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Old 02-16-11, 05:47 AM
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Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

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Synopsis for "Two of a Kind"

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Child abductions in Cleveland are investigated in the opener of a "Criminal Minds" spin-off that follows an elite group within the BAU, led by Sam Cooper (Forest Whitaker), that uses unique and aggressive methods to hunt criminals.


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CRIMINAL MINDS: SUSPECT BEHAVIOR is a drama about an elite team of agents within the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit (BAU) who use unconventional methods of investigation and aggressive tactics to capture the nation's most nefarious criminals. Unit chief Special Agent Sam Cooper is a mentally and physically fierce natural leader who is not afraid to put his career on the line in order to stand by his convictions. Cooper strives to avoid political bureaucracy and has handpicked an eclectic group of profilers to work outside the confines of Quantico. They include strong-willed and outspoken Beth Griffith, the newest member of the team who joins them from the FBI Threat Assessment Task Force; former British Special Forces soldier Mick Rawson, who is confident and handsome and works as a highly skilled marksman with an undiluted eye for rooting out evil; John "Prophet" Sims, a former convict with a street-smart edge and a calm, Zen-like presence who is determined to make amends for past sins; Gina LaSalle, an attractive, tough agent armed with a cunning sense of perception; and Penelope Garcia, a computer wizard who has spent years aiding Agent Hotchner and his BAU team on its toughest cases. This exceptional group of FBI operatives is strong in their beliefs and steadfast in their mission to bring the country's most dangerous criminals to justice.
Starring:
Forest Whitaker
Janeane Garofalo
Michael Kelly
Beau Garrett
Kirsten Vangsness as Garcia (She's a series regular on this and Criminal Minds)

Guest star:
Richard Schiff (The West Wing)

13 episode 1st season. Ed Bernero, the showrunner for Criminal Minds, is also head writer and showrunner for this spinoff.

Trailer:

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I'm a fan of Criminal Minds, but I didn't like the idea of a spinoff. The backdoor Pilot that aired last season on Criminal Minds wasn't that good. But, I'm willing to give this shot as I like Whitaker and at least Garcia is in this as well. I just don't get how 2 BAU teams are working at the same time. The trailer does look good.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

So did anyone here check this out tonight?

I would probably give this episode a solid C as Entertainment Weekly gave it.

For the most part, I like Forest Whitaker, but he seems to give a very lazy performance here as Cooper. I think his team definitely doesn't have the same charm as the original BAU team. I didn't really like them in the Criminal Minds backdooor Pilot last season and they still don't really impress me. I'm not a huge fan of Janeane Garofalo and I don't give a shit about her political views, which she seems to get flack for, but I found her to be a good 2nd lead character on this show. She played a pretty straight forward FBI agent.

The opening graphic that introduced this team as the "Red Cell" division of the BAU, reporting directly to the Director seemed so hokey. I wonder if Richard Schiff will make any future appearances. And how come we've never seen the Director of the FBI on the original Criminal Minds?

Another problem I had was it didn't set up this team and the characters well, especially if you didn't see the backdoor Pilot. It felt like we were jumping into episode 10 of this show.

Seeing Garcia on here was a little weird. I know they probably cast her on this show to give original Criminal Minds fans some familiarity and have some tie-in to the original, but it seems a little desperate if you can't have trust that this group can carry the show.

Raphael Sbarge was a decent villain, but the case didn't really make much sense. I did think the kid actors were good.

Unfortunately if you missed this, your not going to be able to see it online as Criminal Minds & this doesn't get posted online legally since it's a co-production with ABC. Since this airs right after Criminal Minds, I will continue to watch and see how it goes.

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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

shit. i totally missed it. fuck.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

I have a hard time buying Garafolo as a FBI agent, but weekly doses of Beau Garrett, tough trade-off...
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

It was just okay. The cast doesn't gel but it's just the premiere. And Forest Whitaker - why did he sound like he was having breathing problems during ever line? He was even struggling for breath in scenes were he was walking. I will say that he was sporting some cool ass jackets, though.
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Maybe the repo man came for a lung or something.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

