap period at the end of the challenge. I could have sworn that somewhere, we had a comprehensive list of such content but I can't seem to find it. If I'm missing anything, be sure to let me know!

shadokitty
12-30-14, 10:46 PM
I just started my National Geographic DVD set, and finished the first episode, Shark Island. The set contains 6 episodes dealing with the ocean.

shadokitty
12-31-14, 01:50 AM
I'm wide awake tonight, so what better time to work on the challenge. After I got bored with games on my PS3, I booted up Netflix and decided to watch the original Battlestar Galactica. I always liked that show when it used to air on the Sci Fi Channel, before the days of SyFy. Though I never saw many episodes. Watching the first episode, Saga of a Star World Pt 1 right now.

Ash Ketchum
12-31-14, 10:08 AM
So I've finally watched two "Route 66" episodes. Interesting, but not great. Need to see more episodes.

"Play It Glissando" originally aired on Jan. 20, 1961, the date of JFK's inauguration. Ironically, it includes a scene where a man with a rifle (Jack Lord) fires from a high position at a convertible on the highway below. I watched the episode on what would have been Jack Lord's 94th birthday (December 30). There's some good jazz singing and trumpet playing in the episode and I wish I knew who the artists doing the dubbing were.

"Lizard's Leg and Owlet's Wing" features three prominent guest stars: Boris Karloff, Peter Lorre and Lon Chaney Jr.--as themselves! They're planning to make a new horror TV series together (would that such a thing had actually happened) and are in a hotel while a secretaries' convention is being held, so in order to prove that the old scares still work, they get back into their old getups and terrorize the poor secretaries. It's actually pretty funny.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-Iefy8VdG8A/SYPdu_2owuI/AAAAAAAAGpI/CcoASd4UaF4/s400/cap576.bmp

shadokitty
01-01-15, 08:05 AM
I was in the mood to watch a baseball game today, but no dice. I found out that as soon as 2015 hit, last year's archived games were wiped and MLB.TV only had the new 2015 schedule listed.

EdTheRipper
01-01-15, 04:46 PM
I wrapped up the first season of Game of Thrones on Monday night. Wow. So good. I've been battling a bit of an illness, so I've been slowed down since then unfortunately. I've been picking away at Family Guy episodes to try and lighten the mood. Once that season is complete, it'll be back to GoT for season 2.

Cardsfan111
01-01-15, 05:51 PM
I was in the mood to watch a baseball game today, but no dice. I found out that as soon as 2015 hit, last year's archived games were wiped and MLB.TV only had the new 2015 schedule listed.

On occasion, I'll watch old games on YouTube. There's a fairly good number of regular season/postseason classics there.

shadokitty
01-01-15, 07:58 PM
On occasion, I'll watch old games on YouTube. There's a fairly good number of regular season/postseason classics there.

Thanks for the tip. Now I won't have to go through withdrawals. :)

Travis McClain
01-01-15, 09:34 PM
The Dukes of Hazzard - The Complete Third Season

I closed out last year's TV on DVD* Challenge with the second season, and I found marathon-ing my way through that in two days was a bit of a chore so I decided to start with the third season and space it out over a few more days. That seemed to work a lot better, because I only found myself feeling the 49:XX run time for a few episodes. The plots are pretty thin - or, worse, convoluted when trying to pad out their thinness - but that's okay. The real appeal of the show is the chemistry of its cast, which for my money ranks up there with the finest ensembles ever.

Last season, it was James Best as Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane who stole the show. This time, it was Denver Pyle as Uncle Jesse. He's the show's moral compass, and the reverence for him from the other cast members is unmistakably genuine. When he laughs, they laugh; when he gets serious, they hold their breaths and don't just wait to deliver their lines. There are a few scenes throughout this season that call for some seriousness, and Pyle sells them brilliantly.

Take, for instance, the TV movie "Carnival of Thrills" that opens the season. Bo and Luke come to blows over the former being wrapped around the finger of a dubious show promoter, and decides to leave the farm to be with her. Daisy pleads for Uncle Jesse to intervene, but he wisely elects not to do that. Instead, he assures Bo that he understands this is something he has to do, and asks that he remember that he loves him, and that the farm his his home and he can come back whenever he's finished doing whatever it is he feels he needs to do. It's a very simple moment, but ripe with emotion.

