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The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

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Old 08-26-12, 03:31 AM
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The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

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In the Season 1 finale, Mac is shaken by a potentially devastating revelation from gossip columnist Nina Howard. Meanwhile, Sloan mulls a new job opportunity; Neal's Internet alias could prevent a catastrophe; and Will, Mac and Charlie confront Leona and Reese during a volatile lunch meeting.


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In case you didn't already know, HBO already renewed this for a second season.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Disappointed that of all the cribbing Sorkin does from his other shows this episode title isn't "What Kind of Day Has It Been?"
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

I thought he was gonna get shot there at the end.
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There are good things about this show, but the relationships are cringe worthy. I don't understand why he feels so compelled to push these forced, contrived ones when he has a lot to work with.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Some good moments but once again Mac is the worst part, although her reveal with the notes was well done.
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I guess the biggest accomplishment this show has done is that I hate Olivia Munn slightly less than I did when the show began.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

I liked it well enough. The constant speeches got a little tiring however.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Ok finale. But it really came off as a left-leaning talking points show with a smidge of extraneous character moments. The voter ID debate had me rolling my eyes. I don't know what to expect next season, but I heard Sorkin is tapping some actual conservative advisors, so we'll see.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

I liked it enough to tune in again next season.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Well the voter ID part is a part of the show that makes the most sense for what a good news program should cover. It should be a big deal on the news. Sadly, it's relegated to Sorkin's universe instead of the nightly news or cable.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Loved it. Especially the end with Sororrity Girl. I thought the answer he was going to give her was the note Mac wrote so I was genuinely surprised when he said "You."

If there's one thing they failed to establish for me this season is the WHY Jim is into Maggie. Lisa's had more character development than Maggie, who more often than not comes off as irritating.

Absolutely loved Olivia Munn in this episode. That was a great tender moment between her and Don and she nailed that "bad guy" speech perfectly.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Originally Posted by albert_m
Well the voter ID part is a part of the show that makes the most sense for what a good news program should cover. It should be a big deal on the news. Sadly, it's relegated to Sorkin's universe instead of the nightly news or cable.
Agreed. So far it's here and the Daily Show that it has gotten the most attention it seems.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

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The voter ID debate had me rolling my eyes.
Care to elaborate? You can't seriously deny that it's a problem?

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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Originally Posted by Kal-El
If there's one thing they failed to establish for me this season is the WHY Jim is into Maggie. Lisa's had more character development than Maggie, who more often than not comes off as irritating.
Both Jim and Maggie's characters acted like idiots in the finale...to the point where they both deserve to be unhappy - at least for a while. I don't know about you, but if I were dating someone like Maggie and someone like Sloan told me she'd always had the hots for me, I'd dump Maggie so fast her head would spin. So I guess that makes Don dumber than Jim and Maggie put together.
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Sloan and Lisa are both more interesting characters than Maggie and especially Sloan, though her confession to Don was awful. In general all of the relationship story lines have been pretty bad.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Let me ask this so I didn't misinterpret the episode:

The guy who committed suicide never provided any actual evidence that Jane Fonda's son (sorry, can't remember either character's name!) hacked phones...they just were playing a hunch and got him to admit it.

Also, I gathered that the TMI blonde didn't actually hack Mac's phone...but instead that a drugged-up Will sent his phone message to the WRONG person (the TMI blonde instead of Mac). Is that right? Or did they actually hack Mac's phone? I wasn't sure which was true.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Let me ask this so I didn't misinterpret the episode:

The guy who committed suicide never provided any actual evidence that Jane Fonda's son (sorry, can't remember either character's name!) hacked phones...they just were playing a hunch and got him to admit it.
That's what I understood.
Also, I gathered that the TMI blonde didn't actually hack Mac's phone...but instead that a drugged-up Will sent his phone message to the WRONG person (the TMI blonde instead of Mac). Is that right? Or did they actually hack Mac's phone? I wasn't sure which was true.
I believe they did hack Mac's phone.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Also, they recorded Reese admitting to it. Sure, it was a risky move for them to act like they had the evidence, but as soon as he admitted it, that was all they really wanted or needed.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

I was kinda hoping they'd show the TMI woman killing herself. The close up of "Empty Trash" was a bit heavy handed. Also, the whole 180 of her character, trying to make her sympathetic was sorta, well, pathetic.

Anyone know notice Jim's last name is Harper? Maybe it was revealed earlier but I just found it kinda funny that there was a Jim Harper who is pining over a girl he works with who is currently in a relationship with another guy in the office. Not at all like Jim Halpert of The Office, not at all.

However... this show is otherwise brilliant.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

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Care to elaborate? You can't seriously deny that it's a problem?

it's not a problem when your goal is to block blacks and Mexicans from voting.
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it's not a problem when your goal is to block blacks and Mexicans from voting.
What, can't they get IDs?
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The voter ID thing is tough because conservatives in a vacuum have a point. I value voting enough to want there to never be fraud. The problem is that if I wanted to commit voter fraud, I could spend 10 minutes and do probably 100 times as much voter fraud by absentee ballot as I could buy trying to vote as some dead person in person or what have you with essentially no risk.

Voter ID laws are like making sure that there is a $500 lock on your second story windows when the door to the front of your house is missing.
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

I think the chance of voter fraud is minor compared to the major risk of one of those Diebold machines giving an inaccurate count (whether by glitch or by intentional tampering/hacking).
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Originally Posted by boogieman03
What, can't they get IDs?
It's an extra hassle. Everybody's always saying not enough people vote. Why alienate a significant group of people?
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Re: The Newsroom -- Season Finale -- "The Greater Fool" -- 8/26/12

Originally Posted by actionjackson29
It's an extra hassle. Everybody's always saying not enough people vote. Why alienate a significant group of people?
That is a question that answers itself. Frankly, though, I would like to hope most people for these laws aren't trying to suppress the vote. Trying to take rights away from people is repugnant and is something I would only accuse the hard core political activists (from both sides frankly) of being capable of attempting.


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