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Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Ah well, I'm a sucker for that ambiguous, cryptically vague narrative. It does get old. But I think that I can hang on for two hours.
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
I got a free ticket that'll pay for the 3D price. Soooooo...I'm good. If it's merely good..well at least I didn't pay for it.
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Got a chance to see it tonight while I'm in the UK. I guess I wanted more of the xenomorphs and the explanation of what they are is really vague. Also there are continuity issues that took me out of it in spots. The self sacrifice at the beginning of the movie by the meta-human (for lack of a better word) didn't help and just served to confuse me when it came to David giving some of the liquid to Charles. Was he to evolve at a rapid rate? Was it the introduction of the Xenomorph DNA? There's a lot to play with to make the movie more cohesive, but it comes out a mess.
#30
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
If nothing else this movie looks stunning. The biggest problem is probably the lack of proper characters and the cliched horror movie moments. Plenty to admire though and it's certainly not a let down. Well, not to me anyway..
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I thought this was almost a complete stinker. Fassbender is exceptional, but the plot is awful. The characters act irrationally, and there are too many of them to begin with. The premise really is exactly the same as AvP, and the end reminded me more of Alien: Resurrection than anything else. Ridley Scott seems to have completely forgotten what made the first film scary, because this movie is big, loud and overly complicated. It has none of the elegance or grace of Alien, and the villain(s) are ridiculous.
I knew this movie wouldn't be as good as Alien, but I'm very disappointed in how badly it turned out. Somebody stop Ridley before he ruins Blade Runner as well.
I knew this movie wouldn't be as good as Alien, but I'm very disappointed in how badly it turned out. Somebody stop Ridley before he ruins Blade Runner as well.
#34
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
I'll see it tomorrow, but do you think there might be salvation in your view with a Director's Cut? Does it feel like there might have been any outside tinkering or that it was meant to be a longer movie?
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
The movie isn't as bad as supermallet is making out. It has its flaws certainly but there are plenty of positives, and I think it ends up in credit overall. It's a fun movie when taken on its own and only really fails completely if your expectations are sky high due to the universe of films (first 2, anyway) it is associated with.
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
I think a director's cut could help aspects of the film, but there are some fundamental storytelling flaws in the film that I can't imagine any director's cut would fix. I could be wrong.
Also there are several instances of absolutely awful CGI that seemed out of place in such a big budget film.
Also there are several instances of absolutely awful CGI that seemed out of place in such a big budget film.
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Oh, and I know I harp on this a lot, but creature design really is in the doldrums these days. Prometheus uses a lot of Giger-inspired stuff for the ship (and obviously the space jockeys are taken straight from Alien), but when they introduce new elements, they look like the same crappy JJ Abrams-inspired junk we've seen far too much of lately.
#41
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
I don't think JJ Abrams stuff was junk. It wasn't top of heap, but it wasn't junk.
I think the key to this will be keeping my expectations modest and just enjoying it for what it is, not what I thought it might be.
I think the key to this will be keeping my expectations modest and just enjoying it for what it is, not what I thought it might be.
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The JJ Abrams school of creature design is "everything and the kitchen sink". His style of creatures have an uncountable amount of appendages, eyes, and openings. There are no lines to draw the eye, as these creatures are masses of conflicting movement. There's no grace, no sense of aesthetics. Compare that to the Xenomorph or even the Predator and it's no contest. Why anyone would make a movie in the Alien universe and not use Giger-style designs for the creatures is beyond me.
It's even more incongruous because all of the architectural designs are 100% out of the Giger playbook, and upon looking it up it appears that Giger did do some building designs for the film (which is probably why some of the stuff looks like it was re-used from Giger's old designs for Jodorowsky's production of Dune that never got off the ground).
Edit: And apparently the creature designer, Neville Page, was also the creature designer for Super 8.
It's even more incongruous because all of the architectural designs are 100% out of the Giger playbook, and upon looking it up it appears that Giger did do some building designs for the film (which is probably why some of the stuff looks like it was re-used from Giger's old designs for Jodorowsky's production of Dune that never got off the ground).
Edit: And apparently the creature designer, Neville Page, was also the creature designer for Super 8.
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Okay, after thinking about it, this is how I think Prometheus could have been a good, nay, a great film (only read if you've seen the movie):
Those are just some thoughts that I think would have made a vastly better film.
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Those are just some thoughts that I think would have made a vastly better film.
#46
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
From what I read, Giger did do some mural and building designs from the film, plus his designs for the Space Jockey ship is re-used in its entirety, so yes, he gets credit.
#47
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Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
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It's frustrating that many things could have been improved about this movie, though at the same time there are still plenty of impressive moments and nice little ideas. Flawed certainly, but better than Sunshine - which had the same oriental fella in it.
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#50
Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
This little blurb from Ty Burr of the Boston Globe was pretty funny.
"Watching "Prometheus" is like opening a deluxe gift box from Tiffany's to find a mug from the dollar store."
"Watching "Prometheus" is like opening a deluxe gift box from Tiffany's to find a mug from the dollar store."