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cungar
05-23-08, 09:39 AM
Lehrer: Finally for the record, you have not lost your desire to be President of the United States have you?

McCain: Certainly itís been put in deep cold storage. haha..

Lehrer: You havenít lost it?

McCain: Well, in 2004, I expect to be campaigning for the reelection of President George W. Bush, and by 2008, I think I might be ready to go down to the old soldiers home and await the cavalry charge there.

Numanoid
05-23-08, 10:10 AM
Well 2008 is a long ways away.

Wait, what?

wendersfan
05-23-08, 10:18 AM
In this case, "old soldiers home" = United States Senate, right?

classicman2
05-23-08, 10:20 AM
trivia: Who is the youngest member of the United States Senate?

classicman2
05-23-08, 10:23 AM
btw: I got it wrong. It's not David Pryor.

VinVega
05-23-08, 10:30 AM
I don't know how fair it is to make McCain's age an issue in this election, but it's probably going to be an issue.

wendersfan
05-23-08, 10:32 AM
trivia: Who is the youngest member of the United States Senate?
My guess would be Mary Landrieu.

classicman2
05-23-08, 10:42 AM
hint: It's a Republican.

We all know who the oldest Senator is. Question: Who is the second oldest? I know this one. I heard him say it on the floor a week or so ago.

classicman2
05-23-08, 10:43 AM
I don't know how fair it is to make McCain's age an issue in this election, but it's probably going to be an issue.

McCain will have to promise not to hold Obama's youth and experience against him. ;)

wendersfan
05-23-08, 10:46 AM
Lautenberg is quite old. Is he 2nd, after Byrd?

classicman2
05-23-08, 10:48 AM
hint: He's also a Republican.

wendersfan
05-23-08, 10:50 AM
Sununu and Stevens. Sununu is younger than me and Stevens is older than c-man. How 'bout them apples? ;)

JasonF
05-23-08, 10:52 AM
I would guess Senator Byrd is the oldest and Senator Stevens the second oldest.

For the youngest, I guessed Senator Pryor, then looked it up and found out he's the second youngest.

The youngest is Senator Sununu

VinVega
05-23-08, 10:55 AM
McCain will have to promise not to hold Obama's youth and experience against him. ;)
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"You're damn right classicman2! I respect my elders and that's why I respect you too."

classicman2
05-23-08, 11:08 AM
I could have sworn (I would lost money on it) that Pryor was only 40.

Anyway - he's not my favorite Arkansas Senator.

classicman2
05-23-08, 11:10 AM
Stevens was a pilot in WWII - I believe with the Flying Tigers.

Th0r S1mpson
05-23-08, 11:10 AM
I don't know how fair it is to make McCain's age an issue in this election, but it's probably going to be an issue.

I think it's entirely fair. His clean bill of health that was just made public helps make it less of a concern, however. For me at least.

People age differently and McCain remains extremely active.

I think that health is more the issue than age, but at his age, the two are linked more directly. That goes for both physical and mental health.

I don't have concerns about McCain doing well for 4 years, but I would be surprised if he ran for re-election at that point, given how presidents tend to age while in office. Of course, we would have to see how he is doing at that point.

This makes his VP pick very important. It would not be a surprise if he developed some health issues in the next 4 years, but we have had unhealthy presidents before.

More important than these questions are their views on the issues and what direction they will take the country. Even if McCain dropped dead, your vote would matter just as much in that regard.

Red Dog
05-23-08, 11:13 AM
I'd be more apt to vote for McCain if he picked a palatable running mate and was in failing health. ;)

classicman2
05-23-08, 11:14 AM
He didn't release his entire medical report - only 400 pages.

Red Dog
05-23-08, 11:18 AM
McCain's hero is Teddy Roosevelt (which certainly makes me shudder). Believe me, he'll do everything he can to stay in the WH as long as he can.

wendersfan
05-23-08, 11:19 AM
For the US Senate:


stats | age
---------+----------
mean | 63.48
min | 44
max | 91
median | 64
--------------------

kvrdave
05-23-08, 11:19 AM
I'd be more apt to vote for McCain if he picked a palatable running mate and was in failing health. ;)

:lol: Agreed. He still has a chance to get my vote.

I still see a lot of Ron Paul signs everywhere. That would be nice.

classicman2
05-23-08, 11:21 AM
I wonder what psychiatric drugs McCain was/has taken?

Now if McCain could find another Calvin Coolidge for VP, Red Dog will be certain to vote for him.

Th0r S1mpson
05-23-08, 11:21 AM
I still see a lot of Ron Paul signs everywhere.

Yes, but the people sleeping under them aren't likely to vote.

classicman2
05-23-08, 11:23 AM
:lol:

That's good!!

wendersfan
05-23-08, 11:24 AM
More useless demographic info about the US Senate:

religion | Freq. Percent Cum.
----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------
Baptist | 5 5.00 5.00
Baptist[10] | 1 1.00 6.00
Christian | 1 1.00 7.00
Church of Christ | 1 1.00 8.00
Church of God | 1 1.00 9.00
Congregationalist | 3 3.00 12.00
Eastern Orthodox | 1 1.00 13.00
Episcopalian | 9 9.00 22.00
Evangelical Christian | 1 1.00 23.00
International Church of the Foursquare | 1 1.00 24.00
Jewish | 13 13.00 37.00
LDS | 5 5.00 42.00
Lutheran | 3 3.00 45.00
Methodist | 12 12.00 57.00
Presbyterian | 10 10.00 67.00
Protestant | 2 2.00 69.00
Roman Catholic | 25 25.00 94.00
Southern Baptist | 2 2.00 96.00
UCC | 2 2.00 98.00
Unitarian Universalist | 1 1.00 99.00
United Methodist | 1 1.00 100.00
----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------
Total | 100 100.00


