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Old 05-02-10, 12:11 PM
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DVDTalk Draft Round 1 (KillerCannibal vs Bobby Shalom)

Hello voter! Please vote for the team of characters that you like better. It's all personal preference. If one character on the list ruins a team for you and you select the other team based on that alone, so be it (although it would be preferred that you look at the team as a whole )

We would love to hear feedback and why you chose one team over another. Feel free to comment, ask questions, criticize, etc.




KillerCannibal
1. R.J. MacReady (Kurt Russell, The Thing, 1982)
2. Godzilla (various actors, Godzilla franchise, 1954-1995, 1999-2004)
3. Harmonica (Charles Bronson, Once Upon a Time in the West, 1968)
4. Snake Plissken (Kurt Russell, Escape From N.Y./Escape From L.A., 1981-1996)
5. Frank Booth (Dennis Hopper, Blue Velvet, 1986)
6. Seth Brundle (Jeff Goldblum, The Fly, 1986)
7. Buddy Revell (Richard Tyson, Three O'Clock High, 1987)
8. Detective Jimmy "Popeye" Doyle (Gene Hackman, The French Connection I & II, 1971-1975)
9. Black Dynamite (Michael Jai White, Black Dynamite, 2009)
10. Don Logan (Ben Kingsley, Sexy Beast, 2000)



Bobby Shalom
1. Travis Bickle (Robert DeNiro, Taxi Driver, 1976)
2. Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford, Blade Runner, 1982)
3. Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis, There Will be Blood, 2007)
4. Phillip Marlowe (various actors, various films, 1944-present)
5. Harold Chasen (Bud Cort, Harold and Maude, 1971)
6. Tony Montana (Al Pacino, Scarface, 1983)
7. John "Bluto" Blutarsky (John Belushi, Animal House, 1978)
8. Walker (Lee Marvin, Point Blank, 1967)
9. Malcolm Tucker (Peter Capaldi, In the Loop, 2009)
10. Rocky Sullivan (James Cagney, Angels with Dirty Faces, 1938)
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Re: DVDTalk Draft Round 1 (KillerCannibal vs Bobby Shalom)

While I have no clue who Buddy Revell is, anyone who has Snake Plissken, Frank Booth, and Black Dynamite gets my vote.
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Re: DVDTalk Draft Round 1 (KillerCannibal vs Bobby Shalom)

KillerCannibal
1. R.J. MacReady - (not that interesting of a character to pick first round)
2. Godzilla - (King Kong is more interesting as a "character")
3. Harmonica - (poor man's "Man with No Name)
4. Snake Plissken + (ruined a bit by the sequel, but still great)
5. Frank Booth + (wonderfully creepy villain)
6. Seth Brundle - (I don't remember this as a great "character")
7. Buddy Revell - (I enjoyed this movie 20+ years ago, but this character is completely unmemorable to me)
8. Detective Jimmy "Popeye" Doyle + (awesome)
9. Black Dynamite + (not too soon)
10. Don Logan + (this character is great and should have gone much sooner!)

Total Pluses: 4

Bobby Shalom
1. Travis Bickle + (classic character, easy first round pick)
2. Rick Deckard - (I would have gone with the Rutger Hauer chararcter)
3. Daniel Plainview + (this character drinks my milkshake)
4. Phillip Marlowe + (mostly for Bogart's performance)
5. Harold Chasen - (Maude would have been the better pick)
6. Tony Montana + (that terrible accent makes the character even better)
7. John "Bluto" Blutarsky + (the ultimate Belushi role)
8. Walker + (Lee Marvin is great in ANYTHING)
9. Malcolm Tucker - (haven't seen)
10. Rocky Sullivan - (there are much better Cagney characters to choose from)

Total Pluses: 6

Winner: Bobby Shalom
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Re: DVDTalk Draft Round 1 (KillerCannibal vs Bobby Shalom)

