Just watched Mulholland Dr. for the first time...garbage
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Just watched Mulholland Dr. for the first time...garbage
Seriously, one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The story makes NO sense at all, was poorly paced, and was just a gigantic waste of time. I can't believe people actually like this movie???!?! An incoherent piece of garbage, but I'll give it half a star for showing Naomi Watts in all her "glory".
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Originally Posted by hapgilmore
Seriously, one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The story makes NO sense at all, was poorly paced, and was just a gigantic waste of time. I can't believe people actually like this movie???!?! An incoherent piece of garbage, but I'll give it half a star for showing Naomi Watts in all her "glory".
The pacing is arguable though, definitely a "get into it or don't" style pacing. It's pretty straight forward flick though:
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Dunno how that makes it incoherent/"make NO sense" . Not that a movie necessarily has to make sense in order to be good.
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I think its a great film but it's not for everyone. Also you don't have to call it garbage just cause you dont like it. It obviously isnt for everyone but the reviews and awards recogntion prove that the film apparently has some redeeming values and is not universally panned garbage like you categorize it. Still I guess one man's trash is another mans treasure.
If you hated this I cant imagine how much you would hate Inland Empire.
If you hated this I cant imagine how much you would hate Inland Empire.
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If you hated this I cant imagine how much you would hate Inland Empire.
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Every movie can't be Happy Gilmore.
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I wasn't blown away when I saw it years ago. But it may have been because I was angry after I hit stop on the remote accidently...
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Originally Posted by RichC2
Yup, I'm one of the ones that likes it. Actually, I love it. IMO, the best character study committed to film.
The pacing is arguable though, definitely a "get into it or don't" style pacing. It's pretty straight forward flick though:
Dunno how that makes it incoherent/"make NO sense" . Not that a movie necessarily has to make sense in order to be good.
The pacing is arguable though, definitely a "get into it or don't" style pacing. It's pretty straight forward flick though:
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Dunno how that makes it incoherent/"make NO sense" . Not that a movie necessarily has to make sense in order to be good.
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Mulholland Drive i think is Lynch's most accessible abstract films. But like other's have said, it's a love or hate it sort of deal.
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Originally Posted by The Bus
Every movie can't be Happy Gilmore.
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
I think its a great film but it's not for everyone. Also you don't have to call it garbage just cause you dont like it. It obviously isnt for everyone but the reviews and awards recogntion prove that the film apparently has some redeeming values and is not universally panned garbage like you categorize it. Still I guess one man's trash is another mans treasure.
If you hated this I cant imagine how much you would hate Inland Empire.
If you hated this I cant imagine how much you would hate Inland Empire.
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^Movies do not need to make sense to me for me to enjoy them immensely. I dont understand Mulholland Dr., Lost Highway, certain Nicholas Roeg films, or even something like the Prestige (among many others) but I love or at least like all these quite a bit.
I find Mulholland Dr. to be one of Lynch's most enjoyable films for the first 2/3. Then it goes batshit insane I guess but it still works and is interesting and never dull. It also is scary as shit and I would say its one of the most disturbing/scary films Ive ever seen (Lost Highway is up there on this scale as well). The man behind Winky's appearance n the film is still probably the scariest thing Ive ever seen on a movie screen.
I find Mulholland Dr. to be one of Lynch's most enjoyable films for the first 2/3. Then it goes batshit insane I guess but it still works and is interesting and never dull. It also is scary as shit and I would say its one of the most disturbing/scary films Ive ever seen (Lost Highway is up there on this scale as well). The man behind Winky's appearance n the film is still probably the scariest thing Ive ever seen on a movie screen.
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
^Movies do not need to make sense to me for me to enjoy them immensely. I dont understand Mulholland Dr., Lost Highway, certain Nicholas Roeg films, or even something like the Prestige (among many others) but I love or at least like all these quite a bit.
I find Mulholland Dr. to be one of Lynch's most enjoyable films for the first 2/3. Then it goes batshit insane I guess but it still works and is interesting and never dull. It also is scary as shit and I would say its one of the most disturbing/scary films Ive ever seen (Lost Highway is up there on this scale as well). The man behind Winky's appearance n the film is still probably the scariest thing Ive ever seen on a movie screen.
I find Mulholland Dr. to be one of Lynch's most enjoyable films for the first 2/3. Then it goes batshit insane I guess but it still works and is interesting and never dull. It also is scary as shit and I would say its one of the most disturbing/scary films Ive ever seen (Lost Highway is up there on this scale as well). The man behind Winky's appearance n the film is still probably the scariest thing Ive ever seen on a movie screen.
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Originally Posted by hapgilmore
I don't understand that logic at all. How is something that makes no sense enjoyable? Sure, you can appreciate a movie from a technical perspective (good camera work, creative editing etc...) but if you are not involved in the story, it makes the movie as a whole come across as pointless.
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Originally Posted by hapgilmore
I'm sorry if I offended you, but to me the film was garbage. All these explanations about the plot etc... still don't make the movie any better. It didn't make sense, it was frustrating, and can someone tell me what the deal was with those crazy smiling old people? Seriously that was incredibly stupid.
Honestly, without delving too far into a discussion that will probably confuse you, it's obvious you don't like to have to think about a film in order to understand it. You want Lynch to have someone pop up on screen to explain everything so you can feel satisfied at the end of the film.
You know why Happy Gilmore makes sense? Because a single sentence can describe the film to anyone that's never seen it; Mulholland Dr. could have a thesis written about it. I think it's a phenomenal movie and the thinking you have to do with the clues you're given only makes the reward of watching it that much sweeter. I love it when someone says they hated it because they don't get it.
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Originally Posted by hapgilmore
I don't understand that logic at all. How is something that makes no sense enjoyable? Sure, you can appreciate a movie from a technical perspective (good camera work, creative editing etc...) but if you are not involved in the story, it makes the movie as a whole come across as pointless.
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Haha it's fine if he didn't like the flick, I just don't get what "didn't make sense" about it. The old people? Way to take a visual metaphor and blame an entire movie on it.
So instead of being abrupt and non-descript, at least say what didn't make sense or was frustrating about it.
Hell, the play by play (in my interpretation of the events):
Or chronologically:
I don't get where the confusion sinks in, at all. It's been a couple years since I've seen the movie so I may be a little rusty, but I don't recall it being particularly muddled. Yeah, I was confused the second it ended but it isn't horrifyingly complex. Or are you that hung up on the old couple and creepy dude in the alley way?
So instead of being abrupt and non-descript, at least say what didn't make sense or was frustrating about it.
Hell, the play by play (in my interpretation of the events):
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Or chronologically:
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I don't get where the confusion sinks in, at all. It's been a couple years since I've seen the movie so I may be a little rusty, but I don't recall it being particularly muddled. Yeah, I was confused the second it ended but it isn't horrifyingly complex. Or are you that hung up on the old couple and creepy dude in the alley way?
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I don't precisely agree with you RichC2.
As for enjoying something that doesn't make much sense, well there are aspects to be enjoyed about the film. There's a bunch of little scenes that work by themselves, and together they can create an enjoyable experience even if they seem to not connect. Which they do in this film though. Club Silencio is worth it alone.
I also loved Inland Empire, In some ways more than any other Lynch Film. It had some of the scariest moments I've ever seen.
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As for enjoying something that doesn't make much sense, well there are aspects to be enjoyed about the film. There's a bunch of little scenes that work by themselves, and together they can create an enjoyable experience even if they seem to not connect. Which they do in this film though. Club Silencio is worth it alone.
I also loved Inland Empire, In some ways more than any other Lynch Film. It had some of the scariest moments I've ever seen.