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Decker
02-01-09, 12:31 PM
Synopsis : Rated TVMA: ADULT CONTENT, ADULT LANGUAGE, VIOLENCE

Running Time: 60 minutes

Genre: Drama

As Bill debates what to do with Rhonda, who may or may not testify at Roman's impending trial, another potential witness, Kathy, goes underground with Joey and Wanda. Frank finds himself in a bind and at Lois' mercy, and tries to talk his way out of the predicament, though she is not moved. A revelation from Ana tests Bill's commitment, especially when he and Barb catch her in a compromising position. Margene gets disturbing personal news, but keeps her emotions in check. Barb's sister Cindy is back in town and heading up an anti-gaming committee that threatens the Henrickson's recent investments. Wanda spills a secret about Nicki's past that even Bill doesn't know, creating an instant riff and further fanning Bill's ire towards Roman. Sarah decides to attend her senior prom with Heather, with Ben and Frankie as their dates. (TVMA) (AC,AL,V)


And for those who want a really complete synopsis of the last episode, #26 "Empire"

Written by Mark V. Olsen & Will Scheffer
Directed by Jim McKay

Bill and Ana navigate dating - along with Barb, Nicki, Margene and the kids. Ana can't get used to the idea of dating being a group event. Meanwhile, Barb, Nicki and Margene are at odds over how much courting (from them) Ana needs.

Margie insists to Bill that she does not want to get pregnant again any time soon; it's Nicki's turn. She wonders why Nicki's been unable to conceive and Bill, baffled as well, turns to Barb, asking if Nicki's discussed it with her. When Barb and Margene confront Nicki about what might be wrong, she's furious that Bill's been speaking about such a private matter behind her back. She insists to Bill there's nothing wrong physically; what they need is a blessing from Roman. After initial resistance, Bill gives in.

At the prison, Roman asks to see Bill alone after his blessing, and demands his help locating Rhonda (who Nicki has discovered is one of the Jane Does). If Rhonda is a witness, Roman warns, he will make sure Bill's wives and children are called to testify about her credibility -- thereby exposing them in public. Backed into a corner, Bill realizes he has to stop Rhonda. Meanwhile, Adaleen and Nicki are plotting to locate Rhonda themselves.

Wracked with guilt, Kathy begs Joey to tell Wanda that she's testifying against Roman but Joey insists it's safest to keep her in the dark. But Wanda is displeased with what she perceives as Joey and Kathy's extra closeness and demands that Alby get rid of Kathy - or else. Alby warns Wanda to leave Kathy alone, then alerts Joey to Wanda's threat and counters with one of his own: he'll send Wanda away if she poses a threat to Kathy testifying against Roman.

Barb goes alone to have her biopsy. Afterwards they won't let her drive herself home so she has to call Bill for a ride. Stunned to learn she may be sick again, Bill realizes this is the reason Barb changed her mind about dating Ana.

Bill's and Don's presentation to Jerry for their casino plans is a bust because Jerry was expecting a model (which Don promised and then forgot to tell Bill). Afterwards, Bill chews his partner out, but Don refuses to put any more money into building a model insisting he's too stretched.

After making love with Scott, Sarah tells him she's going to Arizona State; hurt, he wonders why she's running away from her problems - and him. Back home, Sarah announces to Barb she was accepted into ASU's nursing program and wants to go. Stunned, Barb tells her they can't afford it and demands to know if this has anything to do with Ana; Sarah doesn't deny it.

Empowered by her success as a business woman, Margie entertains Ana at the Henricksons' dinner date with the story of the recent sale she made for Weber. Nicki sighs in frustration, accusing Margie is of neglecting her duties as wife and mother in favor of "sales associate" and all three wives get into an argument as Bill tries to keep the peace. Ana observes as the outsider that she is.

Margie shows up at the meeting with Jerry with the expensive new model for the casino. Don loses his cool before the meeting and Bill sends him home. Jerry likes the model, but is doubtful about Bill and Don's ability to work together, not to mention the bad publicity of polygamy being front page news. Margie tries to stop him by pleading that his dismissal of Bill because of polygamy is the same as dismissing Jerry as a "dirty Indian." Jerry is insulted and Bill is furious at her outburst.

Bill learns from Don's wife Peg that Vernie and Jo-Jo (Don's two other wives) ran off with their kids - Don and Peg are now unwillingly monogamous.

Nicki confides to her mother that she doesn't want to have another baby, having seen that Adaleen resented having so many children that it made her more mother and less wife. Her mother chastises Nicki for being selfish.

Frank shows up at Lois's with Jodean to introduce her to her new sister-wife and ends up attacking Lois when she taunts him right back. As he chokes her, Wanda tries to stop him, waving a knife and Nita (Franky's mother) hears Wanda's cries for help and whacks Frank with a shovel. Lois takes over, sending Nita and her other sister-wives away as she deals with Frank's limp body.

