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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
I fucking loved it - saw the midnight IMAX and thought visually, it was excellent. A lot of great production design and the 3D was very immersive. I liked that there were a lot of big ideas they through out there, even if none of them really get fleshed out.
I feel a lot of the characters did make stupid decisions, but in a movie like this, I'm fine with it to a point. Sure we don't really care about many of the characters (Nothing in the film makes me care for them, but I bring baggage of already liking people like Elba to the film) and there were a few moments that really needed to be expanded (like what was happening to Holloway and when the mineral dude showed up for that final time). Fassbender stole the movie, even if his motivations are mysterious. The special effects were great though, and I really like almost anything to do with the Engineers and how they were complete pricks
I wasn't a fan of the score overall, but the rest of the sound design was great. I need to see it again to take it all in and probably will reserve my star rating until then, but even when I was frustrated with the film, I was still having a great time, so I can overlook most of the flaws that are clearly there. I am eager for a sequel and hope this makes enough cash to make one possible.
I feel a lot of the characters did make stupid decisions, but in a movie like this, I'm fine with it to a point. Sure we don't really care about many of the characters (Nothing in the film makes me care for them, but I bring baggage of already liking people like Elba to the film) and there were a few moments that really needed to be expanded (like what was happening to Holloway and when the mineral dude showed up for that final time). Fassbender stole the movie, even if his motivations are mysterious. The special effects were great though, and I really like almost anything to do with the Engineers and how they were complete pricks
I wasn't a fan of the score overall, but the rest of the sound design was great. I need to see it again to take it all in and probably will reserve my star rating until then, but even when I was frustrated with the film, I was still having a great time, so I can overlook most of the flaws that are clearly there. I am eager for a sequel and hope this makes enough cash to make one possible.
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
I have to say, I kind of got chills when David was imitating Peter O'Toole. Fassbender is fucking amazing.
Upon reflection, it wasn't as bad as I thought. Going again to see it in IMAX and with the knowledge that it's not a direct prequel to Alien .
I too had a problem with what happened with Vickers. She seemed a somewhat pointless character whose sole function is walking around in spandex for eye-humping purposes, which I've noticed is consistent with many of her roles (Aeon Flux, 2 Days in the Valley).
One possible theory I do have that makes her interesting:
Take that FWIW. Kind of interesting that Scott wants to re-visit the worlds of both of his sci-fi efforts so close together, don't you think? Maybe he's trying to tie everything together.
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Upon reflection, it wasn't as bad as I thought. Going again to see it in IMAX and with the knowledge that it's not a direct prequel to Alien .
I too had a problem with what happened with Vickers. She seemed a somewhat pointless character whose sole function is walking around in spandex for eye-humping purposes, which I've noticed is consistent with many of her roles (Aeon Flux, 2 Days in the Valley).
One possible theory I do have that makes her interesting:
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Take that FWIW. Kind of interesting that Scott wants to re-visit the worlds of both of his sci-fi efforts so close together, don't you think? Maybe he's trying to tie everything together.
Also:
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
I too went to a midnight IMAX 3D showing. I loved it!
Right from the onset, this is an Alien prequel film....although it also isn't. There is so much going on in this, but you really did not need to be a fan of the Alien franchise to get what was going on.
Rapace was good, is she future leading lady material, that I can't say. Fassbender on the other hand steals the movie with very little effort. I also loved the fact he looked like Bowie, which all of cohorts with me last night did not even pick up on.
Another aspect I loved was how practical most of the effects in the film were. Can you tell when there is CG, yes. But for the most part, it wasn't like an overpowering Michael Bay CG-fest. And the sound design for this was, pardon the pun, out of this world. I have always liked films that make you feel like you are in them. This one did it perfectly. I do expect some Oscar nods.
The one thing I did not like was the actual 3D. While it is used perfectly, it felt a little off. Now this could be because I wear glasses, but I did experience some dizziness while watching. But Scott totally understands how 3D works and uses it to create atmosphere, rather then a plot device.
This is without a doubt one of the best films of 2012 so far. I hope the home video release comes out before Christmas.
Right from the onset, this is an Alien prequel film....although it also isn't. There is so much going on in this, but you really did not need to be a fan of the Alien franchise to get what was going on.
Rapace was good, is she future leading lady material, that I can't say. Fassbender on the other hand steals the movie with very little effort. I also loved the fact he looked like Bowie, which all of cohorts with me last night did not even pick up on.
