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Old 12-03-09, 02:54 AM
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Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Flash Forward

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Mark and Demetri travel to Hong Kong in an effort to find the woman who may know details of Demetri's fate; Lloyd attempts to come clean about his and Simon's involvement in the blackout; Zoey learns the meaning of her flash-forward.


Last episode of 2009. Now slated to return in March 2010. Was originally supposed to return in January...Damn You ABC!!

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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Not any more. Won't return until March. WTH? This doesn't look good for the show. This big break combined with lower ratings.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Hasn't aired on the West Coast yet, but March?? That doesn't make any sense considering this is only episode 10. There is still 15 more episodes left. That would make the season finish in June.

I guess the Producers of this show and ABC's scheduling dept didn't learn any lessons from the Jericho debacle from 3 years ago when the ratings crashed after a 3 month hiatus. I understand why V has to do it, but this show has been in production since Summer.

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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Some of this connect the dots writing is really terrible. What exactly is endearing about 20 million deaths to the doctor lady that NOW she feels a connection to the British dude?
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

I liked this episode. Got the plot moving along with some interesting twists. And the previews look good, too.

Originally Posted by chuckd21
Some of this connect the dots writing is really terrible. What exactly is endearing about 20 million deaths to the doctor lady that NOW she feels a connection to the British dude?
Yeah, this was stupid and out of character IMO. She was trying to get rid of him before but now that he's admitted to the blackouts she likes him? And did we see her reaction to the news? I dont remember but you would think they would have made a point to emphasize this. The guy you've known for months and was in your flashforward announces he caused the blackouts and its just "ho hum." If I was the doctor I would be freaking out.
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Originally Posted by chrisih8u
I liked this episode. Got the plot moving along with some interesting twists. And the previews look good, too.



Yeah, this was stupid and out of character IMO. She was trying to get rid of him before but now that he's admitted to the blackouts she likes him? And did we see her reaction to the news? I dont remember but you would think they would have made a point to emphasize this. The guy you've known for months and was in your flashforward announces he caused the blackouts and its just "ho hum." If I was the doctor I would be freaking out.
Yeah, for someone who's supposed to break up her marriage, she hasn't done much to prevent contact with him besides trying to get his son moved and barely talking to him the first 2-3 times she saw him. I also thought it was stupid of Mark to try to take a woman with bodyguards hostage in another country with no backup.

The previews looked good which sucks since it won't be back til March. I was wondering if anything would happen between Bryce and Nicole. He should go for her. She's hotter, closer, and speaks english.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

I think the reason why Agent Benford will shoot Agent Noh is because...

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he finds out Noh sent the text message.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

I also liked this episode; very glad that Monaghan did not develop to be the bad guy because that would have been pretty dumb. Still interested in it, but how did the Persian lady and Billy Drago get the same info that Benford had in his flash-forward?
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

I think the reason why Agent Benford will shoot Agent Noh is because...


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Why would he kill him over that?
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Originally Posted by firteen88
Why would he kill him over that?
Because he was Loaded, Okay?!

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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091204/...s_flashforward

ABC pushes back "FlashForward" return
By James Hibberd James Hibberd
Fri Dec 4, 1:32 am ET


LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – Some ABC viewers just had a flashback.

The network ran a promo at the end of Thursday's episode of "FlashForward" letting viewers know the show would return in March -- March 4, to be exact.

The spot was similar to the announcement made at the end of "V" saying the show would return that same month. But while the "V" message met with relief (it's coming back!), the "FlashForward" push is being met with dismay (that long?), especially since fans expected the sci-fi drama to continue in January.

ABC wants to get the show out of the way of the Winter Olympics (February 12-28) and air it straight through without repeats.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

So are all the networks just throwing up color bars against the almighty Olympic Games?
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Originally Posted by chuckd21
So are all the networks just throwing up color bars against the almighty Olympic Games?
At least ABC is. I haven't heard about the other networks.

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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

yeah, that whole March 2010 return was unexpected. oh well. i liked the episode but you do really have to suspend disbelief for this. such as, i don't believe even if they were federal agents that they could be carrying their duty weapon (or any weapon for that matter) to China.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Originally Posted by Deftones
yeah, that whole March 2010 return was unexpected. oh well. i liked the episode but you do really have to suspend disbelief for this. such as, i don't believe even if they were federal agents that they could be carrying their duty weapon (or any weapon for that matter) to China.
Hong Kong isn't China!

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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Originally Posted by mrpayroll
Hong Kong isn't China!

Chris
Actually, Hong Kong is "special China." The Brits gave it back to China, but China agrreed to some special rules and a degree of autonomy for a number of years. But I would think China still controls Customs & Immigration.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

I think another reason the show is getting an extended break is that they probably want to get the show going in a different direction, in that the time the show comes back relative to the date of the actual blackout will allow for a tighter storyline.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Good interview with David S. Goyer on EW.com and he explains the logic of the 3 month hiatus. It actually makes sense considering how awful the scheduling would have been.


Goyer:

We originally planned to come back in January, but about three weeks ago we sat down with ABC scheduling and looked at what our programming schedule would be like. And I think on serialized show like 24, Lost, and Prison Break the most important thing is to air consecutive episodes without repeats or preemptions. To be brutally honest, our programming schedule in January was going to be awful. We were going to be off for four or five weeks [through December and into January], then back on for two weeks, then off for two weeks because of the Olympics, then back on four weeks, off for two weeks again, back on three, off for two again… Our first 10 episodes had one preemption; our last 13-episode arc was going to have four. I just think when we saw that, the studio and the network and all the producers looked at each other and said, “This is crazy.” We’d rather bite the bullet, come back in March, and air all 13 episodes consecutively without preemptions.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Eh. I'd rather they start in Jan. I can take a couple of weeks between episodes once in a while.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Alot of TV viewers who actually devote the time to watching serialized shows would rather see them air consecutively without breaks. 24 did it in season 4 and Lost also did it in season 4.

The split season indeed sucks, but I think airing 13 episodes in a row of FF in March rather than 1 here, 2 there, and 1 there is much better and will help the flow of the show better.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Keep in mind that while Simcoe believes the experiment caused the blackouts, Simon is right: there's no proof of that. Assuming Simon wasn't lying to the FBI, the revelations regarding the devices in Somalia casts serious doubt on Simcoe's belief.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Originally Posted by mrpayroll
Hong Kong isn't China!
This will come as quite a shock to the Chinese.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Originally Posted by aynrandgirl
Keep in mind that while Simcoe believes the experiment caused the blackouts, Simon is right: there's no proof of that. Assuming Simon wasn't lying to the FBI, the revelations regarding the devices in Somalia casts serious doubt on Simcoe's belief.
+1

But given last night's episode, I fear that we're treading into dangerous time-travel territory. "Dangerous" because almost every other show I've seen that's delved into these waters (Heroes, Lost, etc.) have completely screwed up the storyline.

Out of curiosity, are you still an Ayn Rand girl given the fact that there's a strong case to be made that card-carrying Rand acolyte Alan Greenspan and his Randian policies contributed mightily to the financial meltdown?
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

Originally Posted by Melencio
I think the reason why Agent Benford will shoot Agent Noh is because...

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he finds out Noh sent the text message.
I think Demetri is a traitor and the "mole" in the group. Mark finds out and shoots him.
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Re: Flash Forward -- "A561984" -- 12/03/09

I think they fake his murder


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