Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
"My name is Peggy Olson and I want to smoke some marijuana." is one of the funniest lines I've heard on Mad Men yet.
Seeing Roger in blackface threw me for a loop, but it makes sense since he's of the older generation who grew up watching movies where white actors were in blackface and he doesn't think anything is wrong with it. Interesting how Don reacts negatively to it, which is expected of him since he's of a lower class, and Pete does too, which I didn't expect since he's a blue blood too like Roger.
Chelcie Ross played Connie, the bartender in the bar scene, which gave me a The Shining vibe.
I don't know if it's the actor or the character, but the guy that plays Joan's fiance drives me nuts since he always looks like he has a pinch of snuff in between his lips and mouth and is trying to keep from swallowing it or spitting it out.
Seeing Roger in blackface threw me for a loop, but it makes sense since he's of the older generation who grew up watching movies where white actors were in blackface and he doesn't think anything is wrong with it. Interesting how Don reacts negatively to it, which is expected of him since he's of a lower class, and Pete does too, which I didn't expect since he's a blue blood too like Roger.
Chelcie Ross played Connie, the bartender in the bar scene, which gave me a The Shining vibe.
I don't know if it's the actor or the character, but the guy that plays Joan's fiance drives me nuts since he always looks like he has a pinch of snuff in between his lips and mouth and is trying to keep from swallowing it or spitting it out.
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
Chelcie Ross played Connie, the bartender in the bar scene, which gave me a The Shining vibe.
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
My mistake. Connie wasn't a bartender in that scene, rather another party guest who's also trying to find alcohol. Connie is Conrad Hilton, founder of the Hilton Hotel chain and unfortunately, more famous today as the grandfather of you know who.
I wonder how long Vincent and Alison had to practice the Charleston? They were really good.
I wonder how long Vincent and Alison had to practice the Charleston? They were really good.
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
It's another tribute to MM's depiction of the era. I remember listening to minstrel show records in music class and seeing minstrel show performances by cub scouts (complete with blackened cork faces and white gloves). This would be back in 1962 when I was in the 7th grade. And this was in Massachusetts. Back then, it was considered part of American culture.
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
This season is confirming my belief that Peggy is the best character on this show. The little speech she gave to her secretary was brilliantly done. Contrasting the two generations of women in 30 seconds and without it seeming overdone.
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
I really liked how each of the story arcs had a song performed with a unique feel: from the grotesque (Roger) to the silly (Kinsey) to the sad (Joan seemed really alone performing for her party like that).
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
What was the deal with her husband
They are saying that he's a shit surgeon, never going to make chief resident, and therefore never going to be able to have her stop working and popping babies out of those 15 baby capacity hips?
LOL at the VERY subtle dig at today's healthcare issues. You mean Doctors werent always ridiculously overpaid greedy dicks?
They are saying that he's a shit surgeon, never going to make chief resident, and therefore never going to be able to have her stop working and popping babies out of those 15 baby capacity hips?
LOL at the VERY subtle dig at today's healthcare issues. You mean Doctors werent always ridiculously overpaid greedy dicks?
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
TS Eliot "The Hollow Men"
We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar
Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;
Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us -- if at all -- not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.
II
Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
In death's dream kingdom
These do not appear:
There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.
Let me be no nearer
In death's dream kingdom
Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves
No nearer --
Not that final meeting
In the twilight kingdom
III
This is the dead land
This is cactus land
Here the stone images
Are raised, here they receive
The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star.
Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.
IV
The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms
In this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid river
Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.
V
Here we go round the prickly pear
Prickly pear prickly pear
Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning.
Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom
Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow
Life is very long
Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom
For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar
Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;
Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us -- if at all -- not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.
II
Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
In death's dream kingdom
These do not appear:
There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.
Let me be no nearer
In death's dream kingdom
Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves
No nearer --
Not that final meeting
In the twilight kingdom
III
This is the dead land
This is cactus land
Here the stone images
Are raised, here they receive
The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star.
Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.
IV
The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms
In this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid river
Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.
V
Here we go round the prickly pear
Prickly pear prickly pear
Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning.
Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom
Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow
Life is very long
Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom
For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
My mistake. Connie wasn't a bartender in that scene, rather another party guest who's also trying to find alcohol. Connie is Conrad Hilton, founder of the Hilton Hotel chain and unfortunately, more famous today as the grandfather of you know who.
I wonder how long Vincent and Alison had to practice the Charleston? They were really good.
I wonder how long Vincent and Alison had to practice the Charleston? They were really good.
I totally missed that. And yes, that was some Charleston.
Roger in blackface was an OMG scene. It certainly makes sense but that doesn't make it any easier to watch.
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
AMC will now pull the plug. Thanks, Roger, you dolt!
I was happy to see that both Pete and Don were taken aback by Roger's behavior.
I was happy to see that both Pete and Don were taken aback by Roger's behavior.
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
Yeah, that was one of the most uncomfortable scenes in a TV show... My wife and I just looked at each other and nervously laughed. Thats what makes the show so great, well that and Peggy's awkwardish "You can go home, Im in a good place".
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
If you thought that the "drug pusher" in this episode looked a bit like Tom Cruise, that's because the role was played by Miles Fisher, who parodied Tom Cruise in Superhero Movie.
He also does a decent Christian Bale in this music video "homage" to American Psycho (NSFW):
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cPuaqGZGro
He also does a decent Christian Bale in this music video "homage" to American Psycho (NSFW):
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cPuaqGZGro
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
My mom thought he looked like Peter Lawford. In fact, she insisted I look at the credits to see if he was a Lawford.
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
First thing that popped into my head was this.
Rick Vaughn: [Seeing Harris take off his shirt, revealing white suff on his chest] What's that shit on your chest?
Eddie Harris: [Looking at his chest] Crisco.
Eddie Harris: [wiping it across his head]
Eddie Harris: Bardol.
Eddie Harris: [wiping it along his waist line]
Eddie Harris: Vagisil. Any one of them will give you another two to three inches drop on your curve ball. Of course if the umps are watching me real close I'll rub a little jalapeo up my nose, get it runnin', and if I need to load the ball up I just...
Eddie Harris: [wipes his nose]
Eddie Harris: ...wipe my nose.
Rick Vaughn: You put snot on the ball?
Eddie Harris: I haven't got an arm like you, kid. I have to put anything on it I can find. Someday you will too.
But I did get a Shining Vibe as well.
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
Seeing Roger in blackface threw me for a loop, but it makes sense since he's of the older generation who grew up watching movies where white actors were in blackface and he doesn't think anything is wrong with it. Interesting how Don reacts negatively to it, which is expected of him since he's of a lower class, and Pete does too, which I didn't expect since he's a blue blood too like Roger.
When they pan the audience during Roger's song, everyone is laughing and smiling --except Pete and Don. Don clearly has a look of disgust on his face, and he walks away.
Pete has a look of confusion.
I think that Pete is so self-aware about his image and how he presents himself that he is taken aback not by the blackface, but by the public spectacle that Roger is making.
Roger is performing, singing, displaying affection for his wife. Roger is opening himself up to look foolish (which is exactly what Don says he is).
Pete can't believe that Roger would risk looking foolish like that, and I think it inspires him to throw caution to the wind and dance the Charleston --and take the risk of becoming the center of attention.
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
I think Don was disgusted by Roger not LIMITING HIS EXPOSURE
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Re: Mad Men -- "My Old Kentucky Home" -- 8/30/09
Yeah, I can't see Pete getting too upset by blackface, but maybe that's just because his character is so odious.