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Old 11-12-14, 11:48 PM
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How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

I have no idea how a great actor like Nic Cage has become a B movie actor alongside the likes of Wesley Snipes, Steven Segal, Van Damme etc

Having starred in classics like Con Air, Face off, the Rock, Leaving Las Vegas, 8mm and Gone in 60 seconds, how the frack did this happen ?

I've also considered Nic Cage a quality actor as opposed to a 'flavour of the month' actor.

Does he have a bad agent or something ?
Old 11-12-14, 11:54 PM
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

Easy. He started to have money problems and took whatever job would pay him money.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/art...ollar-fortune/

When he couldn't stop spending money and blew over $150M in income.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

Sounds like you haven't seen Joe, or Bad Lieutenant.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

Call him a B Grade actor but I'd still match the best of his filmography up against an actor like Sean Penn anyday.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

I didn't realize people still considered him a great actor.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

He will hit rock bottom when he stars in a Asylum or SyFy movie.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

Originally Posted by Thrush
I didn't realize people still considered him a great actor.


Originally Posted by Chadm
Sounds like you haven't seen Joe, or Bad Lieutenant.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

In ten years, the next Tarantino will cast him in a showy role that gets him an Oscar nom and revives his career.

(Hmmm...now that I think of it, how great would Cage have been in DiCaprio's role in DJANGO UNCHAINED?)
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

Not great, I think. If we take the same template that is there I don't think it'd translate well to Cage. Maybe other actors but I don't think he'd slip in as well.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

Ya he did it by choice

But still can still put out a good performance whenever he chooses the right movie
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

The money problems and taking any job available is a big reason. He also gives the impression many times that he sees it as just another job and has no emotional investment in the role. Many times he plays the part shouty and over the top. That can fit some characters, but not all of them.

I don't think he is as far down as the others mentioned in the original post, and there is a good chance he will get another good role that will see his star power rise again. In the mean time he would be better suited to choosing roles better suited and limit them rather than taking everything that comes his way.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

he has been whatever for what now? 10 years? I think he's probably paid off what needed to be paid off now maybe...no?
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

Gone in 60 Seconds is a classic?
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

Did I miss anything from not watching that one? The Cage one...
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

If I were to choose good to great films of his, I would say:

Racing with the Moon
Birdy
Raising Arizona
Wild at Heart
Red Rock West
Rumble Fish
Bringing out the Dead
Leaving Las Vegas
Adaptation
Lord of War
The Weather Man
Bad Lieutenant
Joe
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

Joe is one of the best films released this year, and it's because of him.

He does a lot of B-movies but I wouldn't classify him as a B-actor. When he gives a shit he's excellent.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

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Joe is one of the best films released this year, and it's because of him.

He does a lot of B-movies but I wouldn't classify him as a B-actor. When he gives a shit he's excellent.
Absolutely. Although the late Gary Poulter really gave an Oscar-worthy performance as well.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

Originally Posted by Solid Snake
Did I miss anything from not watching that one? The Cage one...
I wouldn't say so, but car movies aren't my things. It has an interesting cast for sure, but other than it's pretty meh.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

Originally Posted by Solid Snake
Did I miss anything from not watching that one? The Cage one...
Angelina Jolie in grunge mode and a few moderately sexy cars.

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I mean has anyone here seen Left Behind ? Low budget drivel
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Wicker Man happened ... damn bees.
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

To me is an an average actor

He can be absolutely awful....and he can also be very good

That averages out to average
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Re: How/When did Nic Cage become a B Grade Movie Actor ?

I have 19 of his movies in my collection, so he's okay by me.

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