I also would have gone with Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner ever Deckard.
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KillerCannibal
1. R.J. MacReady (Kurt Russell, The Thing, 1982) 9/10
2. Godzilla (various actors, Godzilla franchise, 1954-1995, 1999-2004) 8/10
3. Harmonica (Charles Bronson, Once Upon a Time in the West, 1968) 7.5/10
4. Snake Plissken (Kurt Russell, Escape From N.Y./Escape From L.A., 1981-1996) 10/10
5. Frank Booth (Dennis Hopper, Blue Velvet, 1986) 7.5/10
6. Seth Brundle (Jeff Goldblum, The Fly, 1986) 7.5/10
7. Buddy Revell (Richard Tyson, Three O'Clock High, 1987) 7/10
8. Detective Jimmy "Popeye" Doyle (Gene Hackman, The French Connection I & II, 1971-1975) 7.5/10
9. Black Dynamite (Michael Jai White, Black Dynamite, 2009) (N/A)
10. Don Logan (Ben Kingsley, Sexy Beast, 2000) (N/A)



Bobby Shalom
1. Travis Bickle (Robert DeNiro, Taxi Driver, 1976) 8/10
2. Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford, Blade Runner, 1982) 8.5/10
3. Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis, There Will be Blood, 2007) 6/10
4. Phillip Marlowe (various actors, various films, 1944-present) (N/A)
5. Harold Chasen (Bud Cort, Harold and Maude, 1971) (N/A)
6. Tony Montana (Al Pacino, Scarface, 1983) 9/10
7. John "Bluto" Blutarsky (John Belushi, Animal House, 1978) 8/10
8. Walker (Lee Marvin, Point Blank, 1967) 7.5/10
9. Malcolm Tucker (Peter Capaldi, In the Loop, 2009) (N/A)
10. Rocky Sullivan (James Cagney, Angels with Dirty Faces, 1938) (N/A)

Killer Cannibal - 8.0
Bobby Shalom - 7.8

2 excellent lists!
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Re: DVDTalk Draft Round 1 (KillerCannibal vs Bobby Shalom)

Both great lists but KillerCannibal gets the nod.
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Toughest of the Round 1 match-ups for me...but went with Bobby, since Killer couldn't decide which Kurt Russell character he wanted more and drafted both of them.
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It came down to a choice between Snake and Deckard for me. Snake ftw.
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Re: DVDTalk Draft Round 1 (KillerCannibal vs Bobby Shalom)

A couple ties, but KillerCannibal wins this one easily. Godzilla can't lose.

KillerCannibal

1. R.J. MacReady (Kurt Russell, The Thing, 1982)
2. Godzilla (various actors, Godzilla franchise, 1954-1995, 1999-2004)
3. Harmonica (Charles Bronson, Once Upon a Time in the West, 1968)
4. Snake Plissken (Kurt Russell, Escape From N.Y./Escape From L.A., 1981-1996)
5. Frank Booth (Dennis Hopper, Blue Velvet, 1986)
6. Seth Brundle (Jeff Goldblum, The Fly, 1986)

7. Buddy Revell (Richard Tyson, Three O'Clock High, 1987)
8. Detective Jimmy "Popeye" Doyle (Gene Hackman, The French Connection I & II, 1971-1975)
9. Black Dynamite (Michael Jai White, Black Dynamite, 2009)
10. Don Logan (Ben Kingsley, Sexy Beast, 2000)



Bobby Shalom

1. Travis Bickle (Robert DeNiro, Taxi Driver, 1976)
2. Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford, Blade Runner, 1982)
3. Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis, There Will be Blood, 2007)
4. Phillip Marlowe (various actors, various films, 1944-present)

5. Harold Chasen (Bud Cort, Harold and Maude, 1971)
6. Tony Montana (Al Pacino, Scarface, 1983)
7. John "Bluto" Blutarsky (John Belushi, Animal House, 1978)
8. Walker (Lee Marvin, Point Blank, 1967)
9. Malcolm Tucker (Peter Capaldi, In the Loop, 2009)
10. Rocky Sullivan (James Cagney, Angels with Dirty Faces, 1938)
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Re: DVDTalk Draft Round 1 (KillerCannibal vs Bobby Shalom)

KillerCannibal has HARMONICA that alone gets my vote also...damn good list there, son. Both of you.
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Re: DVDTalk Draft Round 1 (KillerCannibal vs Bobby Shalom)

KillerCannibal had Harmonica and Popeye Doyle, but Bobby S. had Travis Bickle, Philip Marlowe, Lee Marvin's Walker and...best of all...Rocky Sullivan! So that's what won me over.