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It was just okay. The cast doesn't gel but it's just the premiere. And Forest Whitaker - why did he sound like he was having breathing problems during ever line? He was even struggling for breath in scenes were he was walking. I will say that he was sporting some cool ass jackets, though.
Totally agree - JAFP (just another f***in procedural). Same shit, different cast. I noticed Whitaker's breathing problems too and I thought he looked terrible. He lost weight, but he did not look healthy. I saw him on Letterman the other night and he seemed better so maybe he had the flu or something when that was filmed.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

FYI this did really well last night. 12.9M viewers and 3.3 in the demos. It's going to be around for awhile.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

Originally Posted by Deftones
shit. i totally missed it. fuck.
Just DVR next week. Like any procedural, there isn't much recurring plotline.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

I was shocked to see Kirsten Vangness on the credits as a series regular. I wouldn't have been shocked to have seen what they did with Pauley Perrette on NCIS LA, appearing as a special guest star once in a while to get the show going... But seeing her in the title sequence as a regular? That was pretty surprising.

Anyway, it brought to mind a question when I watched it on my DVR a few hours ago, that I'm dying to have answered. Has an actor ever been a series regular on two shows at the same time? Not "This show was canceled, and we are burning off episodes filmed a year ago." while their new show premieres. I mean an actor being a series regular on two shows at the same time, when both shows were filming simultaneously? I'm sure it's happened at some point... But I have to imagine this is the first time an actor has been a series regular on two shows as the same character.

I definitely wouldn't mind being Vangness... Two series regular credits, and two paychecks as a series regular. For a character that films her scenes all on the same set, for both shows. The residuals she'll get, getting paid for 44 episodes a year... Unless she gets a massive slash in pay compared to the other actors since she isn't "out in the field", she must have been on cloud nine when told "Hey, we are adding you as a cast member to Suspect Behavior. And you'll still be a regular on the original."
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

Originally Posted by coladar
I was shocked to see Kirsten Vangness on the credits as a series regular. I wouldn't have been shocked to have seen what they did with Pauley Perrette on NCIS LA, appearing as a special guest star once in a while to get the show going... But seeing her in the title sequence as a regular? That was pretty surprising.

Anyway, it brought to mind a question when I watched it on my DVR a few hours ago, that I'm dying to have answered. Has an actor ever been a series regular on two shows at the same time? Not "This show was canceled, and we are burning off episodes filmed a year ago." while their new show premieres. I mean an actor being a series regular on two shows at the same time, when both shows were filming simultaneously? I'm sure it's happened at some point... But I have to imagine this is the first time an actor has been a series regular on two shows as the same character.

I definitely wouldn't mind being Vangness... Two series regular credits, and two paychecks as a series regular. For a character that films her scenes all on the same set, for both shows. The residuals she'll get, getting paid for 44 episodes a year... Unless she gets a massive slash in pay compared to the other actors since she isn't "out in the field", she must have been on cloud nine when told "Hey, we are adding you as a cast member to Suspect Behavior. And you'll still be a regular on the original."
I can think of one.

Tahmoh Penikett was a series regular on Dollhouse season 1 and Battlestar Galactica's final season in 2009 at the same time. And to top it off they both aired the same day. Granted he finished work on Battlestar months before he started Dollhouse.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

Janeane Garofalo was an FBI Agent in Clay Pigeons. She did a great job.....though it was more of a comedy.

This show sucks though. Unsub, unsub, unsub, unsub unsub!
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Originally Posted by skacore

This show sucks though. Unsub, unsub, unsub, unsub unsub!
Clear!

Clear!

Clear!

I was laughing so hard. Whitaker's character was last everywhere and it seemed like he just had to say clear because everyone else did. That very well may be protocol but it just sounded phony here.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

Originally Posted by skacore
Janeane Garofalo was an FBI Agent in Clay Pigeons. She did a great job.....though it was more of a comedy.

This show sucks though. Unsub, unsub, unsub, unsub unsub!
Do you watch the original Criminal Minds? Unsub is used all the time. I don't know why some people find it annoying. It means Unknown subject.

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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

It's a terrible sounding slang. Hated it when I first watched the original CM, and ditched the show after about half a season.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

This didn't click for me, though I don't like Garrafalo or Whitaker much. As for the breathing thing, he always sounds like that, kinda took me out of S5(?) of The Sheild, though I got used to it watching them back to back.
Am I missing something, hasn't Garcia been traveling with the original team during this season? How can she be in two places at once?
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Do you watch the original Criminal Minds? Unsub is used all the time. I don't know why some people find it annoying. It means Unknown subject.

