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Old 04-19-10, 08:30 AM
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twists that damage the movie

It doesn't have to be twists that completely ruin the movie, but also just damages it. Two that come to mind for me are The Game and Identity. They damaged the movie, but didn't quite ruin them for me.

What about everyone else?
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Totally agree with Identity. Once it was revealed, I no longer cared for the characters that were left.
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imo, the twist in Identity made it a great movie, though I know many disagree, love that movie. The Game's final twist was eye rolling more due to how it played out than the fact it was a twist.

Haute Tension is the first one that comes to mind for me.
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Re: twists that damage the movie

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Haute Tension is the first one that comes to mind for me.
Fits the criteria perfectly. Definitely a case of "a twist just to have a twist".
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Definitely a case of "a twist just to have a twist".
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SHUTTER ISLAND. I liked where the movie was going before the twist. The twist completely ruined the movie for me.

Also, the 2004 remake of THE BIG BOUNCE introduces a "clever" twist that's not in the Elmore Leonard novel or the 1969 film. It's so "clever" it hammered the nails into the coffin of what was already a mediocre film.

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SHUTTER ISLAND. I liked where the movie was going before the twist. The twist completely ruined the movie for me.
I agree with that. It raised too many questions.
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For me its The Life of David Gale. The movie takes a stance about something and then when all is revealed it turns to the other side of the argument. I thought the movie was ok before that, but hated it afterwards.
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Re: twists that damage the movie

Hancock - It took a movie that actually looked like it was headed someplace original and brought it to a complete stop.

I'll agree with Haute Tension. I loved the movie up to that point and haven't been able to let myself revisit it again cause I hated the twist so much.
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I'll agree with Haute Tension. I loved the movie up to that point and haven't been able to let myself revisit it again cause I hated the twist so much.
I decided to give it a second chance and hated it even more. When you backtrack to everything happened before the twist it just does not make sense.
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Re: twists that damage the movie

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Hancock - It took a movie that actually looked like it was headed someplace original and brought it to a complete stop.
I don't know about that - I thought Hancock was simply OK...but I must admit that the "twist" was something I never thought I'd see in a major studio picture.

Spoiler:
The idea that they are "angels" was really interesting to me


I think the movie would have come across as even more generic without that.
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There's about a million major studio movies on that subject matter, not sure why it would be surprising.
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the Shutter Island twist didn't harm the story for me but they just took way too much time explaining it and repeating it over and over again that it hurt the impact it should have had.
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Re: twists that damage the movie

Originally Posted by RichC2
Haute Tension is the first one that comes to mind for me.
Ditto. Never should have happened.
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Re: twists that damage the movie

I know this film has a lot of fans, but the twist in Frailty (2002) completely ruined the movie for me. It threw out a great beginning for a dumb twist, IMO.

Another is the original Saw (2004), which had the most ridiculous twist of any movie I've ever seen.

Specifically...
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...that the real killer would lie motionless on the floor for the entire length of the movie. And he did this for no real reason aside from setting up a twist. Yeah, this twist was an unexpected surprise, but only because I didn't think anyone would put such a ridiculously absurd twist in a movie.
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Re: twists that damage the movie

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Another is the original Saw (2004), which had the most ridiculous twist of any movie I've ever seen.

Specifically...
Spoiler:

...that the real killer would lie motionless on the floor for the entire length of the movie. And he did this for no real reason aside from setting up a twist. Yeah, this twist was an unexpected surprise, but only because I didn't think anyone would put such a ridiculously absurd twist in a movie.
Spoiler:
He likes to observe. Also, he has control of one of those zapper things that electrifies the chains that are holding Leigh Whannell and Cary Elwes in place, so if either of them break the rules, he'll zap them. So there's a little more reason for him to lie there than it appears.
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How about Fallen? It's not the twist itself, per se, but the fact that the filmmakers use a huge cheat to cover it up.
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Re: twists that damage the movie

Originally Posted by Groucho
Fits the criteria perfectly. Definitely a case of "a twist just to have a twist".
But haute tension was still a bad movie to begin with.
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Re: twists that damage the movie

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How about Fallen? It's not the twist itself, per se, but the fact that the filmmakers use a huge cheat to cover it up.
What's the cheat? I really like that flick and have never thought of the twist as a negative.

I'll add Deathtrap to the list as the end twist is one too much.
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Originally Posted by dhmac
I know this film has a lot of fans, but the twist in Frailty (2002) completely ruined the movie for me. It threw out a great beginning for a dumb twist, IMO.
agreed
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the Shutter Island twist didn't harm the story for me but they just took way too much time explaining it and repeating it over and over again that it hurt the impact it should have had.
I enjoyed Shutter Island, but the trailer pretty much gave away the "twist".
Please no more of the main character dreaming, being dead or insane. Those twists are so predictable because they have been done well a few times and done horribly hundreds of other times.
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What's the cheat?
Spoiler for Fallen:
Spoiler:
The film is narrated by Denzel Washington, but Azazel is no longer in the body of Washington at the end of the movie. Technically, the narration should be a series of purrs and meows.
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Re: twists that damage the movie

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There's about a million major studio movies on that subject matter, not sure why it would be surprising.
Because it's a superhero movie, and the superhero is not an alien or someone who mutated or suffered some accident. I was not expecting the movie to go in that way.
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Originally Posted by inri222
I decided to give it a second chance and hated it even more. When you backtrack to everything happened before the twist it just does not make sense.
Actually
Spoiler:
it's all in Marie's head so nothing has to make sense. Yes it's a cop out but that's the way it is


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