Mad Men-9/28/08--"Six Month Leave"
09-29-08, 01:41 AM
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Holy moly! That ending scene just gobsmacked me.
At least Don and Roger were kind enough to give Freddy a fun send-off, given his drunken transgressions earlier.
Loved the reaction to Marilyn's suicide, also very much a contemporary phenomena.
Don's got a nice right cross.
Betty's a wreck, but too prideful and still trying to find proof of Don's infidelity.
Nice scene between Peggy and Pete. It's going to be a shitstorm when he finds out what she's been hiding from him.
At least Don and Roger were kind enough to give Freddy a fun send-off, given his drunken transgressions earlier.
Loved the reaction to Marilyn's suicide, also very much a contemporary phenomena.
Don's got a nice right cross.
Betty's a wreck, but too prideful and still trying to find proof of Don's infidelity.
Nice scene between Peggy and Pete. It's going to be a shitstorm when he finds out what she's been hiding from him.
09-29-08, 07:36 AM
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OK I missed something. Is Roger leaving his wife for Jane (off-screen affair) because it sounded like he said a different name, but based on the reactions, it appeared to be Jane?
I had totally forgotten about the Freddy Rumsen character.
I don't really care about or follow the whole thing with the dude from the riding club.
I had totally forgotten about the Freddy Rumsen character.
I don't really care about or follow the whole thing with the dude from the riding club.
09-29-08, 07:59 AM
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09-29-08, 08:08 AM
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This was going to be MY post, Red Dog! lol. My wife turned to me last night and asked if she missed something. I came off like a know-it-all and said, "well blah blah Roger is obviously sleeping with Don's secretary "off-screen"). In reality, I was a little lost myself, but I guess Jane knew what was going to happen when she went to Roger to save her job. We had to have assumed they were sleeping together. But I came off like it was the most natural thing in the world. Some guy!
09-29-08, 08:30 AM
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This was going to be MY post, Red Dog! lol. My wife turned to me last night and asked if she missed something. I came off like a know-it-all and said, "well blah blah Roger is obviously sleeping with Don's secretary "off-screen"). In reality, I was a little lost myself, but I guess Jane knew what was going to happen when she went to Roger to save her job. We had to have assumed they were sleeping together. But I came off like it was the most natural thing in the world. Some guy!
Good. Now I feel less stupid. I swear I thought I heard him say another name.
09-29-08, 09:05 AM
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BTW, anyone else notice Marti Noxon's name in the credits as consulting producer? I think she's been there all season.
09-29-08, 01:23 PM
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Agreed. He reminds me of Andrew McCarthy - a bland, soft preppie with zero screen presence. Is Betsy encouraging her friend to have an affair with him? I was a bit surprised by her setting them up on a lunch date, since one is married and the other engaged, if I remember correctly. So infidelity is acceptable for some, but not for others?
09-29-08, 03:27 PM
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I liked the ""a real Archibald Wittman maneuver" line at the "after party"!
Is it possible that Roger slept with Jane (hence Jane getting all teary there thinking that she's the one he's leaving his wife for), but Roger's really planning to make a move for Joan?
Could Roger sleeping with Jane also explain how Roger knows so much about Don's problems as of late - ya know, pillow talk and all that?
Doesn't Roger know that Jane still tries to hit on Don, and that she's really just the office mattress?
Is it possible that Roger slept with Jane (hence Jane getting all teary there thinking that she's the one he's leaving his wife for), but Roger's really planning to make a move for Joan?
Could Roger sleeping with Jane also explain how Roger knows so much about Don's problems as of late - ya know, pillow talk and all that?
Doesn't Roger know that Jane still tries to hit on Don, and that she's really just the office mattress?
09-29-08, 05:09 PM
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Great episode. The writers are doing an excellent job with all these characters slow burns into self-destruction. Not much is coming off as forced or phony. Also, I loved this exchange on the elevator to the gambling joint:
"Was it Milwaukee?"
"Yes sir."
"Son of a bitch."
"Was it Milwaukee?"
"Yes sir."
"Son of a bitch."
09-29-08, 05:22 PM
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I need to find one of those underground casinos around here. Pretty sweet. I also loved the Floyd Patterson reference (a NY icon at the time - he would go on to lose the heavyweight title to Sonny Liston later that year).
09-29-08, 07:26 PM
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I love all the little touches in this show that reminds you this is a world long gone by.
Does anyone get taken out to dinner anymore to be told they are getting canned? And then all go out gambling afterwards?
Does anyone get taken out to dinner anymore to be told they are getting canned? And then all go out gambling afterwards?
09-30-08, 10:32 PM
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Is it possible that Roger slept with Jane (hence Jane getting all teary there thinking that she's the one he's leaving his wife for), but Roger's really planning to make a move for Joan?
Could Roger sleeping with Jane also explain how Roger knows so much about Don's problems as of late - ya know, pillow talk and all that?
Could Roger sleeping with Jane also explain how Roger knows so much about Don's problems as of late - ya know, pillow talk and all that?
Your second point, re: pillow talk, is how I took it. That's what made Don so pissed. He explicitly told Jane that the situation regarding he and Betty was personal and not open for discussion. Whereas he initially thought Roger was just intuitive he realized he'd been sold out by his pillow-talking secretary. Hence the "I want her off my desk".
