I am getting back into Video Games, a couple of questions
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I am getting back into Video Games, a couple of questions
I have been playing video games my whole life, but took a breather from them for the past 3-4 years, so I am not up to speed on the PS3, XBox360, WII generation platforms. I am trying to decide which system to get:
-Has this generation of platform games gotten away from the 'arcade' type games that were very popular on '16-bit which were side scrolling games, and on the 32/64-bit which were 3-D type solving games. I guess I am asking are there games out there anymore that are good such that resemble games like Mario, DonkeyKong Country, Sonic, Crash Bandicoot? Or are those games of the past and really not popular anymore?
-Are most games now so massive that solving them shouldn't even be a goal anymore, as you need strategy guides, etc to really solve. Or am I just being too extreme on how I am perceiving them?
-I am leaning towards a PS3 cause that has a BluRay player, and it looks like that is going to be the winner of the Format-War. Yet from what I heard, the XBox360 has better games?
-Games I like: Anything EA Sports (Madden, NHL, TigerWoods, FIFA),
-Which is the best racing game out on the market?
-Any good Sonic, Mario-type games out there ?
-Which is the best Star Wars game on the market?
I know this is long, but it is weird how I haven't followed this stuff for a couple of years, and I am totally lost on the video game market.
Thanks.
-Has this generation of platform games gotten away from the 'arcade' type games that were very popular on '16-bit which were side scrolling games, and on the 32/64-bit which were 3-D type solving games. I guess I am asking are there games out there anymore that are good such that resemble games like Mario, DonkeyKong Country, Sonic, Crash Bandicoot? Or are those games of the past and really not popular anymore?
-Are most games now so massive that solving them shouldn't even be a goal anymore, as you need strategy guides, etc to really solve. Or am I just being too extreme on how I am perceiving them?
-I am leaning towards a PS3 cause that has a BluRay player, and it looks like that is going to be the winner of the Format-War. Yet from what I heard, the XBox360 has better games?
-Games I like: Anything EA Sports (Madden, NHL, TigerWoods, FIFA),
-Which is the best racing game out on the market?
-Any good Sonic, Mario-type games out there ?
-Which is the best Star Wars game on the market?
I know this is long, but it is weird how I haven't followed this stuff for a couple of years, and I am totally lost on the video game market.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by coli
Has this generation of platform games gotten away from the 'arcade' type games that were very popular on '16-bit which were side scrolling games, and on the 32/64-bit which were 3-D type solving games. I guess I am asking are there games out there anymore that are good such that resemble games like Mario, DonkeyKong Country, Sonic, Crash Bandicoot? Or are those games of the past and really not popular anymore?
Personally, I feel that platform games are going the way of the old point-n-click adventure games. The general audience doesn't care about platformers anymore, and I can't really think of many platform games released in the last few years. The Wii has some like the latest Mario game, but I can't think of any on the 360 or PS3. I think the pure platform genre is dying and being replaced by platform-hybrids (games like Prince of Persia, Assassin's Creed, Ninja Gaiden, etc).
Are most games now so massive that solving them shouldn't even be a goal anymore, as you need strategy guides, etc to really solve. Or am I just being too extreme on how I am perceiving them?
I am leaning towards a PS3 cause that has a BluRay player, and it looks like that is going to be the winner of the Format-War. Yet from what I heard, the XBox360 has better games?
-Games I like: Anything EA Sports (Madden, NHL, TigerWoods, FIFA),
-Which is the best racing game out on the market?
-Any good Sonic, Mario-type games out there ?
-Which is the best Star Wars game on the market?
-Which is the best racing game out on the market?
-Any good Sonic, Mario-type games out there ?
-Which is the best Star Wars game on the market?
The best Star Wars game is bar-none Knights of the Old Republic. It was released on the original Xbox, but it backwards compatible with the 360 I believe. I am not sure though as I own the PC port. It is an RPG that uses the D&D/d20 ruleset, so it might be a little complex if you aren't familiar with D&D.