In "And in This Corner, Luke Duke", Pyle's at it again, this time defending Luke's refusal to box even though it could cost the family the farm. "I'd just as soon lose the farm as to see Luke go against his principles," Uncle Jesse decrees. "We'll just have to find another way." And for him, that's that. No guilt trip, no attempt to rationalize things, nothing. Just throwing himself behind his nephew and his principles.

There were only two outright clunker episodes for me: "Uncle Boss", which seemed to be so poorly written and inconsistent with previous shows that I have to think it was something rescued from an earlier season and dusted off to make up for something. Though Sonny Shroyer had already left for his Enos spin-off, he appears in this episode. So too is Daisy's car, replaced by her jeep Dixie after it was totaled. Then there's Hughie Hogg; despite the fact we'd already met him in the second season when he filled in for the absent Best - no mention is made of that. From the dialog, you'd think this was Hughie's first appearance. And maybe it was supposed to be? I dunno. It's a tedious episode, in any event. I was leery going into Hughie's second appearance of the season, "The Return of Hughie Hogg", but that turned out to be brilliant.

My other favorite thing about the third season is the introduction of Rosco's deputy, Flash. Flash is male for his first several appearances, but is referred to as female from "The Great Santa Claus Chase" onward. It was Best's idea to bring in the dog, and it was an inspired idea. His mutterings to Flash are amusing, and gave him the chance to flex his already impressive comedic muscle.

It's also fun to see some of the guest stars, such as Andrew Robinson (DS9's Garak), Royce D. Applegate (seaQuest DSV's Chief Crocker), and Charles Napier (a zillion movies and such), and the country singers snared in Boss's celebrity speed trap: Tammy Wynette, The Oak Ridge Boys, Hoyt Axton, Dottie West, Freddy Fender, and Roy Orbison.

Bonus content is pretty light. Tom Wopat, John Schneider, and Catherine Bach recorded some stuff together that yielded A Special Welcome (1:06), an introduction to the season on Disc 1, Side A; a commentary for "And in This Corner, Luke Duke" (available in audio or "DukesVision" video modes); and "Bo, Luke & Daisy: Just Good Ole' Friends" (22:38), an on-screen video of the three reminiscing and teasing one another. It's all pretty straightforward stuff, though I did learn that Tom Wopat couldn't swim because he sank and as I have the same problem, I felt better learning that. (But then a Wopat fan found my tweet to that effect and informed me that he has since learned to float, so now I'm back to just being a miserable sinker.)

The only other bonus feature is Dukes Family Tree (22:07), in which series creator Gy Waldron profiles the creation and casting of each of the series's principal cast.

Cardsfan111
01-01-15, 09:42 PM
Nice review, Travis. It's been a long time since I've watched some Dukes. I have several seasons among the unwatched stack. Got to get to those at some point.

Travis McClain
01-01-15, 09:46 PM
Nice review, Travis. It's been a long time since I've watched some Dukes. I have several seasons among the unwatched stack. Got to get to those at some point.

I don't have any more of the show on DVD left to watch now! At least I've got twelve months to turn up The Complete Fourth Season...unlike Burn Notice; I'm on pace to watch its Season Three, but I don't presently own that or anything after it!

ororama
01-02-15, 01:35 AM
I don't have any more of the show on DVD left to watch now! At least I've got twelve months to turn up The Complete Fourth Season...unlike Burn Notice; I'm on pace to watch its Season Three, but I don't presently own that or anything after it!

Keep an eye out for FoxConnect sales for Burn Notice. I picked up the seasons that I didn't have for $5.99 each, and Burn Notice: The Fall of Sam Axe blu-ray for $1.99 recently. They have frequent sales (wait for at least half price) and a low threshold for free shipping.

shadokitty
01-02-15, 01:38 PM
I'll be losing Netflix temporarily this month due to my higher cell phone bill. I bought a phone last month, and the activation fee made my bill higher. Luckily, I have other streaming options. My phone came with a free year of Amazon Prime, and since I have Play On, I can watch Hulu on my TV. I've found a lot of good shows on Prime, and Hulu.

davidh777
01-02-15, 01:53 PM
A bit of brainstorming got me wondering if there'd be any interest in an alternate, informal reach goal for this challenge:

200 Broadcast Hours in 31 Days

This is based on the 1 movie = 2 broadcast hours conversion formula. To meet the goal, you could watch:

200 one-hour episodes
400 half-hour episodes
800 quarter-hour episodes (think: [adult swim])
Or any combination thereof.