(P.S. After looking over everybody else's lists on the other threads, I'd have to say Bobby S.'s list tops them all.)

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Me, naturally.
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Godzilla??? Brundle fly??? Nonsense. Shalom, hands down.
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Shalom, his characters made the movies while the majority of KillerC's, the movie made the character.
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Overall I like Killer Cannibal's selections.
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Originally Posted by davidlynchfan
Shalom, his characters made the movies while the majority of KillerC's, the movie made the character.
Wonderfully put.
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(P.S. After looking over everybody else's lists on the other threads, I'd have to say Bobby S.'s list tops them all.)
Agreed, it surpises me this round is so close.
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KillerCannibal's list really picks up steam in the 2nd half. I went with him.
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1. Travis Bickle (Robert DeNiro, Taxi Driver, 1976) - B
2. Phillip Marlowe (various actors, various films, 1944-present) - B
3. John "Bluto" Blutarsky (John Belushi, Animal House, 1978)- B
4. Detective Jimmy "Popeye" Doyle (Gene Hackman, The French Connection I & II, 1971-1975) - K
5. Frank Booth (Dennis Hopper, Blue Velvet, 1986) - K
6. Tony Montana (Al Pacino, Scarface, 1983) - B
7. Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis, There Will be Blood, 2007) - B
8. Snake Plissken (Kurt Russell, Escape From N.Y./Escape From L.A., 1981-1996) - K
9. Harold Chasen (Bud Cort, Harold and Maude, 1971) - B
10. Don Logan (Ben Kingsley, Sexy Beast, 2000) - K
11. Seth Brundle (Jeff Goldblum, The Fly, 1986) - K
12. Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford, Blade Runner, 1982) - B

Replace Godzilla with King Kong and maybe it's closer but Bobby Shalom convincingly for me.
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Had to vote for myself - Like Killer Cannibal's list a lot, as I am a huge Carpenter fan!
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1. R.J. MacReady (Kurt Russell, The Thing, 1982) Whatever.
2. Godzilla (various actors, Godzilla franchise, 1954-1995, 1999-2004) What are you smoking?
3. Harmonica (Charles Bronson, Once Upon a Time in the West, 1968) I don't know.
4. Snake Plissken (Kurt Russell, Escape From N.Y./Escape From L.A., 1981-1996) Really? Really?
5. Frank Booth (Dennis Hopper, Blue Velvet, 1986) I won't speak ill of the terminally ill, but wasn't he a wife-beater or something.
6. Seth Brundle (Jeff Goldblum, The Fly, 1986) Dude, really?
7. Buddy Revell (Richard Tyson, Three O'Clock High, 1987) What?
8. Detective Jimmy "Popeye" Doyle (Gene Hackman, The French Connection I & II, 1971-1975) I guess.
9. Black Dynamite (Michael Jai White, Black Dynamite, 2009) Oh my g- ok, whatever. Never heard of it.
10. Don Logan (Ben Kingsley, Sexy Beast, 2000) This might be a good pick, but I haven't seen it, so, you know, please stick to shit I know.