Ana cancels their third date at the last minute, insisting there's no room for her in their life. Bill tells Nicki what's going on with Barb's health, swearing her to secrecy. Barb tells Nicki she needs to talk - catching her off guard when she announces they've made an appointment with a fertility specialist. In the waiting room, Margie (feeling like a failure after the meeting with Jerry) tells Barb she's decided it's time for her to be a mother now; but in the future, she'd like to pursue sales. In her exam, Nicki confesses to the doctor that she's been taking birth control and he asks whether she wants to have a child, reminding her it's her choice. She insists she loves being a mother, but ultimately asks for another birth control prescription.

Franky takes Sarah, Heather, Donna and Ben to the "Butt Hutt," a group flop house for kids kicked off the Juniper Creek compound. Scott follows Sarah there to tell her he'll get a job in Phoenix and go with her, but Sarah breaks up with him. As she heads back into the house crying, Franky comforts her. Heather comes running to Sarah and Ben: she's found Rhonda's room. When Franky defends her they realize she's his girlfriend.

Bill tracks Jerry down to apologize for Margie's outburst but Jerry says he's realized she was right. Bill makes a plea for their unlikely partnership and Jerry agrees: Weber Gaming is back in business.

Bill attends Ben's flag ceremony and tells Don the good news about Jerry. He asks Don to apply for the business loan since he's now a credit-worthy monogamous. They watch proudly as Ben raises the flag. Bill calls Lois to report his pride about being able to be at a public event with all of his sons. As Lois hangs up, she ties up Frank.

Sarah sobs, a copy of 'Options for a Young Mother' on her lap. Meanwhile, Ana opens the door to find Bill and the entire family there for an indoor picnic. Barb gets a call from the doctor - her test is clean. She reveals the good news to Bill with a look and Nicki beams, catching their exchange. With the good news, Barb suddenly sees Ana joining the family in a new light.

Guest Starring:
Robert Beltran as Jerry Flute
Mireille Enos as Kathy & Jodean
Aaron Paul as Scott
Audrey Wasilewski as Pam
Mark L. Young as Franky

Decker
02-01-09, 11:54 PM
Nobody watching this tonight? I'm waiting til tomorrow as well, I guess.

sven
02-02-09, 12:22 AM
Nobody watching this tonight? I'm waiting til tomorrow as well, I guess.

My DVR has stopped recording it for whatever reason. I'm watching the replay right now.

LickTheABCs
02-02-09, 12:26 AM
I did. Another great fucking episode.

Glad they killed off Margie's mom. She only had 1 appearance but that was enough.

grrr
02-02-09, 12:42 AM
Good to see Bill come down from his authoritarian perch and act like a human being now and then. Sarah is luminous as always.

I'd like for this Anna situation to be resolved sooner rather than later. I like the character, but there's only so much on-off action that we can take.

joefrog91
02-02-09, 01:29 AM
Lots of family secrets coming out. This season is building up to be the best one yet.

Timber
02-02-09, 09:46 AM
The whole Rhonda/Limo scene sort of freaked me out.

LickTheABCs
02-02-09, 01:42 PM
The whole Rhonda/Limo scene sort of freaked me out.

Any scene with Rhonda freaks me out.

Thrush
02-03-09, 01:18 AM
I did. Another great fucking episode.

Glad they killed off Margie's mom. She only had 1 appearance but that was enough.

I thought she was gong to dump her ashes on the floor and then vacuum them up.

Decker
02-03-09, 01:43 AM
THAT was great. Not good, great. Best hour of TV I've seen this year and the best episode of this show so far. So many stories coming together so nicely at once. I think that the view of the child brides was a long time coming but well worth the payoff and the reveal on Nikki was rather surprising. Man, I hate Barb's sister. Nice to get Sarah to sing a song -- I was sort of expecting someone to request "Honey, Honey" after that.

bdshort
02-03-09, 02:13 AM
I agree this was a fantastic episode. Then again, Sarah is my favorite character and it was a big episode for her, and she has a really nice voice. Also really liked the closing with "Forever Young" playing over it.

grrr
02-03-09, 07:44 AM
I agree this was a fantastic episode. Then again, Sarah is my favorite character and it was a big episode for her, and she has a really nice voice. Also really liked the closing with "Forever Young" playing over it.

That was an amazing closing sequence--I had chills.

Itunes is making a fortune off of me thanks to this show.

FantasticVSDoom
02-03-09, 08:26 AM
I agree that it was a great episode... At first I had a hard time following it as it was a little "choppy", but at the end it turned out to be one of the best episodes of TV I've watched. I cant decide who is the most fucked up person on the show yet. I go from Wanda to Rhonda to Bill's mom, yet I cant make up my mind.