I looked at my previous challenges. It looks like I average around 100 broadcast hours, but I also tend to fade and not watch anything at all for an entire week, and I miss days here and there.

Thoughts?

http://www.sideofsneakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/barney-stinson-challenge-accepted.jpg

Thanks to the Boxing Day period and other life developments, I'm poised to blow past my previous challenge totals this year. In the interest of this new benchmark, I've started tabulating daily watching hours in my list. I'm over 30 so far so I think I have a shot at this. :)

shadokitty
01-02-15, 02:24 PM
http://www.sideofsneakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/barney-stinson-challenge-accepted.jpg

Thanks to the Boxing Day period and other life developments, I'm poised to blow past my previous challenge totals this year. In the interest of this new benchmark, I've started tabulating daily watching hours in my list. I'm over 30 so far so I think I have a shot at this. :)

Good luck to you. I'm doing it too, and am almost to 50.

malazar
01-02-15, 07:01 PM
I kinda forgot about the starting early thing, so I hadn't dipped into the DVDs and blu-rays until yesterday. Oh well, I am sure it will be a fun and productive month!

Ash Ketchum
01-02-15, 08:46 PM
Eligibility question.

I watched episode 26 of what I thought was a TV series. But when I checked on Anime News Network, it said that only the first 25 episodes of this series were shown on TV. Episode 26 and 14 subsequent episodes came out much later and were released straight to video. Since movie spin-offs of TV series are eligible (and there are dozens of those every year in Japan), I'm assuming that OAV (straight-to-video anime) spin-offs are eligible for this challenge also. For the record, the series is "Master Keaton."

Waiting for an answer before I add it to my tally.

Thanks.

lisadoris
01-02-15, 09:08 PM
I would count direct to video spin-offs

BobO'Link
01-02-15, 09:48 PM
Same here. I'd consider it no different than a TV series that went the online streaming route for continuation (like with Arrested Development). IMHO - Count it.

davidh777
01-02-15, 09:58 PM
Same here. I'd consider it no different than a TV series that went the online streaming route for continuation (like with Arrested Development). IMHO - Count it.

Right, like the whole discussion of whether AD4 should be in the TV forum or in the streaming forum--what matters is the content, not the method of delivery.

Travis has final say, of course.

Travis McClain
01-02-15, 11:50 PM
Eligibility question.

I watched episode 26 of what I thought was a TV series. But when I checked on Anime News Network, it said that only the first 25 episodes of this series were shown on TV. Episode 26 and 14 subsequent episodes came out much later and were released straight to video. Since movie spin-offs of TV series are eligible (and there are dozens of those every year in Japan), I'm assuming that OAV (straight-to-video anime) spin-offs are eligible for this challenge also. For the record, the series is "Master Keaton."

Waiting for an answer before I add it to my tally.

Thanks.

Oh, they're fine. They're part of the direct continuity of the show, so whatevs.

shadokitty
01-03-15, 03:01 AM
I'm still awake, and bored out of my head. Pondering whether I should move to the living room and turn tv on, or watch something on my Roku.

shadokitty
01-03-15, 11:05 AM
While I'm far from burnt out, I have another problem. I have no idea what to watch. I have so many choices, I'm stuck.

shadokitty
01-03-15, 11:35 AM
I was debating between a few shows today, and decided to binge on various nature documentaries today. I decided I want to pick a different show to watch everyday.

BobO'Link
01-03-15, 02:17 PM
I finished Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with S7 yesterday. That's one I watched "live" the first few seasons and when Worf was brought aboard in a "ratings boost" gimmick I dumped the show. Such was my dislike of The Next Generation (and as I've indicated before, still think of it as the worst of all the Trek franchise).

It started OK but then got a bit shaky with more "bottle" episodes than I'd have thought they'd have used in the final season especially considering the Dominion War was in full swing. A especially bad one was the "Take Me Out to the Holosuite" episode, followed closely by "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang" (gangsters take over "Vic's" nightclub due to a programming "Jack-in-the-box"). Those are episodes I'd have expected to see in TNG - *not* DS9. I know part of the bottle episodes were to get the "new" Dax integrated into the cast and accepted by the viewing public but there were several outside that storyline that felt like writer's block stuff. Still it finally ramped up about mid-way and the last 10 or so were excellent. I liked the final episode until the war ending celebration at "Vic's" in the holosuite with its over half hour of "tear jerker" type flashbacks of the full series for each major character. Honestly, I fast forwarded through all that as it did nothing for me other than fill time.