Bobby Shalom
1. Travis Bickle (Robert DeNiro, Taxi Driver, 1976) Yes, a great character.
2. Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford, Blade Runner, 1982) Very good.
3. Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis, There Will be Blood, 2007) Superb choice.
4. Phillip Marlowe (various actors, various films, 1944-present) Blah, boring.
5. Harold Chasen (Bud Cort, Harold and Maude, 1971) Will you people please pick characters from movies I've seen? I will see this by next year, ok?
6. Tony Montana (Al Pacino, Scarface, 1983) Yes, good, I guess, if rather simplistic and a bit insulting to Cuban entrepreneurs who are mostly not drug-dealers. Oliver Stone has always had a bug up his ass about people who fled Communism. Fuck him. Let him try life as a Cuban citizen if he likes Castro so much.
7. John "Bluto" Blutarsky (John Belushi, Animal House, 1978) I don't know.
8. Walker (Lee Marvin, Point Blank, 1967) Again. Never seen it.
9. Malcolm Tucker (Peter Capaldi, In the Loop, 2009) Ok, now you're just trying to pick shit I haven't seen.
10. Rocky Sullivan (James Cagney, Angels with Dirty Faces, 1938) I saw it, don't remember much of it. Good actor, but was this character really a standout?
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Re: DVDTalk Draft Round 1 (KillerCannibal vs Bobby Shalom)

Quick, while Bobby's in the lead...let's move on to Round 2!
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Buddy Revell is an inspired choice, but doesn't he get his ass handed to him at the end of that film? By his own brass knuckles?

Aside from that, I voted KC. (Godzilla!!!!!!!!1!111!)
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I've only actually seen one movie featuring a character from either list. (Yes, I know...they're in my Netflix queue. I'll get to 'em.) I'll take Snake Plissken over John Plutarsky any day of the week. KillerCannibal gets my vote on this flimsy premise.
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Originally Posted by MinLShaw
I've only actually seen one movie featuring a character from either list. (Yes, I know...they're in my Netflix queue. I'll get to 'em.) I'll take Snake Plissken over John Plutarsky any day of the week. KillerCannibal gets my vote on this flimsy premise.
Dude, only one film from each of those lists? Where have you been all your moviegoing life? I'm assuming that the one movie from the first list is one of the ESCAPE films and the only one from the second is ANIMAL HOUSE.

Those are some serious gaps. Allow me to recommend what I consider the priorities, taken from both lists, in this viewing order:


ANGELS WITH DIRTY FACES (1938)
ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST (1969)
THE FRENCH CONNECTION (1971) (you can skip the sequel)
TAXI DRIVER (1976)
POINT BLANK (1967)
SCARFACE (1983) (you should see the 1932 original first)
THE THING (1982) (you should see the 1951 original first)
BLADE RUNNER (1982)
BLUE VELVET (1986)
THE FLY (1986) (you should see the 1958 original at some point, but not necessarily first)
Every GODZILLA movie, 1954-2005 (at least 23 movies)





KillerCannibal
1. R.J. MacReady (Kurt Russell, The Thing, 1982)
2. Godzilla (various actors, Godzilla franchise, 1954-1995, 1999-2004)
3. Harmonica (Charles Bronson, Once Upon a Time in the West, 1968)
4. Snake Plissken (Kurt Russell, Escape From N.Y./Escape From L.A., 1981-1996)
5. Frank Booth (Dennis Hopper, Blue Velvet, 1986)
6. Seth Brundle (Jeff Goldblum, The Fly, 1986)
7. Buddy Revell (Richard Tyson, Three O'Clock High, 1987)
8. Detective Jimmy "Popeye" Doyle (Gene Hackman, The French Connection I & II, 1971-1975)
9. Black Dynamite (Michael Jai White, Black Dynamite, 2009)
10. Don Logan (Ben Kingsley, Sexy Beast, 2000)



Bobby Shalom
1. Travis Bickle (Robert DeNiro, Taxi Driver, 1976)
2. Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford, Blade Runner, 1982)
3. Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis, There Will be Blood, 2007)
4. Phillip Marlowe (various actors, various films, 1944-present)
5. Harold Chasen (Bud Cort, Harold and Maude, 1971)
6. Tony Montana (Al Pacino, Scarface, 1983)
7. John "Bluto" Blutarsky (John Belushi, Animal House, 1978)
8. Walker (Lee Marvin, Point Blank, 1967)
9. Malcolm Tucker (Peter Capaldi, In the Loop, 2009)
10. Rocky Sullivan (James Cagney, Angels with Dirty Faces, 1938)
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