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Old 02-10-08 | 01:27 AM
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I watched Kill Bill Vol. 1 tonight...

It's the first time I've watched since having seen The Departed.

And people say Tarantino rips-off Scorsese...

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Not to dog on Scorsese, I just thought it was weird/cool that they happened to use the same song during fight sequences.

I think both Scorsese and Tarantino are great at melding picture and sound. Any other directors that can pull it off as well?
Old 02-10-08 | 01:38 AM
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I always thought Tarantino's use of music was somewhat cartoonish. But that may be because his movies are cartoonish. I don't mean that in a bad way.

In a Scorcese movie, the use of popular music seems to make the action seem commonplace. In other words, it brings the viewer more completely into what's going on on the screen.

They both use music to complement their movies, even though, in my mind, they make movies in a completely different style. That said, I'm not sure of any other directors who use music so glaringly. That is to say, other directors who use music that can steal the scene rather than provide a backdrop to the action. I don't prefer the style, but it does work on a gut level, though more in Scorcese than in Tarantino.
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OMG, Someone else used a same song as another director! Who would have thunk it?
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Both of the directors mentioned use songs more as score rather than as source music, unlike someone like Spielberg, who primarily relies on a composer (John Williams) to provide the emotion or the drive for a scene. Personally, using songs like that can be a little bit jarring, but I understand the approach and intent. It took me a while to get used to the way music was used by these guys (and directors like them); at first it seemed too hyperactive and coming from a mind too attention-deficit to stick with one thing for more than 2 minutes. But after a while I understood that they were approaching music from a more personal, internal standpoint, rather than something that necessarily appeals to the majority of the audience all at once. It's easy enough to pick a song that everyone associates with a certain time period or a certain emotion (see: Forrest Gump), but to pick something that means something to them at that moment and to hopefully make others recognize that is a special talent.
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
OMG, Someone else used a same song as another director! Who would have thunk it?
Harharhar. No, I just found it interesting because Tarantino is regularly compared to Scorsese both of them being "film geeks". Same song in a similar scene, just that.

That and I figured that someone on the film crew would have noticed that the bit had already been done...."Simpsons did it!!".

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Old 02-10-08 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinBlank
Harharhar. No, I just found it interesting because Tarantino is regularly compared to Scorsese both of them being "film geeks". Same song in a similar scene, just that.

That and I figured that someone on the film crew would have noticed that the bit had already been done...."Simpsons did it!!".

you do realize when they're filming a scene the soundtrack isn't playing through a PA right?
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But during the editing process I assume it is, right?
Old 02-10-08 | 02:06 PM
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Holy shit your right! I can't believe people would use the same song in two different movies. I wonder if its ever happened before and we just didn't catch it.
Old 02-10-08 | 03:34 PM
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I always thought people said Paul Thomas Anderson rips off Scorsese.
Old 02-10-08 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RyoHazuki
I can't believe people would use the same song in two different movies. I wonder if its ever happened before and we just didn't catch it.
Hell, Scorsese himself has used "Gimme Shelter" in "Goodfellas," "Casino" and "The Departed."
Old 02-10-08 | 06:38 PM
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Now that I think about it.... I've heard "Happy Birthday To You" sung in several movies during a birthday party scene. Damn copy cats.

But to answer your question....

Originally Posted by MartinBlank
I think both Scorsese and Tarantino are great at melding picture and sound. Any other directors that can pull it off as well?
I really enjoyed the song selections in Forrest Gump. Not that Ziemekis does that in all his movies, though. I thought each song not only evoked the time period (give or take a few years) but added to the narrative.
Old 02-10-08 | 08:04 PM
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Awesome filmmakers ripping off other awesome filmmakers. Cruel cruel world!

I've got no problem with anyone being inspired by (or 'ripping off') anyone's material - unless it sucks. Then the material sucks anyways, and I don't like it.

Same goes for stand up comedians.
Old 02-11-08 | 09:05 AM
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Hell, Scorsese himself has used "Gimme Shelter" in "Goodfellas," "Casino" and "The Departed."

I love the song...but Scorsese has over used it. Whenever i see one of his movies now i expect to hear it. Hell i was surprised when he didn't use it in The Aviator, Gangs of New York, Age of Innocence and Kundun (Can just picture the Dali Lama popping a cap in someone with this blaring in the background).
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