Another aspect I loved was how practical most of the effects in the film were. Can you tell when there is CG, yes. But for the most part, it wasn't like an overpowering Michael Bay CG-fest. And the sound design for this was, pardon the pun, out of this world. I have always liked films that make you feel like you are in them. This one did it perfectly. I do expect some Oscar nods.
The one thing I did not like was the actual 3D. While it is used perfectly, it felt a little off. Now this could be because I wear glasses, but I did experience some dizziness while watching. But Scott totally understands how 3D works and uses it to create atmosphere, rather then a plot device.
This is without a doubt one of the best films of 2012 so far. I hope the home video release comes out before Christmas.
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Now that more people have seen it, I'm going to get into some detail about what I thought were problems (spoilered for length and content and so people sick of hearing me whining don't have to look at it):
That's just off the top of my head but as you can see my list of complaints is long and the more I think about it the more problems I find.
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That's just off the top of my head but as you can see my list of complaints is long and the more I think about it the more problems I find.
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In the abortion scene, her cut up abdomen looked ridiculous. The CGI engineer did not mesh well with the guy in the suit engineer. That's two examples.
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Now that more people have seen it, I'm going to get into some detail about what I thought were problems (spoilered for length and content and so people sick of hearing me whining don't have to look at it):
That's just off the top of my head but as you can see my list of complaints is long and the more I think about it the more problems I find.
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That's just off the top of my head but as you can see my list of complaints is long and the more I think about it the more problems I find.
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
I agree with matrixrok9, I enjoyed the film for the reasons you didn't as well. As for the CGI, I don't agree. I though it was very well done.
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Saw it last night at The Dome.
I loved it. The visual fx and cinematography were outstanding. I think the mixed reviews are what they are, because this is not standard horror fare. The first film was routine, but had never been presented in that way before.
Prometheus has so many layers that one has to peel off. I think the majority of the haters wanted the template of Alien over to Prometheus. They're sorely mistaken if they think it's anything like Alien.
I loved it. The visual fx and cinematography were outstanding. I think the mixed reviews are what they are, because this is not standard horror fare. The first film was routine, but had never been presented in that way before.
Prometheus has so many layers that one has to peel off. I think the majority of the haters wanted the template of Alien over to Prometheus. They're sorely mistaken if they think it's anything like Alien.
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Saw it last night at The Dome.
I loved it. The visual fx and cinematography were outstanding. I think the mixed reviews are what they are, because this is not standard horror fare. The first film was routine, but had never been presented in that way before.
Prometheus has so many layers that one has to peel off. I think the majority of the haters wanted the template of Alien over to Prometheus. They're sorely mistaken if they think it's anything like Alien.
I loved it. The visual fx and cinematography were outstanding. I think the mixed reviews are what they are, because this is not standard horror fare. The first film was routine, but had never been presented in that way before.
Prometheus has so many layers that one has to peel off. I think the majority of the haters wanted the template of Alien over to Prometheus. They're sorely mistaken if they think it's anything like Alien.
Not to say their opinions aren't valid, I personally did not agree with a lot of them.
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
I think the majority of the haters wanted the template of Alien over to Prometheus. They're sorely mistaken if they think it's anything like Alien.
I was actually enjoying the film quite a lot for the first 40 or minutes or so, and then:
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I was also pissed by the stuff with the engineer:
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There's a difference between being ambiguous/leaving things up to interpretation and simply throwing in a bunch of random shit and hoping that it seems "deep."
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People don't always (In fact, I'd say they almost never...) make the smartest decisions. Just check out any thread in Otter for proof of this.
I've always failed to understand how characters not making the absolute smartest decision in a given situation is an actual valid criticism.
I've always failed to understand how characters not making the absolute smartest decision in a given situation is an actual valid criticism.
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
If there were one or two bad decisions, fine. If everyone consistently makes the worst decisions, I don't buy it.
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Just got back, and I enjoyed it. Glad I saw it at a faux-imax screen, because that really does help with the enormity of the ships. I also didn't mind the 3d. I wouldn't have paid to see it in 3d if that wasn't the only screening that would work for my schedule, so I bit the bullet, and I wasn't let down. Usually the 3d doesn't look good to me when a movie is chaotic (the Spidey trailer in 3d looked awful to me), but because Prometheus is a slower paced movie, I was able to take it all in.
