Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles -- "Goodbye to All That" -- 10/6/08
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All 13 episodes scheduled this season are new
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Very good episode. Wife wanted to watch this instead of Chuck tonight. Good choice. Next week looks to get Cameron back into action, with a bit of humor, too.
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Don't mean to alarm, but I can't get a listing for next week, but I can for Heroes.
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LOL, I forgot about the NLCS!
Great episode and I really liked the preview for the episode in two weeks. One thing that's bugging me is the consistent talk about the future, details of things to happen but they can't be stopped.
Great episode and I really liked the preview for the episode in two weeks. One thing that's bugging me is the consistent talk about the future, details of things to happen but they can't be stopped.
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Maybe we need to be writing to Dodge to tell them, thank for supporting an awesome show.
I would hate see this one go away. That was the best episode of the two seasons, but even the ones that weren't as good were better than the alternative.
I would hate see this one go away. That was the best episode of the two seasons, but even the ones that weren't as good were better than the alternative.
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My second favorite ep. of the series, just slightly behind last season's finale. Could have been the best if not for yet another season 2 WTF?! moment--this time when Derek gets a job within minutes of walking into that military school.
Could have done with the heavy-handed moments at the end with Sarah and the kid (his head on her shoulder? then lap? REALLY?), but everything else was quality, from the pacing, to the action, to the actually-decent scenes with Manson. (And no stupid pregnant girl subplots! YAY!)
Deleted it from season pass after last week's train wreck, but glad I flipped to it between innings of the baseball game. Will definitely be checking out next weeks.
Question: Bad sign that the only commercials were from Dodge? Think the show knows it's run is almost over and had to squeeze a season's-worth of Dodge ads?
Could have done with the heavy-handed moments at the end with Sarah and the kid (his head on her shoulder? then lap? REALLY?), but everything else was quality, from the pacing, to the action, to the actually-decent scenes with Manson. (And no stupid pregnant girl subplots! YAY!)
Deleted it from season pass after last week's train wreck, but glad I flipped to it between innings of the baseball game. Will definitely be checking out next weeks.
Question: Bad sign that the only commercials were from Dodge? Think the show knows it's run is almost over and had to squeeze a season's-worth of Dodge ads?
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This was a fantastic episode. I could care less about what happened with Sarah and that little kid, but the plot revolving around John and Derek was great. I wish they did that more; show parts of the future and then relate it back to the present and members that will play a part in the resistance.
Also, I'm really digging the Ellison subplot. I'm pretty much convinced that he has a big part in the creation of SkyNet, and I feel like he realizes he is involved in something bigger and yet he isn't sure what side he is supposed to be on. I think his relationship with SkyNet could turn out to be very interesting.
The closed captioning got it wrong; he said AFK.
Also, I'm really digging the Ellison subplot. I'm pretty much convinced that he has a big part in the creation of SkyNet, and I feel like he realizes he is involved in something bigger and yet he isn't sure what side he is supposed to be on. I think his relationship with SkyNet could turn out to be very interesting.
The closed captioning got it wrong; he said AFK.
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Since this isn't a show I look for a lot of depth in, I'm trying to figure if there was more to the Wizard of Oz references beyond the obvious: Sarah reading about the Bad Witch as the guys are facing the terminator - and the whole melting thing. And they took the name Baum, who is the author of Oz.
This season is keeping me interested - I was thinking it would quickly fall into repetition, but is doing good stuff so far.
This season is keeping me interested - I was thinking it would quickly fall into repetition, but is doing good stuff so far.
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I just got kidnapped....but I need to finish my book report!
Wow, this show's dialogue is hilariously bad.
Wow, this show's dialogue is hilariously bad.
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How high brow should the dialogue be?
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I don't know. Maybe scared shitless, hiding in a closet like a real kid would be. Overall, everything except for that kid plot point last night was good. That was just so laughably bad it brought down the entire episode.
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While I agree the kid subplot was terrible, everything at the military school and the future was awesome (with the exception of the old man make-up on the one guy... come on, he's supposed to be older than Derek!).
