DJariya

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Friday night wouldn't be complete without some Dollhouse. Too bad probably 90% of this country that watches this show is probably Tivo/DVR'ing it than watching it live.

TGM

so, Echo glitches YET again. sigh.

ChrisHicks

Has anyone seen this yet:

http://www.fox.com/dollhouse/virtualecho/

mhg83

Downloading it as we speak!

Timber

Meh, nothing to really even comment on.

Oh yeah we got to see Millie so that was a plus. Other then that I got nothing.

mhg83

No Whisky

Mok

Bitch blew a bullet hole through my screen.

ChrisHicks

I was just watching the show via Tivo and right when the commercial hit for the app I heard a shot and glass break and had a quick "WTH" moment. I looked over at my laptop and saw it and had to laugh.

I still need to print out the card to try out the new outfits.

Nth Power

I thought the episode was watchable, but on the boring side. Eliza's acting was surprisingly good in this one though - too bad it was on ho-hum filler.

wmansir

Yep, boring ep.

I have to give myself half credit for guessing the physical change Topher was alluding to in the opening. I got the area right, but I was thinking form instead of function.

UngersPride

Yes, have to agree with many here - boring episode.

After 30 minutes I turned the channel to another show. What is up with all the whining from Topher?

I am amazed that the show is this dull just two eps in.... considering it was on slow drip last season.

Whedon should have come out this season with a one-two punch to grab viewers. Instead, it is just ho-hum. There is no compelling reason for me to tune in next week to see what happens....

What I would like to have seen happen:

1) There should be a BIG BAD and an international organization that is using the Dollhouse as a front to breed "Supermen" alluded to with last season's Alpha episodes. These Supermen (and women) could be bred to help infiltrate the world's governments and organizations to bring about a war between the USA and Russia/China.

2) Maybe Eliza could have been the one who is investigating the Dollhouse instead of Paul. This would provide her with a consistent character, and a sympathetic character for whom we could cheer (similar to the Buffy character). She in turn, could also be tackling some of these "Supermen".

3) Episodes should be serialized, with a cliff-hanger ending. This would make us want to tune in each week to see what happens....

Anyway just a few ideas.

At the rate this show is going I will soon be tuning out, and I foresee this season as being the last one.... if it isn't yanked off the air....

Seantn

Well, the Season 2 premiere was the lowest the ratings have ever been, but yesterday's episode dropped ANOTHER 20% in the ratings, nearly going below 2 million viewers. If it keeps dropping at this rate, I think Fox will pull it off the air before it even finishes filming its season (which it's only a month or two away from doing, I believe)

phantom_azazel

my local fox didnt even show it last night, had high school football instead

they are burning it off right now

mikehunt

why'd he have to change her brain to get lactation
I'm pretty sure hormone treatments can do that and would have been an easier option

RocShemp

You're right. He didn't need to do it. It just worked out that way. The way I understood it was that the imprint he created was so realistic, it caused a chemical and physical reaction in Echo. In essence, her brain believed the lie so much that it encouraged her body to change as would the body of a nursing mother.

Although the rest was boring filler (albeit well acted), that bit about the imprint and how deeply it affected Echo is another part of what we saw in Epitath One. With Topher's comment about possibly making the brain cure cancer, he have the early signs of a God complex which will surely follow with his eventual mental breakdown as to how his discovery is used is used by the company. Also, the potential of making the body change and even attain perfection plays into what Mr. Ambrose explained to Adelle when he was inside Victor's body. Actives would be the ideal commody of the super wealthy. And Echo's breakdown could be an early form of the identity crisis and full on mental breakdown we saw in the future.

Dr. DVD

I agree that this was mediocre ep. It seemed like one of those attempts for Eliza Dushku to show off her acting ability but instead had the opposite effect. Topher was funny, and Millie is always easy on the eyes (I wish Whedon would write something for here to do with Christina Hendricks, so we could finally see something with normal/real looking women with curves.). The only real positive thing



Next week looks interesting, though preposterous on plot levels:

RocShemp

Although I like all the business with forshadowing the events of Epitath One they need to have Echo's glitches occur less publicly. It's cool for her to glitch in front of Ballard and non-clients/non-staff but no more glitches that the Dollhouse is aware of. Even if Adelle continues to turn a blind eye to it, long ago someone higher up than her would know of this and would have sent Echo to the Attic already. Unless they plan to do exactly that and that total wipe has no effect on Echo whatsoever. Now that' I'd like to see. Because this constant glitching without consequences has got to stop.

