Spartacus: War of the Damned -- Series Finale -- "Victory" -- 4/12/13
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Spartacus: War of the Damned -- Series Finale -- "Victory" -- 4/12/13
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'Victory' Spartacus and his outnumbered rebels make one last attempt to win freedom in an epic final battle against the Romans.
Episode 10 of 10
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Final episode of the series tonight.
1st of all, I have to give huge props to Starz, Steven DeKnight, Andy Whitfield and even Liam McIntyre for making this show. Andy really set the tone for the show when it began. It's too bad he couldn't finish what he started. This had to have been one of the most difficult and physically exhausting shows to produce and I'm glad we got 3 seasons and a prequel series. After Andy Whitfield's death, this show would have been dead on any other network. Casting McIntyre was a gamble, but in the end, I think it paid off. Hope it goes out with a bang.
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I can't wait to watch this tonight... and I will miss this series.
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Someone refresh my memory... did we ever get an "I am Spartacus!" line?
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I've only watched the first 3 episodes so far. Haven't been into this year. To many good characters died last season. But maybe I'll watch the rest this weekend to see what you thought of the finale.
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Agreed. But I've pretty much felt that way about the whole season. For the first season, prequel, and part of season 2, it was all good. But somewhere along the line, a switch flipped and it felt like it was a march toward failure and death.
I wasn't ready for the show to end. Maybe flesh out the middle and prequels more. But this is what we want. We want our art to come in, say what it has to say, and leave. We don't want it to hang around and become the guest who won't go home. But why is it always the guest you actually like who decides not to overstay his welcome?
The story would have felt perfect to me if it could have ended in some other way, but that was never a possibility given it's rooted in history. Crassus did give a shoutout to Spartacus in the end in saying that it's unfortunate Spartacus was not born a citizen of Rome so that he could have been by his side. Unfortunately, with the exception of the Roman woman who was branded and coupled with Spartacus, the show doesn't really show any Romans who even entertained the thought, "You know, they're going to long lengths over this... maybe there's something to their goal." It was just, "We're Romans, we're better than you, accept your fate."
It was difficult to enjoy the episode watching the people fighting for freedom die. There was one line in the show I particularly liked. I can't quote it verbatim, but it said something along the lines of even with their death, the Roman empire will crumble, but people will forever remember the cause of freedom and the name of Spartacus. And has been said before... Everyone dies, but not everyone truly lives. Spartacus died. But even though his movement suffered catastrophic losses, it can't be called a complete failure.
I wasn't ready for the show to end. Maybe flesh out the middle and prequels more. But this is what we want. We want our art to come in, say what it has to say, and leave. We don't want it to hang around and become the guest who won't go home. But why is it always the guest you actually like who decides not to overstay his welcome?
The story would have felt perfect to me if it could have ended in some other way, but that was never a possibility given it's rooted in history. Crassus did give a shoutout to Spartacus in the end in saying that it's unfortunate Spartacus was not born a citizen of Rome so that he could have been by his side. Unfortunately, with the exception of the Roman woman who was branded and coupled with Spartacus, the show doesn't really show any Romans who even entertained the thought, "You know, they're going to long lengths over this... maybe there's something to their goal." It was just, "We're Romans, we're better than you, accept your fate."
It was difficult to enjoy the episode watching the people fighting for freedom die. There was one line in the show I particularly liked. I can't quote it verbatim, but it said something along the lines of even with their death, the Roman empire will crumble, but people will forever remember the cause of freedom and the name of Spartacus. And has been said before... Everyone dies, but not everyone truly lives. Spartacus died. But even though his movement suffered catastrophic losses, it can't be called a complete failure.
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Strong ending. Solid all the way around.
The Romans ultimately crushed the rebellion, but it still didn't feel like they were defeated. Crassus was robbed both of the credit for winning the war and the honor of killing Spartacus. Agron and Nasir got their happy ending. Spartacus didn't so much die as become a legend that we're still talking about two thousand years later.
The Romans ultimately crushed the rebellion, but it still didn't feel like they were defeated. Crassus was robbed both of the credit for winning the war and the honor of killing Spartacus. Agron and Nasir got their happy ending. Spartacus didn't so much die as become a legend that we're still talking about two thousand years later.
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IGN has an interview with Steven DeKnight about the finale. http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/...spinoff?page=1
Good decision to go against history and take Gannicus to the end.
Needs to happen. Moar Gannicus.
Good decision to go against history and take Gannicus to the end.
IGN: If it did happen -- and I know this is all speculative -- do you think it would be best to stay away from seeing Agron and Nasir and the surviving rebels again, just because we leave with them on a hopeful note?
DeKnight: Oh, absolutely. Definitely. I think if it goes on, I’ve always felt it would be great to follow the Caesar/Crassus/Pompey storyline. Or, if not that, I always have this little dream in the back of my head of those missing Gannicus years -- Gannicus, the wandering adventurer. Very much a Kane and Kung Fu kind of deal would be awesome.