Loved the plan they put into effect, as well as the little character moments like Derek spotting the deer. He's quickly becoming my favorite character on the show. The whole PTSD aspect is very cool and I'm glad they haven't lost that. Remember, he spent a relatively short portion of his life pre-Apocalypse, so this all has to be weird for him.
That big-ass gun was awesome, and should totally be employed more. Revealing that the reason the military kid was so important was because HE saves John Connor... that was a sock to the gut, as was the realization that he died doing so, meaning he and John never meet again in the future. That and the whole, "We all die for you..." line offer glimpses of what this show COULD be if given time to grow.
I only have a few minor complaints. Once again, T2 Sarah would kick this Sarah's ass. THAT Sarah wouldn't give two shits about the other potential targets. Also, wouldn't the Terminator have already killed the kid's parents and waited for contact, a la EVERY OTHER TERMINATOR we've seen?
Still, fantastic episode, and a HUGE improvement over last week's crapfest. Surpisingly little Cameron for such a great ep as well!
I love that they are expanding the universe, as someone mentioned in a previous thread. For example, the fact that Derek is showing John that these things CAN be taken down, and not simply by throwing another Terminator at it.
The Urinator is proving to be a lot more "human" than the T-1000... not just in behavior but in her seeming fascination with humanity. Why, for example, would she start banging that dude before killing him?
Also, with this guy now dead, wouldn't Agent Ellison start to suspect something? I mean, she even intimated that things would be better without him around... AND he tells her about Sarah, whom he swore he'd never lead anyone to? If he's going bad, so be it... he just turned heel pretty quickly, I guess.
Still, great episode, and I wouldn't mind more of these, and less of "Cameron-goes-crazy" episodes.
-Doc
Loved the plan they put into effect, as well as the little character moments like Derek spotting the deer. He's quickly becoming my favorite character on the show. The whole PTSD aspect is very cool and I'm glad they haven't lost that. Remember, he spent a relatively short portion of his life pre-Apocalypse, so this all has to be weird for him.
That big-ass gun was awesome, and should totally be employed more. Revealing that the reason the military kid was so important was because HE saves John Connor... that was a sock to the gut, as was the realization that he died doing so, meaning he and John never meet again in the future. That and the whole, "We all die for you..." line offer glimpses of what this show COULD be if given time to grow.
I only have a few minor complaints. Once again, T2 Sarah would kick this Sarah's ass. THAT Sarah wouldn't give two shits about the other potential targets. Also, wouldn't the Terminator have already killed the kid's parents and waited for contact, a la EVERY OTHER TERMINATOR we've seen?
Still, fantastic episode, and a HUGE improvement over last week's crapfest. Surpisingly little Cameron for such a great ep as well!
I love that they are expanding the universe, as someone mentioned in a previous thread. For example, the fact that Derek is showing John that these things CAN be taken down, and not simply by throwing another Terminator at it.
The Urinator is proving to be a lot more "human" than the T-1000... not just in behavior but in her seeming fascination with humanity. Why, for example, would she start banging that dude before killing him?
Also, with this guy now dead, wouldn't Agent Ellison start to suspect something? I mean, she even intimated that things would be better without him around... AND he tells her about Sarah, whom he swore he'd never lead anyone to? If he's going bad, so be it... he just turned heel pretty quickly, I guess.
Still, great episode, and I wouldn't mind more of these, and less of "Cameron-goes-crazy" episodes.
-Doc
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I just watched it on Hulu and it was also only Dodge commercials. Seems to me it was one of those "limited commercial interruptions brought to you by Dodge" type of episodes. 1 hour TV shows are 44 minutes and change, rest being commercials. This episode ran 52 minutes. Dodge pays more to be the only commercials and they can make more money on less commercial time.
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Also, with this guy now dead, wouldn't Agent Ellison start to suspect something? I mean, she even intimated that things would be better without him around... AND he tells her about Sarah, whom he swore he'd never lead anyone to? If he's going bad, so be it... he just turned heel pretty quickly, I guess.
-Doc