Red Dog
02-03-09, 08:49 AM
I thought she was gong to dump her ashes on the floor and then vacuum them up.

Same here.

iggystar
02-03-09, 08:57 AM
Yeah, I'm done with the Ana storyline. I'm already against Bill getting a fourth wife, so do it or don't already.

One can only hope that Sara can find a way to happiness because she deserves it. I agree, she's the best character on the show. She loves her family, is conflicted about them, but puts her foot down when necessary to have some normalcy. It broke my heart when she told Ben she was pregnant but didn't want to discuss it so she could enjoy the moment. :)

Best show on television.

BDB
02-03-09, 01:08 PM
This was a fantastic episode, I love an episode like this that builds and builds and builds.

The scene after the pool was fantastic, Kathy was great, even Wanda stood up a little there.

Ana's character is annoying to say the least, but Barb is great wit her.

andicus
02-03-09, 02:18 PM
Excellent episode! The Rhonda bit by the limo was pretty bizarre.

I keep waiting for Nikki's boss to hit on her. Isn't he the guy that was in The Office in the earlier seasons at corporate?

Loved the ending. Very touching! I thought, for a moment, that Ben was going to go all moral on her. Thankfully that didn't happen, most likely averted by her "It's my prom night" comment.

Timber
02-03-09, 02:34 PM
If I was Bill I would have tapped that ass at the bus station. Guess I don't have what it takes to live a Mormon lifestyle.

BDB
02-03-09, 02:59 PM
I half thought Ben was gonna make a move on Sarah

SexualPudding
02-03-09, 03:02 PM
I was really hoping Wanda would drown in the pool. Oh well.....

BDB
02-03-09, 03:06 PM
I was too, but she seemed very normal afterwards, and oddly together, and she gave us the nikki reveal.

Geofferson
02-03-09, 03:17 PM
I half thought Ben was gonna make a move on Sarah
I was thinking the same.

Best episode of the season thus far. Tough to top the stellar last season, but the writers are doing everything right thus far.

FantasticVSDoom
02-03-09, 03:19 PM
I half thought Ben was gonna make a move on Sarah

I thought the same thing as well...

Michael T Hudson
02-03-09, 04:44 PM
I thought she was gong to dump her ashes on the floor and then vacuum them up.



Agreed I almost thought for a moment she had done it all ready and the vacuum clogged. I am thinking the Dude and Walter would have loved to have the box option for Donnie.

Holysmoker
02-03-09, 05:15 PM
So Wandas' suicide plan was to float and hold her breath?

Decker
02-03-09, 05:30 PM
Sometimes, when they're not onscreen much but are being discussed, I get Wanda and Rhonda confused. Wish they used names that didn't rhyme for those two fucked up girls.

I'm sure you were supposed to think Margene would vacuum up those ashes. The point is that even though she hated her mom, she couldn't do that.

Please tell me nobody SERIOUSLY thought they'd see Ben put the moves on his own sister.

As much as I love the Sarah character, I still have a hard time believing someone as mature and responsible as her would have unprotected sex. It seems out of character, though I know teenages aren't always great decision-makers in real life.


My wife got a kick out of that closing music -- Alphaville's "Forever Young" was her senior prom song.

Timber
02-03-09, 06:14 PM
So Wandas' suicide plan was to float and hold her breath?

Wanda's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

wewantflair
02-03-09, 06:51 PM
I've said this every season that this show's been on, but it really is the best show on TV. Episodes like Sunday's prove it.

Pistol Pete
02-03-09, 07:36 PM
As much as I love the Sarah character, I still have a hard time believing someone as mature and responsible as her would have unprotected sex. It seems out of character, though I know teenages aren't always great decision-makers in real life.
Considering her background Sarah likely was never taught about condoms. She was probably taught abstinence and heard somewhere that if you do it doggie-style, you can't get pregnant.

Even mature and responsible girls can be ignorant.

Coral
02-03-09, 09:33 PM
Great episode.

I also wondered if Sarah and Ben were going to get more than chummy. I'm glad they didn't go for the shock value, but I have to believe they purposely set it up that way to make us wonder. It was kinda creepy.

The reveal on Nikki was good, but I always wondered about her relationship with her father. I got the incest vibe in the 1st season (or was it the 2nd season?) when Bill walked in on Nikki and Roman laying on the bed talking.

I really think they're trying to hint that incest is a possibility at Juniper Creek, much like we hear in similar real-world scenarios.

Oh, and Sarah is fucking hot. I see that Amanda Seyfried will be in Atom Egoyan's next film. That could be a very interesting career move for her.

