1.78:1 cropped from 2.35:1
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Is there a list of studio release movies that have been altered from their OAR of 2.35:1 and put on DVD for the purpose of viewing on a 16X9 TV? Thanks much....no opinions please, just facts.
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I know that they opened up (not cropped) "Traitor" to 1.78 from 2.35/2.40 (not sure which) for the DVD release, but kept the OAR for the Blu-ray. It was not a mistake however, but a conscious decision.
Was "Lord of War" cropped on the sides or opened up?
Was "Lord of War" cropped on the sides or opened up?
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So, movie companies ...aside from these instances, have never created altered versions of 2.35:1 and wider movies to accomodate the modern day fullscreen equivalent >> 16X9 TV's ?? To be more specific, I clipped a segment from a post elswhere that pretty much says it. >>> Below>>
When they "crop" the film to 1.78:1 (16:9) the entire image fills the screen at the proper high resolution (ie. no loss in quality unlike when one tries to zoom in on a 2.35:1 scope film in order to fill their screen).
This is it exactly. Thanks
When they "crop" the film to 1.78:1 (16:9) the entire image fills the screen at the proper high resolution (ie. no loss in quality unlike when one tries to zoom in on a 2.35:1 scope film in order to fill their screen).
This is it exactly. Thanks
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So, movie companies ...aside from these instances, have never created altered versions of 2.35:1 and wider movies to accomodate the modern day fullscreen equivalent >> 16X9 TV's ?? To be more specific, I clipped a segment from a post elswhere that pretty much says it. >>> Below>>
When they "crop" the film to 1.78:1 (16:9) the entire image fills the screen at the proper high resolution (ie. no loss in quality unlike when one tries to zoom in on a 2.35:1 scope film in order to fill their screen).
This is it exactly. Thanks
When they "crop" the film to 1.78:1 (16:9) the entire image fills the screen at the proper high resolution (ie. no loss in quality unlike when one tries to zoom in on a 2.35:1 scope film in order to fill their screen).
This is it exactly. Thanks
I know Traitor was altered, although I don't know if it was from 2.35:1. I also know there was a big fuss over Tideland's AR being modified in this way, and Gilliam was angry. I could have sworn ThinkFilm was meant to fix it, but who knows if they ever did.
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Some of Robert Rodriguez recent movies are guilty of this.
Once upon a time in Mexico
Planet Terror
Once upon a time in Mexico
Planet Terror
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Technically, you're watching the equivalent of the "full-screen" version when you watch the 1.78:1 version of Cloudy. The original 2.40:1 version should also be on the disc.
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That's probably the case. My wife rented it for my daughter and I noticed that it switched AR for the end credits. Good for Sony for also including the OAR.
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On Cloudy's back cover (on both editions of the DVD/only edition of the Blu-Ray) it says "16x9 Full Screen Version" under the 1.78:1 ratio symbol and "Anamorphic Widescreen" under the 2.35:1 ratio symbol.
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Conscious decisions can also be mistakes. See below.
It was 2.35:1, but all of the DVD releases have been 2.00:1, not 1.78:1. The cinematographer, Vittorio Storaro, is a proponent of something he calls Univisium. Unfortunately, Storaro favors cropping movies he's already made to the 2.00:1 aspect ratio.
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And Once Upon a Time in Mexico was shot 1.78:1 with HD cameras. Rodriguez matted it to 2.40:1 for theaters but decided to present it open-matte 1.78:1 for the home video.
And Once Upon a Time in Mexico was shot 1.78:1 with HD cameras. Rodriguez matted it to 2.40:1 for theaters but decided to present it open-matte 1.78:1 for the home video.
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Lions Gate released the movie Creep on DVD modified to 16:9:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/45...ullscreen.html
Lions Gate also released the movie The Snow Walker as 16:9.
The original R-rated cut of 40-Year-Old Virgin was originally available only in 16:9, until Universal relented and released an OAR version.
Some additional informative threads:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/44...io-merged.html
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/45...-16-x-9-a.html
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/45...ullscreen.html
Lions Gate also released the movie The Snow Walker as 16:9.
The original R-rated cut of 40-Year-Old Virgin was originally available only in 16:9, until Universal relented and released an OAR version.
Some additional informative threads:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/44...io-merged.html
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/45...-16-x-9-a.html
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Damn, you're right. I saw references to it while re-reading the original Lord of War thread, so I got mixed up.
Do companies still bother with 4:3 releases on DVD? It seems like the default is now WS, even if it's possibly an altered WS.
Do companies still bother with 4:3 releases on DVD? It seems like the default is now WS, even if it's possibly an altered WS.
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Re: 1.78:1 cropped from 2.35:1
Occasionally, although most DVDs are released in some sort of widescreen AR.
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Re: 1.78:1 cropped from 2.35:1
Aspect ratio
1.85 : 1 (DVD version)
2.35 : 1 (Grindhouse double feature)
http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/gr...n-p-13665.html (info here)
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