Still it was a good season and in reflecting on the seasons with Worf I find I did the series somewhat a disservice by rejecting those seasons outright because of a marketing ploy. Worf was a fairly good fit with the series and really helped the Klingon focused episodes dealing with the Dominion War. While I hated seeing Terry Farrell leave the series the introduction and integration of the new Dax was done very well.

In spite of my reservations about the series I just ordered S3 of The Next Generation and will start a viewing of that series in the near future, possibly before the end of the challenge. I purchased S1 & S2 a year or so back. Yes... it's the completist in me doing that. Since I own all the other Trek series my OCD will not allow me to *not* own TNG in spite of my general dislike of that one.

Today I've watched a bit more of Batman S2. I'm *really* enjoying that series! Outside a episode or two I caught on Nick-at-Night (I think) I've not seen that one since it originally aired. I didn't try to watch regularly when Nick aired it due to the two-part episodes. I'd either catch part 1 and never see part 2 or just get the 2nd part so I didn't bother out of frustration. If you own that one and haven't done so, watch the Egghead episodes with the subtitles turned on. It's a hoot! They spell out the eggxeptional language just as it's spoken! :)

Travis McClain
01-03-15, 04:35 PM
A especially bad one was the "Take Me Out to the Holosuite" episode, followed closely by "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang" (gangsters take over "Vic's" nightclub due to a programming "Jack-in-the-box"). Those are episodes I'd have expected to see in TNG - *not* DS9.

"Take Me Out to the Holosuite", I'll concede is weak, though as a baseball fan I have a soft spot for it. "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang", however, stands as a strong point in the series. Star Trek has been praised all these decades for being racially progressive entertainment, but what DS9 did - particularly, but not exclusively, through Captain Sisko - was to call Trek out on its colorblindness. "It's just a TV show." "It's just a movie." "It's just a holosuite program." We hear, and maybe even say, these things all the time on behalf of something we like when it rankles someone else, and the counterargument from Sisko is that, no, it isn't "just" entertainment. These things matter, because of what they represent.

It may seem frivolous at first - particularly, as you note, that the series is up to its eyeballs in the Dominion War at that time - but it's one of the most powerful commentaries in the entire canon. Retconning people of color into places and eras where they had been barred had become an accepted means of storytelling in a lot of mediums, and it's important to remember that in reality, the experiences of such people were wholly different.

"Far Beyond the Stars" was one of the most perfect episodes in all of Star Trek and makes many of the same points, but I would argue that "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang" was still necessary because it packs a different punch: we know and like Vic. Why should we think of Vic as representative of anything unpleasant? But then Sisko drops the history lesson on us and it's a reminder that sweeping things aside may be the tidy thing to do, but it isn't the path to meaningful progress and healing. What could be a more perfect crucible of the values of Star Trek than that?

LorenzoL
01-03-15, 05:22 PM
The past two days, I went through the S1 episodes of Elementary on Netflix. I have to admit, when I first watched this show, I called it "The Mentalist 2.0" but I have to give credit to the shows producers, writers and actors, in order to give us a revisionist touch of the Sherlock Holmes stories. Mind you, is not as great as Sherlock, but I will continue unto S2 of this show.

I also watched the first 4 episodes of Friends. Here is my review:
Review of the first 4 episodes of Friends (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/12350131-post26.html)

Also I'm rewatching the S1 of Brooklyn Nine Nine on Netflix.

shadokitty
01-03-15, 06:43 PM
I wonder if TV would be a good way to relax. Not only am I bored, but I'm also stressed today, and have no idea why.

lisadoris
01-03-15, 08:24 PM
It started OK but then got a bit shaky with more "bottle" episodes than I'd have thought they'd have used in the final season especially considering the Dominion War was in full swing. A especially bad one was the "Take Me Out to the Holosuite" episode, followed closely by "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang" (gangsters take over "Vic's" nightclub due to a programming "Jack-in-the-box"). Those are episodes I'd have expected to see in TNG - *not* DS9.
I love those two episodes though I understand that I'm in the minority. I'm a baseball nut so of course I adored "Take Me Out to the Holosuite" and like Travis explained, I loved that "badda-Bing" went back to the race question and addressed why Sisko didn't go to Vics. Plus, we got to hear Avery Brooks sing at the end of that episode and that's worth the price of admission.