Yes. I marathoned seasons 1-4. I don't like it. Gave this a try because I'm a huge Janeane Garofalo & Forest Whitaker fan.

unsub.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

Watched last night's episode and thought it was much better than the premiere. The case with the female killer who enjoyed watching the suspect die was pretty creepy. I liked the twist on who the killer actually was.

at Garcia. She had blonde hair on last night's Criminal Minds and red hair on Suspect Behavior afterwards.

The thing I don't like about this show is them trying to differentiate this BAU team as the "Red Cell" division reporting directly to the Director. To me that just seems really corny. Also, since this airs right after Criminal Minds, I can see this show getting really repetitive with similar storylines. At least the CSI's and NCIS, NCIS LA have different locations to help broaden the storytelling.
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Agreed that it was better than the first two.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

Originally Posted by NORML54601
Am I missing something, hasn't Garcia been traveling with the original team during this season? How can she be in two places at once?
No, that only happened for the first couple of episodes after AJ Cook left.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

Originally Posted by DJariya
I can think of one.

Tahmoh Penikett was a series regular on Dollhouse season 1 and Battlestar Galactica's final season in 2009 at the same time. And to top it off they both aired the same day. Granted he finished work on Battlestar months before he started Dollhouse.
Heather Locklear was on TJ Hooker and Dynasty at the sametime.
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Originally Posted by coladar
I was shocked to see Kirsten Vangness on the credits as a series regular. I wouldn't have been shocked to have seen what they did with Pauley Perrette on NCIS LA, appearing as a special guest star once in a while to get the show going... But seeing her in the title sequence as a regular? That was pretty surprising.

Anyway, it brought to mind a question when I watched it on my DVR a few hours ago, that I'm dying to have answered. Has an actor ever been a series regular on two shows at the same time? Not "This show was canceled, and we are burning off episodes filmed a year ago." while their new show premieres. I mean an actor being a series regular on two shows at the same time, when both shows were filming simultaneously? I'm sure it's happened at some point... But I have to imagine this is the first time an actor has been a series regular on two shows as the same character.

I definitely wouldn't mind being Vangness... Two series regular credits, and two paychecks as a series regular. For a character that films her scenes all on the same set, for both shows. The residuals she'll get, getting paid for 44 episodes a year... Unless she gets a massive slash in pay compared to the other actors since she isn't "out in the field", she must have been on cloud nine when told "Hey, we are adding you as a cast member to Suspect Behavior. And you'll still be a regular on the original."
DA Arthur Branch (Fred Thompson) crossed over a bunch of the L&O spin offs at the same time i.e. SVU, CI, Conviction. Trial by Jury.


I am not a big fan of this spin off. It seems like conclusions/leads were reached/arrive at with very little reason or believability. There were scenes I had to roll my eyes at. The original CM is much better executed.
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

The show is watchable, but I'm not a huge fan of this team. I have to laugh everytime Whitaker (Cooper) speaks softly to describe the Unsubs. It seems to be the show is really redundant after watching Criminal Minds at 9pm.

Wednesday's episode was okay. Justine Bateman looks like shit and I thought her motives for killing those people and the tying it in to the "See No Evil, Hear No Evil and Speak No Evil" was silly.

I don't remember seeing his name in the opening credits, but was the 1st victim Marc Singer?
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

Ugh...Tonight's ep (at least on CTV Canada) Devotion has turned me off to both CM shows for good I think.

They do gore once and awhile but only for a bit but a rotting corpse in mutiple scenes...this is fine to air on OTA but Janet Jackson's nip slip was a disaster?
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Re: Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior -- New Series -- Premieres 2/16/11 on CBS

Originally Posted by wz42
Ugh...Tonight's ep (at least on CTV Canada) Devotion has turned me off to both CM shows for good I think
at least the case was really different. It's can't be easy to come up with some sort of twist that people can't really see coming but is still foreshadowed well.

Forest Whitaker's character getting sort of worked up as he gets into the killers mindset or whatever is getting a little old already IMO.. I don't know, maybe it's that the team just doesn't seem to click that well together or something.

still, IMO the cases have been interesting so I'll keep tuning in for now..

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