Onkyo 605 TrueHD/DTS HD MA question
07-01-08, 02:05 PM
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Onkyo 605 TrueHD/DTS HD MA question
I've had my 605 for about 3 months now and love it. However, I seem to be having a problem getting what I need out of lossless audio. My PS3 and HD A3 are set to LPCM, so I have that covered, but my receiver only says PCM and I think it's only stereo technically. I've listened to TrueHD tracks in Pro Logic Movie mode but I'm pretty sure it's not the way the lossless would sound. I keep hearing I should set the listening mode to Multichannel, but can't. What mode do I set it to?
I've tried Direct, by the way, and only get stereo out of it.
I've tried Direct, by the way, and only get stereo out of it.
07-01-08, 11:03 PM
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No, the PS3 needs to output PCM. It doesn't do bitstream passthrough.
The receiver should say PCM. Maybe you should do some careful testing to see about stereo vs surround. Checking the center channel should be pretty easy.
The receiver should say PCM. Maybe you should do some careful testing to see about stereo vs surround. Checking the center channel should be pretty easy.
07-01-08, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
No, the PS3 needs to output PCM. It doesn't do bitstream passthrough.
The receiver should say PCM. Maybe you should do some careful testing to see about stereo vs surround. Checking the center channel should be pretty easy.
The receiver should say PCM. Maybe you should do some careful testing to see about stereo vs surround. Checking the center channel should be pretty easy.
Will a Dolby Pro Logic listening mode still show off the power of a lossless track, however?
07-06-08, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
No, the PS3 needs to output PCM. It doesn't do bitstream passthrough.
The receiver should say PCM. Maybe you should do some careful testing to see about stereo vs surround. Checking the center channel should be pretty easy.
The receiver should say PCM. Maybe you should do some careful testing to see about stereo vs surround. Checking the center channel should be pretty easy.
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07-06-08, 09:16 AM
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The HD-A3 and PS3 should both be putting out multichannel PCM.
I have the 605, and I find the best way to check what you're getting at the receiver is to hit the Display button either on the remote or the front of the receiver. It should read MCH PCM 5.1 if you're sending multchannel PCM from the PS3 or HD-A3 since the players are doing the decoding. (I think any 6.1 or 7.1 tracks will be downconverted to 5.1 but I am not 100% sure).
On the player(s), I don't know the exact settings on the A3, but based on my experience with the A20, you want it set to output PCM and not downmixed PCM. I never leave my stuff set at Auto. The PS3 probably has something similar.
Regarding ProLogic, I don't use it. I listen to everything in Direct mode.
I have the 605, and I find the best way to check what you're getting at the receiver is to hit the Display button either on the remote or the front of the receiver. It should read MCH PCM 5.1 if you're sending multchannel PCM from the PS3 or HD-A3 since the players are doing the decoding. (I think any 6.1 or 7.1 tracks will be downconverted to 5.1 but I am not 100% sure).
On the player(s), I don't know the exact settings on the A3, but based on my experience with the A20, you want it set to output PCM and not downmixed PCM. I never leave my stuff set at Auto. The PS3 probably has something similar.
Regarding ProLogic, I don't use it. I listen to everything in Direct mode.
Last edited by bunkaroo; 07-06-08 at 09:19 AM.
07-06-08, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by shaun3000
It doesn't? It has the option to output either bitstream or PCM. Am I missing something? As for PCM, does it output multichannel PCM or just stereo? While I'm at it, does it make a difference if you use HDMI or optical?
07-06-08, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tommyp007
You have to use HDMI. Anything sent over optical will be downconverted to 5.1
Last edited by bunkaroo; 07-06-08 at 12:10 PM.
07-14-08, 08:06 PM
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In the end, I realized it was the PLAYERS and not my 605.
Okay, I got my PS3 going with lossless by setting the HDMI audio manually and it now sounds great. On my HD-A3, however, I can't get anything. I've set the player to Auto and PCM and get a no-go on both. Any ideas how to switch this?
I should also add that setting it on PCM only gives me 2.0, even on 5.1 titles
Okay, I got my PS3 going with lossless by setting the HDMI audio manually and it now sounds great. On my HD-A3, however, I can't get anything. I've set the player to Auto and PCM and get a no-go on both. Any ideas how to switch this?