I know part of the bottle episodes were to get the "new" Dax integrated into the cast and accepted by the viewing public but there were several outside that storyline that felt like writer's block stuff.
That is my main complaint about the final season. I disliked the new Dax and as much as I'm for having more women in the cast, I think they should not have brought in another actress. It was a war, people die and I think the writers could have explored that grief throughout the season. I liked the flashbacks in the finale but it pissed me off to no end that the old Dax wasn't included (I know behind it but still). That did a horrible disservice to the character.

In spite of my reservations about the series I just ordered S3 of The Next Generation and will start a viewing of that series in the near future, possibly before the end of the challenge. I purchased S1 & S2 a year or so back. Yes... it's the completist in me doing that. Since I own all the other Trek series my OCD will not allow me to *not* own TNG in spite of my general dislike of that one.
I'm a completist as well but I could not bring myself to buy S1 of TNG. I bought the sampler so I could have "Encounter at Farpoint" and that's it. Now that I have to re-buy all the seasons again, I'm still not buying S1. Just thinking about "Code of Honor" raises my blood pressure. S2 is horrible as well but "Measure of a Man" and "Q, Who" are two of my favorite episodes.

BobO'Link
01-03-15, 10:57 PM
"Take Me Out to the Holosuite", I'll concede is weak, though as a baseball fan I have a soft spot for it. "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang", however, stands as a strong point in the series. Star Trek has been praised all these decades for being racially progressive entertainment, but what DS9 did - particularly, but not exclusively, through Captain Sisko - was to call Trek out on its colorblindness. "It's just a TV show." "It's just a movie." "It's just a holosuite program." We hear, and maybe even say, these things all the time on behalf of something we like when it rankles someone else, and the counterargument from Sisko is that, no, it isn't "just" entertainment. These things matter, because of what they represent.
But the Sisko rant felt more like a writer had a agenda to push. Trek famously deals with social issues like that with a morality tale metaphor which brings out the issues without shoving them in your face. Yes, it was interesting to know *why* Sisko refused to visit Vic's but IMHO it truly didn't fit in the overall theme of that episode. It *might* have made more sense had he been shown consistantly refusing to visit Vic's with no explanation, but I don't recall his doing so in any other episode.

Not only that but Kasidy's reply of:
Going to Vic's isn't going to make us forget who we are or where we came from. What it does is reminds us we are no longer bound by any limitations.
just shows Sisko how immature, and illogical, *his* reason for avoiding Vic's, a holosuite reenactment, is. Of course he then *does* visit in the end totally negating his rant.

In the end it was just another in a long line of "We really don't have a good Trek premis so let's rework this old script for xxx to fit the holodeck" episodes. Yeah, it was a "fun" episode but it *wasn't* a "Trek" episode which is why I rate it as a lesser entry.

BobO'Link
01-03-15, 11:34 PM
That is my main complaint about the final season. I disliked the new Dax and as much as I'm for having more women in the cast, I think they should not have brought in another actress. It was a war, people die and I think the writers could have explored that grief throughout the season. I liked the flashbacks in the finale but it pissed me off to no end that the old Dax wasn't included (I know behind it but still). That did a horrible disservice to the character.
I really didn't notice that end-of-season ommision having skipped most of that section but it *is* a disservice to both the character *and* Terry Farrell. I also feel they could have just left the Dax character out that last season and made it all work quite well. I wonder what direction they had planned before Farrell's leaving the series and what was done differently due to that loss. Considering the number of character development episodes and segments for Ezri Dax it would seem to be rather significant.

I'm a completist as well but I could not bring myself to buy S1 of TNG. I bought the sampler so I could have "Encounter at Farpoint" and that's it. Now that I have to re-buy all the seasons again, I'm still not buying S1. Just thinking about "Code of Honor" raises my blood pressure. S2 is horrible as well but "Measure of a Man" and "Q, Who" are two of my favorite episodes.
As much as I dislike that first season my OCD will not allow me to leave it out. In spite of my initial dislike of "Encounter at Farpoint" I watched the entire first season. I don't like the "Q" character, or other "Godlike" characters who toy with the crew for no apparent reason other than to be annoying. There were a few of those in the TOS and I don't care much for them either. The presence of *families* on a military/exploration ship didn't work for me and there were several characters who rubbed me wrong, specifically Wesley Crusher (say what you will but a *kid* has *no* business on the bridge other than during a class tour) and William Riker (who struck me as a pompous prick).