Thrush
02-03-09, 10:14 PM
Wanda's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

More of a cry for help/attention than anything.

grrr
02-03-09, 10:55 PM
Great episode.

I also wondered if Sarah and Ben were going to get more than chummy. I'm glad they didn't go for the shock value, but I have to believe they purposely set it up that way to make us wonder. It was kinda creepy.

The reveal on Nikki was good, but I always wondered about her relationship with her father. I got the incest vibe in the 1st season (or was it the 2nd season?) when Bill walked in on Nikki and Roman laying on the bed talking.

I really think they're trying to hint that incest is a possibility at Juniper Creek, much like we hear in similar real-world scenarios.

Oh, and Sarah is fucking hot. I see that Amanda Seyfried will be in Atom Egoyan's next film. That could be a very interesting career move for her.

Maybe she'll enter the Mia Kirshner phase of her career. :drool:

As for the incest angle, I don't think Roman is capable of that. Whatever his sins, he has always been a conscientious family man; it was clear that he was genuinely hurt and surprised when Alby turned on him last season. It would demean the show to make its chief villain a caricatured child-rapist, and I don't want to see the writers taking that route.

Alby taking advantage of Nicki when they were adolescents would work. Come to think of it, any of the men on the compound other than Roman could've done something like that.

boredsilly
02-05-09, 12:44 PM
Man, this show is amazing. I really think this show is just as dense as The Wire was, as there is just so much shit going on at any given time. Thankfully the writers are adept at juggling all of the storylines.

I am continually amazed that a show that is about what Big Love is about could be so damn captivating.

meritocracy
02-05-09, 04:23 PM
Not sure if this has been reported here, but a well deserved renewal for Season four has been announced.

From E! online:

Yay! Network sources confirm that HBO's wonderful family drama Big Love has just been renewed for a fourth season. Currently in the midst of season three, the tale of a devout polygamist family living in the Salt Lake City suburbs is one of the network's marquee series.

Want to know what this pickup means for the fans? I've got the exclusive word from cocreators Will Scheffer and Mark V. Olsen...

Mark and Will gave us this statement about the good news:

We couldn't be happier. We love making this show and we love our collaboration with HBO. They've truly been maligned in the press this year. If you show me a better network to work with I'll eat our DVD collections.

Mark and I want to tell our fans we're still truly sorry for the long wait last year. We promise two things. As season three continues they'll forget about the time they waited and get caught up in our best season ever. And we also swear we won't make them wait as long next year. Mark and I insist on making a better show each year, so we won't ever stint on quality, but we're trying to be better faster.

sb5
02-05-09, 07:57 PM
Great news! I'm surprised they renewed it so early in the season.

kilcher
02-06-09, 12:51 AM
Good to hear. Big Love is the reason we recently added HBO. We'd watched the DVD's for the first 2 seasons and there was no way we could wait another year to get season 3!

Nausicaa
02-06-09, 07:20 PM
Just caught up on this series. A really wonderful show, it's taken me by surprise. And I agree, this episode was fantastic. There were pretty heavy developments in all the major storylines, and all the characters were great.

I really appreciated the score in this episode as well. Someone already mentioned the closing scene, but a lot of the piano scores throughout the episode really heightened the impact many scenes had.

I was surprised to see Barb's mother take an active step towards reconciliation. I really, really want someone to shoot her sister though.

Giantrobo
02-07-09, 12:25 PM
Good ep. I think Big Love may feature some of the scariest and mentally unstable Females on TV. I mean shit, between Rhonda, Bill's Mom, Barb's Sister, Nikki's Mom, Nikki(at times), and last but in no way the least....Wanda...who can sleep without one eye open around these women? :lol:

I don't get all the Ana/dating Ana hate and impatience. Clearly the Hendersons are trying to do things "the right way" when it comes to her and just adding her as a wife, just like that, would not work. But whatever, I seriously doubt she'll end up being a 4th anyway.

Timber
02-07-09, 01:02 PM
I like Ana and I don't mind the potential 4th wife drama. I don't think it will happen because I don't think the show can support 4 wives.

LickTheABCs
02-07-09, 02:27 PM
^ Awesome news about the 4th Season.

I don't mind the Ana storyline. I don't think it'll last too much longer, though.

sb5
02-08-09, 12:01 AM
I like the Ana storyline just on the level that I like seeing the actual "process" of trying to add another wife. It's never something we got to see with Bill's other 3 wives.

I don't really want a 4th wife added, though.

Gunde
02-08-09, 11:54 AM
I keep waiting for Nikki's boss to hit on her. Isn't he the guy that was in The Office in the earlier seasons at corporate?
Yes Chip Esten. Funny guy - he was semi-regular on 'Whose Line Is It Anyway?'


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