+1

But I also want Whiskey back.

Dr. DVD

You would love a show about three female roommates that had Amy Acker playing straight girl while Christina and Miracle played a lesbian couple wouldn't you?


I agree about the glitches, they are getting too common. In all honesty, the Dollhouse will be lucky if that dad doesn't sue the pants off of them for the trouble they caused. I have no idea what kind of waivers you have to sign when you pay them, but still...

Tracer Bullet

Ugh this show makes me miss Firefly.

DeadLamb

yeah I don't really think one really sues a place that is some powerful shadow like organization that just happens to have a public front.. Much like people don't sue drug dealers or try to file chapter 11 when they owe a street gambling debt.

as for the ep... errr it was ok I guess. I agree with others who have said that the whole "glitch" thing is getting to be some sort of story line crutch. Same way Smallville has the random concussion (or four or five+) every ep and Star Trek shows seems to use Tachyon beams/rays/fields to wrap up an ep..

I like the cast on the show a lot but they need to do some sort of action based eps or something to get the ratings back up to just "bad".

RocShemp

Not really. I was never into lesbians. The end result of that is just myself alone doing a little fireman time. And Christina's my favorite of the bunch so it'd hurt that I'd never get her (even in a fantasy cos I'd have chosen the lesbian scenario). And believe me, I speak from personal experience. Well, not with Christina Hendricks but I have fallen in love with a lesbian and that's never fun.

Dr. DVD

Were you Chasing Amy?

RocShemp

No. Funny enough, I was never a fan of that particular Kevin Smith movie. I felt it went downhill after the fantastic Return of the Jedi rant.

But it really sucks when you ask a girl out and she agrees only to at the last minute invite some our mutual friends over. Then you find out she's a lesbian a day later. But, to add further insult to injury, one of said friends is then bragging to me one morning (about a week or so later) about how she and the girl I fell for just fucked before they went to work that day. I've never wanted to punch a woman more in my life.

Happily, they had a huge falling out and broke up. So there is that. I wouldn't call it a victory but it is a small measure of happiness nonetheless.

Dr. DVD

I had a similar situation occur once. I was dating an older woman (only about five years though), and after a few months she started to get distant, then one evening I just wanted to go for a walk with her in a park so we could talk and then she could do her routine jogging. About an hour or so before we were to meet she invited some friends that I did not know. She proceeded to leave them to walk with me while she went off jogging. Granted, they were both cute girls, but I was interested in her, not them. A few weeks later we began to grow more and more apart until it just fizzled out and we got silent. The last time I saw her in the flesh was when I took her to see The Prestige one night, and she loved it....where were we again?


BTW, to the thread starter: what is wrong with preferring to DVR/TiVo a show as opposed to watch it live? If it weren't for that option I wouldn't watch any TV at all. Also, that promo photo makes it look like Echo got dropped into Pee Wee's Playhouse.

RocShemp

Your story sounds better than mine. The last time I saw her, we were supposed to go see G.I. Joe (she's a big kid and she loved the heck outta The Dark Knight on our "date") but at the last minute she cancelled. She claimed classes were taking up her time (she's in law school) and then she went silent. Since she wasn't answering my calls I just stopped trying to keep in touch altogether. Recently I dropped her a line in FaceBook and she did reply.

At this point, I'm just looking to be friends because I know anything else would be a long wait for a train that wont come. Of course it sucks royally cos I really like her.

The problem is that you can skip commercials on DVR/TiVo so the people who buy ad space (the only reason shows are on the air) aren't getting their money's worth. So if less people watch a show live, less companies are willing to buy ad space. And then the show gets cancelled.

Well it fits the name of the show. And it's a much better picture than the quasi-Matrix promo shot that's now used to promote "virtual Echo".