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Originally Posted by coli
I have been playing video games my whole life, but took a breather from them for the past 3-4 years, so I am not up to speed on the PS3, XBox360, WII generation platforms. I am trying to decide which system to get:
-Has this generation of platform games gotten away from the 'arcade' type games that were very popular on '16-bit which were side scrolling games, and on the 32/64-bit which were 3-D type solving games. I guess I am asking are there games out there anymore that are good such that resemble games like Mario, DonkeyKong Country, Sonic, Crash Bandicoot? Or are those games of the past and really not popular anymore?
-Has this generation of platform games gotten away from the 'arcade' type games that were very popular on '16-bit which were side scrolling games, and on the 32/64-bit which were 3-D type solving games. I guess I am asking are there games out there anymore that are good such that resemble games like Mario, DonkeyKong Country, Sonic, Crash Bandicoot? Or are those games of the past and really not popular anymore?
Originally Posted by coli
-Are most games now so massive that solving them shouldn't even be a goal anymore, as you need strategy guides, etc to really solve. Or am I just being too extreme on how I am perceiving them?
Originally Posted by coli
-I am leaning towards a PS3 cause that has a BluRay player, and it looks like that is going to be the winner of the Format-War. Yet from what I heard, the XBox360 has better games?
Originally Posted by coli
-Games I like: Anything EA Sports (Madden, NHL, TigerWoods, FIFA),
-Which is the best racing game out on the market?
-Any good Sonic, Mario-type games out there ?
-Which is the best Star Wars game on the market?
-Which is the best racing game out on the market?
-Any good Sonic, Mario-type games out there ?
-Which is the best Star Wars game on the market?
- Racing games are generally multiplatform as well, although GranTourismo is still a heavy hitter for Sony, but MS's Forza and Project Gotham are no slouch.
- the best Sonic is Sonic Rush on DS and of course Mario is only on Nintendo Wii. Should be noted that Mario Galaxy was a Game of the Year contender this year.
- Star Wars: Force Unleashed is due out later this year and has some great positive buzz swirling about it.
Lastly, if you missed out last gen, I'd factor in backwards compatibility for each. Any games you missed out on? Halo? GTA? Zelda: Wind Waker? etc.
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The EA Sports games, and all sports games in general have been better on the 360 thus far. I played a few on a friends PS3, and they just don't stack up.
Also - as far as platformers and Star Wars go, you can't go wrong with Lego Star Wars, in any of it's incarnations. While it's not the experience that Knights of the Old Republic was, it's just damn fun! It's easy to just pick up and play, it's platforming style is something you'll like, and it's, well, Star Wars. I'm going through the newest one now, the Complete Saga, on the 360 and I love it. I played the original one on the XBOX (the new trilogy), and then there's also part II (The original Trilogy). But the New one combines both games and adds features. There's something fun about fighting Darth Maul with Vader for some reason.
Also - as far as platformers and Star Wars go, you can't go wrong with Lego Star Wars, in any of it's incarnations. While it's not the experience that Knights of the Old Republic was, it's just damn fun! It's easy to just pick up and play, it's platforming style is something you'll like, and it's, well, Star Wars. I'm going through the newest one now, the Complete Saga, on the 360 and I love it. I played the original one on the XBOX (the new trilogy), and then there's also part II (The original Trilogy). But the New one combines both games and adds features. There's something fun about fighting Darth Maul with Vader for some reason.
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I appreciate the feedback, keep em coming!
I forgot about 1st-person shooter games. I had a PS2, so I missed out on Halo.
Other then Halo, what are the other great 1st person shooter games?
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Any games you missed out on? Halo? GTA? Zelda: Wind Waker? etc.
Other then Halo, what are the other great 1st person shooter games?
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I would agree that the 360 generally has the better multi-platform games. All the EA sports games ran smoother (60 fps vs 30 fps) on the 360. Although, maybe the 09 games.
As for platformers....not sure about those. I really enjoyed Kameo, Ratchet & Clank is a visually stunning game also.