DeKnight: Oh, absolutely. Definitely. I think if it goes on, I’ve always felt it would be great to follow the Caesar/Crassus/Pompey storyline. Or, if not that, I always have this little dream in the back of my head of those missing Gannicus years -- Gannicus, the wandering adventurer. Very much a Kane and Kung Fu kind of deal would be awesome.
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knowing history, I was not surprised that Gannicus died. However, given the ambiguity of Spartacus' death in the true historical record, I was convinced that his fate was going to be left vaguely open-ended. I assumed all of the peripheral players, Lugo, Saxa, Naevia, etc would die. I'm glad Agron and Nasir made it out alive. As soon as Agron demanded to fight in the final battle I thought he was going to be a goner for sure.
Overall a fantastic series, and a good ending.
I don't like prequel stuff, so a Gannicus spinoff would not be preferable, now knowing his ultimate fate within the show. But, who am I kidding, I would still watch.
A Caesar spinoff would be accepted with open arms and swollen cock.
I wonder how the show would have played out had Andy lived. If there would have been any creative differences. I wonder how would they have managed to introduce Gannicus if not given the unfortunate opportunity to have Gods of the Arena?
Oh, and the post credits tribute was touching, classy, and perfect. I have always been impressed on how gracious Liam McIntyre has been about replacing Andy. I'm sure he had no problems whatsoever having the last shown visage of Spartacus be Andy's face and not his own.
Overall a fantastic series, and a good ending.
I don't like prequel stuff, so a Gannicus spinoff would not be preferable, now knowing his ultimate fate within the show. But, who am I kidding, I would still watch.
A Caesar spinoff would be accepted with open arms and swollen cock.
I wonder how the show would have played out had Andy lived. If there would have been any creative differences. I wonder how would they have managed to introduce Gannicus if not given the unfortunate opportunity to have Gods of the Arena?
Oh, and the post credits tribute was touching, classy, and perfect. I have always been impressed on how gracious Liam McIntyre has been about replacing Andy. I'm sure he had no problems whatsoever having the last shown visage of Spartacus be Andy's face and not his own.
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As much as I wanted him to live, I agree with the interview I saw that it's hard to believe if Spartacus escaped, he'd just go off and live a life of peace and solitude. The more likely scenario is we'd have heard from him again. Thus, the ending we got seemed correct to me.
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It would have been great if the show veered off history. Here what I wanted in this episode:
1. Spartacus killing Crassus, capturing Caesar, defeats Pompeii.
2. He conquers Rome and becomes Emperor to free all slaves.
3. Gannicus and others survive to become generals of Spartacus.
4. Next season, Hannibal or some great threat shows up to sack Rome and Spartacus must defend all Romans and freed slaves from certain death.
I think this show could have another season.
1. Spartacus killing Crassus, capturing Caesar, defeats Pompeii.
2. He conquers Rome and becomes Emperor to free all slaves.
3. Gannicus and others survive to become generals of Spartacus.
4. Next season, Hannibal or some great threat shows up to sack Rome and Spartacus must defend all Romans and freed slaves from certain death.
I think this show could have another season.
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Epic series finale. I thought both Season 2 and this year took a few episodes to get going, but around episode 5 of each, they became great. Even though we roughly knew what had to happen, I loved the way it all played out. I would really like Starz to do something else with this universe - be it a Gannicus prequel (HELL FUCKING YEAH) or a Caesar spin-off. I am in for whatever they decide...but if nothing happens, this was a glorious end.
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Fantastic ending... I will miss this series a lot. Liam grew on me all the while I miss Andy, the final product was pretty damn good.
Gannicus was awesome since gods of the arena. They should go with Caeser if they want to continue this universe. I want more... stories from this era. =)
Gannicus was awesome since gods of the arena. They should go with Caeser if they want to continue this universe. I want more... stories from this era. =)
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The interesting thing for me is that even though they were antagonists I never really saw Caesar and Crassus as villains, just soldiers defending their homeland. Even still I thought the ending was good but not great. I'm actually cool with Spartacus biting the dust but I did expect Gannicus to make it. Great series though, I'll totally buy a complete set on BluRay.
Now if you wanna see something funny Samuel L Jackson did commentary during the last episode on his Twitter. Even Liam replied it was so funny.
Now if you wanna see something funny Samuel L Jackson did commentary during the last episode on his Twitter. Even Liam replied it was so funny.
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man, one of the best shows ever made
damn shame Whitfield couldn't of made it to the end
really nice of them to put him in there at the end of the credits
damn shame Whitfield couldn't of made it to the end
really nice of them to put him in there at the end of the credits
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For a minute there, I thought they were going to throw history out the window and have Spartacus win. When Gannicus attacked the rear of the Roman army and took the artillery, I thought that was it. Especially when they pulled back for a long range CGI shot and the numbers looked pretty damned even. Hell, if it had happened that way in real life, Spartacus would have won even if he had smaller numbers. In classical warfare, just about any time any army - including Roman armies - were caught in the rear like that by any size force, they would panic and break.
And I knew Crassus would end up crucifying Kore.
And I knew Crassus would end up crucifying Kore.