I should also add that setting it on PCM only gives me 2.0, even on 5.1 titles
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07-15-08, 11:30 AM
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I don't think the A3 will bitstream out TrueHD or DTS HD/MA only the A35 & X2 will. The PS3 I think with the new profile upgrade it can but I'm guessing. I don't have a PS3,waiting for a stand alone that bitstreams TrueHD & DTS HD/MA and is $200 or under. Not paying these crazy prices! 
07-15-08, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SUPERMANROB
I don't think the A3 will bitstream out TrueHD or DTS HD/MA only the A35 & X2 will. The PS3 I think with the new profile upgrade it can but I'm guessing. I don't have a PS3,waiting for a stand alone that bitstreams TrueHD & DTS HD/MA and is $200 or under. Not paying these crazy prices!
07-16-08, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Peckinpah
Let me re-clarify that I'm trying to get TrueHD tracks to play back LPCM on my A3, which I can't seem to do.
The only Toshiba players that will send the audio to the reciever to decode are the A35 and the XA2 I believe. Basically, you are still getting TrueHD, but the A3 decodes it and sends it already decoded to the receiver. The 605 will display "Multichannel" or "Multichannel PCM"....something like that.
07-16-08, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gimmepilotwings
You are getting it, you just don't know it.
The only Toshiba players that will send the audio to the reciever to decode are the A35 and the XA2 I believe. Basically, you are still getting TrueHD, but the A3 decodes it and sends it already decoded to the receiver. The 605 will display "Multichannel" or "Multichannel PCM"....something like that.
The only Toshiba players that will send the audio to the reciever to decode are the A35 and the XA2 I believe. Basically, you are still getting TrueHD, but the A3 decodes it and sends it already decoded to the receiver. The 605 will display "Multichannel" or "Multichannel PCM"....something like that.
07-18-08, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by trubiet
ONKYO released an update to fix switching issues on the 605, you need to call them with your serial number and they will be able to tell you if your amp is "affected".
To quote myself, I gave the guy the answer...wonder if he read it?
07-18-08, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by trubiet
To quote myself, I gave the guy the answer...wonder if he read it?
EDIT: My model doesn't require an update.
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07-20-08, 12:13 AM
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I'm a complete idiot. I never realized the HDMI Audio settings on the 605 were set to on, which hindered me getting lossless. Only took me three months to figure that out!
I could've sworn the setting had to be on. Oh well...
I'm a complete idiot. I never realized the HDMI Audio settings on the 605 were set to on, which hindered me getting lossless. Only took me three months to figure that out!
I could've sworn the setting had to be on. Oh well...
07-20-08, 04:05 AM
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So...are you still getting 2.0 instead of 5.1 through Direct? That's happening to me and it's getting annoying. F'rinstance - when I watch a Yankees game on YESHD, it's 5.1 (which is what it's supposed to be). However, when I watch WWE's SmackDown on WBHD or Conan on NBCHD, they're 2.0 (instead of 5.1).
07-20-08, 09:11 PM
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So...are you still getting 2.0 instead of 5.1 through Direct? That's happening to me and it's getting annoying. F'rinstance - when I watch a Yankees game on YESHD, it's 5.1 (which is what it's supposed to be). However, when I watch WWE's SmackDown on WBHD or Conan on NBCHD, they're 2.0 (instead of 5.1).
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Re: Onkyo 605 TrueHD/DTS HD MA question
Just want to say thanks for this thread.
Just got some new speakers and have been trying them out. Surround has been working on my PS3, but when it came to my HD-A3 I was only getting 2.0 on my Onkyo 705. I don't understand why having the ability to route the sound to your TV would disable 5.1 audio, but apparently it does (at least for the HD-A3).
Wouldn't have figured out without this thread. So thanks again.
Just got some new speakers and have been trying them out. Surround has been working on my PS3, but when it came to my HD-A3 I was only getting 2.0 on my Onkyo 705. I don't understand why having the ability to route the sound to your TV would disable 5.1 audio, but apparently it does (at least for the HD-A3).
Wouldn't have figured out without this thread. So thanks again.