As for "solving" a game, the 360 has achievements, which rewards you for things you did....mini-goals basically. It sounded lame at first, but I actually enjoy it....not as much as some though
I will say the PS3 is a nice system, the Blu-Ray player is top-notch, but the 360 is my gaming system of choice. The Wii is also nice, but it's more gimmicky.
As for platformers....not sure about those. I really enjoyed Kameo, Ratchet & Clank is a visually stunning game also.
As for "solving" a game, the 360 has achievements, which rewards you for things you did....mini-goals basically. It sounded lame at first, but I actually enjoy it....not as much as some though
I will say the PS3 is a nice system, the Blu-Ray player is top-notch, but the 360 is my gaming system of choice. The Wii is also nice, but it's more gimmicky.
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if you want it for gaming, HANDS DOWN, the xbox 360... If you want more for movies, the PS3... I have had a Ps3 since launch, and outside of Resistence : FOM, i havent played another game. I havent played any game on my PS3 in probably 10months...
I play my xbox 360 pretty much every day, cause the games are better, more of my friends are on it, and its just better for gaming... I also have a Wii, but hardly ever play it
I play my xbox 360 pretty much every day, cause the games are better, more of my friends are on it, and its just better for gaming... I also have a Wii, but hardly ever play it
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
The 360 currently has the best lineup. Not to mention the largest library. Both of those mean you can find great games cheap for the system now. Sony has a few great games out and this year appears rosy, but the way you have to look at it is, how often are you going to watch a BD disc? How often are you going to game? Whichever is more, that is your system.
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Another question, why PS3 doing so bad, as I have read it has about 15% of the market. It sounds like they rushed the PS3 out?
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Originally Posted by coli
Another question, why PS3 doing so bad, as I have read it has about 15% of the market. It sounds like they rushed the PS3 out?
What hurt the PS3 is the price tag and lack of games. The PS3 initially was $600, which is far more than the average joe is willing to spend on a "video game machine". The lack of games is also really hurting. There are only a handful of exclusive titles. The reason the PS2 was so successful was because it had a HUGE game library. The PS3 (so far) is the opposite.
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360 has kameo and will be getting banjo kazooie 3 (platform wise)
ps3 - ratchet & clank (its a great game, but for the time being not worth buying a system for)
wii - mario (good platform game, plus nintendo will have more to come. zelda isnt really a platform game but is really fun)
id say cuz you like sports aswell. get a xbox360 then if you want anything after that choose.
ps3 - ratchet & clank (its a great game, but for the time being not worth buying a system for)
wii - mario (good platform game, plus nintendo will have more to come. zelda isnt really a platform game but is really fun)
id say cuz you like sports aswell. get a xbox360 then if you want anything after that choose.
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If you intend to play games with your children and/or wife/SO. Get the Wii, like others have said, It has Mario, which is one of the last of a dying breed of platformers.
Get a Blu Ray machine for your blu ray dvds.
Xbox360 for your sporting game needs.
Get a Blu Ray machine for your blu ray dvds.
Xbox360 for your sporting game needs.
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Originally Posted by JasonF
Would people consider the Simpsons Game and Lego Star Wars to be platformers? Both of those games are lots of fun.
As for replay value, achievements offer that in spades on every title. It should be noted that not everything is worth chasing after though, [cough]Dead Rising's 7-day survivor[/cough], but generally there is something worth trying for in every game.
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Originally Posted by coli
-Games I like: Anything EA Sports (Madden, NHL, TigerWoods, FIFA),
-Which is the best racing game out on the market?
-Any good Sonic, Mario-type games out there ?
-Which is the best Star Wars game on the market?
-Which is the best racing game out on the market?
-Any good Sonic, Mario-type games out there ?
-Which is the best Star Wars game on the market?
Best racing game... I like Burnout series. I've played PGR3, NASCAR 08, Forza 2, and MotoGP 07 - NASCAR 08 is fun, but full of bug (see above about EA), PGR3 is somewhat boring and annoying (cone game, wtf?), Forza 2 is NOT SIM racing as everyone claimed and the gameplay is completely boring and no challenge there. Burnout is only one I enjoyed the most.