"International Church of the Foursquare" :wtf:

Th0r S1mpson
05-23-08, 11:27 AM
"International Church of the Foursquare" :wtf:
It's not about the ball game. ;)

http://www.foursquarechurch.org/

I attended a foursquare church for years when I lived in Seattle. The pastor was fantastic. :up:

It is evangelical and very outreach and missions-based.

wendersfan
05-23-08, 11:29 AM
I was happy to see the UUC represented. :)

classicman2
05-23-08, 11:32 AM
I wonder by Church of God do they mean Holiness or the Armstrong Church of God?

When I was a young whippernapper we used to call the Holiness - Holy Rollers. You'll are too young to remember that.

Some of us silly boys use to go to their tent reviivals and make fun of them. I felt bad about that later.

I don't know what this has to do with the thread subject, but I thought...................

wendersfan
05-23-08, 11:38 AM
I wonder by Church of God do they mean Holiness or the Armstrong Church of God?That's Jon Tester, and wiki gives his denomination as Church of God (Anderson). :shrug:

Even more trivia - there eight states in which both Senators share the same faith:

Alabama (Methodist)
California (Jewish)
Louisiana (Catholic)
Massachusetts (Catholic)
North Carolina (Methodist)
Utah (LDS)
Wisconsin (Jewish)
Wyoming (Presbyterian)

Venusian
05-23-08, 11:41 AM
what's the foot note for the 2nd baptist?

people still call holiness holy rollers

Venusian
05-23-08, 11:42 AM
I suspect the "Methodist" are really UMC

wendersfan
05-23-08, 11:43 AM
what's the foot note for the 2nd baptist?That McCain claims to be a Baptist, but was identified as an Episcopalian for a long time. I just copied and pasted the data and didn't really do any "cleaning" or I would have edited out the footnote.

wendersfan
05-23-08, 11:48 AM
It's interesting that 25% of the Senate is Catholic, which is roughly the percentage of the US population that's Catholic, while 13% of the Senate is Jewish and Jews account for a little more than 1% of the population, and 5% is LDS, while there are about as many Mormons in the US as Jews. My own church, even with one Senator representing it, is over-represented as well.

Atheists are the big losers, as is to be expected.

classicman2
05-23-08, 12:14 PM
They're ungodly - they're supposed to be the losers. :)

Unitarians - do any, some, or all believe in God?

btw: To our esteemed moderator - can we captialize Baptist, please?

Red Dog
05-23-08, 12:24 PM
It's interesting that 25% of the Senate is Catholic, which is roughly the percentage of the US population that's Catholic, while 13% of the Senate is Jewish and Jews account for a little more than 1% of the population, and 5% is LDS, while there are about as many Mormons in the US as Jews. My own church, even with one Senator representing it, is over-represented as well.

Atheists are the big losers, as is to be expected.


Yes, but how many are closet atheists. :)

wendersfan
05-23-08, 12:24 PM
Unitarians - do any, some, or all believe in God?
I certainly do.
btw: To our esteemed moderator - can we captialize Baptist, please?Sorry, my shift key doesn't work right all the time.

Venusian
05-23-08, 01:03 PM
So we have Christian, Protestant and Evangelical Christian as separate categories. seems like a lot of repeats

Th0r S1mpson
05-23-08, 01:14 PM
So we have Christian, Protestant and Evangelical Christian as separate categories. seems like a lot of repeats
And some of the denominations fall into those categories as well.

JasonF
05-23-08, 01:33 PM
Atheists are the big losers, as is to be expected.

Non-Mod Note: Calling people with a particular belief system "big losers" is against Forum rules.

kvrdave
05-23-08, 01:36 PM
So we have Christian, Protestant and Evangelical Christian as separate categories. seems like a lot of repeats

Kvrdavidians are unrepresented there. But we are use to persecution. :grunt:


As to the original topic, is this really any different than every politician claiming they have no intention of running, then end up running?

wendersfan
05-23-08, 01:37 PM
Non-Mod Note: Calling people with a particular belief system "big losers" is against Forum rules.I meant in a purely statistical way.

You butt.

MartinBlank
05-23-08, 01:45 PM
Atheists are the big losers, as is to be expected.
Apparently, so are Scientologists :D

JasonF
05-23-08, 04:59 PM
Don't forget <strike>miscellaneous</strike> Hinduism (or any other religion with its origins east of Jerusalem).

VinVega
05-23-08, 08:37 PM
As to the original topic, is this really any different than every politician claiming they have no intention of running, then end up running?
I think in this instance, that is the root of his statement. It's no big deal.

His age (whether the Dems make it an issue or not) is a real issue that will be in the minds of voters this year. How important it will be to them is the question.

classicman2
05-24-08, 06:36 AM
He now has released 1,000 pages of his medical reports.

He has the afflctions that many of the us elderly suffer: hypertension, high cloresterol, (sp?) arthritis. etc. - all under control through medication.

His skin cancer is also dormant at this time.

He has a wife that reported over 6 million dollars in income in 2006.

Things ain't too bad for John. ;)

classicman2
05-24-08, 06:58 AM
Obama also released his medical records.

He seems to be in perfect health with the exception of the affliction that a number of politicians have - The Ananias Syndrome.

In the case of Obama, however, it's particularly acute.


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