I *really* wanted to like the series. I worked for a TV station which aired the series and was in charge of the "record calendar" (a list of what and on which days/times a program would be recorded for future airings). I had *two* copies of ST:TNG recorded every week and would go to the station on Sunday, the day following the new episode recording, edit the commercials out of one copy and dub it to VHS to watch again at home. As the season progressed I grew less and less fond of the series. After the 3rd or 4th episode of season 2, I removed that second copy from the schedule and recorded over all my home copies. Not only had they *not* changed anything I disliked about the series but Gates McFadden, a cast member I *did* like, had left and was replaced by Diana Muldaur. In all fairness I've *never* seen S2 other than a few isolated episodes so don't know how Muldaur worked as a replacement. Over the years I've seen several episodes *but* it seemed that most were either "leftover script" holodeck *or* Borg episodes - I really tuned in at inopportune times. I'm one of a handful of people who dislike the over reliance on the Borg and feel that they became another crutch for the writing staff. I *hated* when Jerri Ryan came on board Voyager as a "recovering" Borg but overall still felt those episodes played better than any I'd seen on TNG.

Anyway... I have S1-S3 and saw where the series is slated for a price reduction sometime around the middle of the month. That means I'll probably fast-track its purchase if the price drops significantly. That also means I *will* watch the series in its entirety for the first time. It's possible I'll change my mind once that's done but I'm going in not expecting much.

Travis McClain
01-04-15, 05:08 AM
I just finished The 4400 - The Fourth Season. To the best of my recollection, I never saw any of this season when it originally aired in 2007; I fell behind during the second season and never really caught up until DVD. I hate to say it, but I kinda feel this is a show that went a season too long. The third season brought so many plot points to a crescendo that this season found itself doing more of the same, only different - and often, it felt like, with less focus.

The losses of both Mahershalalhashbaz Ali and Karina Lombard were felt throughout this season; the former's return midway through was especially welcome. Ali brought a certain thoughtful, mature presence to the series and I think his absence had a lot to do with why this season felt as unfocused as it did. Lombard, conversely, imbued the second and third seasons with radiant warmth, and while Jenni Baird was certainly likable enough, having to succeed both Lombard and Samantha Ferris was asking a lot of her.

There are some solid episodes, certainly, and some nice moments between characters, but as I look back on it, I just can't shake the feeling that the third season finale was the high point of the series. I can't even really say that the end of the fourth season left me feeling a desire for more. It's not that it's a bad season, per se. It's just that it feels somewhat superfluous.

My favorite episode of the season is "Audrey Parker's Come and Gone", in which an elderly woman gains the ability to project herself outside her body. She roams the streets as a sort of glamorous snoop, and then has to aid in the investigation of her own death, which occurs while she's outside her body. It doesn't really advance the overall mythology at all, but that's perhaps why I found it so likable. There were several instances in other episodes where I felt universe-building was so dominant that it stopped being a show and was instead a show about a show. "Audrey Parker's..." was interesting on its own.

The DVD special features are pretty light. The series finale is presented in two cuts; the broadcast version, and the director's cut. I elected to watch the latter. There are deleted scenes for most episodes, which are annoyingly presented in a Special Features menu instead of grouped with their respective episodes. The remainder of the special features consist of a a series overview pieced together from interviews with principal cast and crew, a small piece on the character Jordan Collier, and a blooper reel. They're standard fluff fare; casual viewers can skip them without any fear of missing anything special.

Two episodes (including the aforementioned director's cut of the series finale) feature an audio commentary by series co-creator Scott Peters, and try as he might he just has a hard time carrying off an entire commentary solo. Most of his remarks consist of either telling us what's happening in the story on the screen, or recollections about a particular location or the weather on that day of shooting. There are no insights into the series to be found.

I don't know whether The 4400 should have ended sooner, or if it needed at least one more season to reach its full potential. As it is, I can only say that this fourth season can be taken as evidence either way.


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