I must say that I didn't really care for the Engineers. I think they looked king of silly, and I don't like how this really alien franchise has become very earth-centric with the retcons of this movie. Maybe they would have been fine, if not for the other creatures in this series, the Aliens proper, being such original and iconic beasts. The Engineers were just super-sized versions of Powder. That took all of the tension out of the confrontations had with it, because of how silly it looked.
It makes me less interested in a potential sequel on the Engineers home-planet, if it deals more with that race, and their planet isn't overun by face-huggers.
Also, who's idea was it to make Idris Elba talk in a southern accent? That shit was so wrong, on so many levels.
That stuff aside, it was a pretty looking movie, that I really enjoyed losing myself in for a couple of hours. It definitely has some problems, but none of them bothered me while watching. There are a lot of questions swirling around in my head, especially about the ending, that I'm sure will be discussed into the ground by nerds of this franchise like myself.
I do have one question, though, about the ending.
I must say that I didn't really care for the Engineers. I think they looked king of silly, and I don't like how this really alien franchise has become very earth-centric with the retcons of this movie. Maybe they would have been fine, if not for the other creatures in this series, the Aliens proper, being such original and iconic beasts. The Engineers were just super-sized versions of Powder. That took all of the tension out of the confrontations had with it, because of how silly it looked.
It makes me less interested in a potential sequel on the Engineers home-planet, if it deals more with that race, and their planet isn't overun by face-huggers.
Also, who's idea was it to make Idris Elba talk in a southern accent? That shit was so wrong, on so many levels.
That stuff aside, it was a pretty looking movie, that I really enjoyed losing myself in for a couple of hours. It definitely has some problems, but none of them bothered me while watching. There are a lot of questions swirling around in my head, especially about the ending, that I'm sure will be discussed into the ground by nerds of this franchise like myself.
I do have one question, though, about the ending.
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I'll say that it felt like one of those stories that a person starts a page and people after that add their own. It was a jumbled mess. There was no flow. The only thing I want right now is the same questions Shaw has for the makers, "why?"
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Just got back, and I enjoyed it. Glad I saw it at a faux-imax screen, because that really does help with the enormity of the ships. I also didn't mind the 3d. I wouldn't have paid to see it in 3d if that wasn't the only screening that would work for my schedule, so I bit the bullet, and I wasn't let down. Usually the 3d doesn't look good to me when a movie is chaotic (the Spidey trailer in 3d looked awful to me), but because Prometheus is a slower paced movie, I was able to take it all in.
I must say that I didn't really care for the Engineers. I think they looked king of silly, and I don't like how this really alien franchise has become very earth-centric with the retcons of this movie. Maybe they would have been fine, if not for the other creatures in this series, the Aliens proper, being such original and iconic beasts. The Engineers were just super-sized versions of Powder. That took all of the tension out of the confrontations had with it, because of how silly it looked.
It makes me less interested in a potential sequel on the Engineers home-planet, if it deals more with that race, and their planet isn't overun by face-huggers.
Also, who's idea was it to make Idris Elba talk in a southern accent? That shit was so wrong, on so many levels.
That stuff aside, it was a pretty looking movie, that I really enjoyed losing myself in for a couple of hours. It definitely has some problems, but none of them bothered me while watching. There are a lot of questions swirling around in my head, especially about the ending, that I'm sure will be discussed into the ground by nerds of this franchise like myself.
I do have one question, though, about the ending.
I must say that I didn't really care for the Engineers. I think they looked king of silly, and I don't like how this really alien franchise has become very earth-centric with the retcons of this movie. Maybe they would have been fine, if not for the other creatures in this series, the Aliens proper, being such original and iconic beasts. The Engineers were just super-sized versions of Powder. That took all of the tension out of the confrontations had with it, because of how silly it looked.
It makes me less interested in a potential sequel on the Engineers home-planet, if it deals more with that race, and their planet isn't overun by face-huggers.
Also, who's idea was it to make Idris Elba talk in a southern accent? That shit was so wrong, on so many levels.
That stuff aside, it was a pretty looking movie, that I really enjoyed losing myself in for a couple of hours. It definitely has some problems, but none of them bothered me while watching. There are a lot of questions swirling around in my head, especially about the ending, that I'm sure will be discussed into the ground by nerds of this franchise like myself.
I do have one question, though, about the ending.
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