Star Wars game... I like KOTOR very much.
The best FPS out there is probably Call of Duty 4, through I haven't played other FPS which supposely better than COD4.
There's plentiful games in Xbox Live! Market that you can play.
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Originally Posted by coli
-Has this generation of platform games gotten away from the 'arcade' type games that were very popular on '16-bit which were side scrolling games, and on the 32/64-bit which were 3-D type solving games. I guess I am asking are there games out there anymore that are good such that resemble games like Mario, DonkeyKong Country, Sonic, Crash Bandicoot? Or are those games of the past and really not popular anymore?
-Are most games now so massive that solving them shouldn't even be a goal anymore, as you need strategy guides, etc to really solve. Or am I just being too extreme on how I am perceiving them?
-I am leaning towards a PS3 cause that has a BluRay player, and it looks like that is going to be the winner of the Format-War. Yet from what I heard, the XBox360 has better games?
-Games I like: Anything EA Sports (Madden, NHL, TigerWoods, FIFA),
-Which is the best racing game out on the market?
-Any good Sonic, Mario-type games out there ?
-Which is the best Star Wars game on the market?
-Which is the best racing game out on the market?
-Any good Sonic, Mario-type games out there ?
-Which is the best Star Wars game on the market?
Best racing game,
Sim-style/Not Sim/Whatever it is: Forza 2 (X360) (best looking: GT5: Prologue (PS3), gameplay is middle of the road, never realized how much not having damage distracted me)
Arcade: Burnout/Revenge or Paradise (haven't played, great reviews, fans of older games aren't quite used to it yet though).
Sonic/Mario - Sonic: Secret Rings (Wii), Mario Galaxy (Best since SMB3) (Wii), Psychonauts (Xbox/BC with X360) and Kameo (X360), Ratchet and Clank (PS3)
Current best Star Wars game - Don't laugh, Lego Starwars: The Complete Saga and Knights of the Old Republic (Xbox)
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360 has my vote for best all around system right now, although you still need to be cautious about the hardware problems and being without your system for a month. There should be something on there for all your wants, albeit platformers are the weak point.
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As others mentioned, 360 for Sports, FPS, larger library, Xbox Live, as well as BioShock, Mass Effect, etc.
Wii for playing with casual gamers, Nintendo franchises, Virtual Console will have all the platformers you could ever want, etc.
And might I mention the Nintendo DS if you really are wanting platformers and favorites from the past, as well as some new goodness. Get 2 and go multiplayer for less than most of the other consoles.
Can't speak to the PS3 as I don't own one.
Wii for playing with casual gamers, Nintendo franchises, Virtual Console will have all the platformers you could ever want, etc.
And might I mention the Nintendo DS if you really are wanting platformers and favorites from the past, as well as some new goodness. Get 2 and go multiplayer for less than most of the other consoles.
Can't speak to the PS3 as I don't own one.
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^^^^yea, i forgot about the simpson game. i beat it 100% (collected everything) its a really fun game especially if you like simpsons.
lego - they are suppose to be making a batman one aswell
lego - they are suppose to be making a batman one aswell
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Originally Posted by RichC2
But the X360 is largely dominated with First Person Shooters.
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One great thing about the 360 is the fantastic Xbox Live service. $50 or less gets you 13 months of:
- Demos of just about everything. I checked the other day and there were like 120 demos of retail games, and 110 XBLA arcade games, which are often great.
- Chatting (voice only or video) with friends while you play games, or anything else on the 360. Last night, I was playing Call of Duty 4, chatting with my friend in Mexico, and downloading demos in the background. No hiccups at all.
- Multiplayer games, content download, leaderboards. Almost every game has some online component. I'm not a big gamer, and don't play multi-player very often, but XBox Live and XBLA is the bees knees.
- Demos of just about everything. I checked the other day and there were like 120 demos of retail games, and 110 XBLA arcade games, which are often great.
- Chatting (voice only or video) with friends while you play games, or anything else on the 360. Last night, I was playing Call of Duty 4, chatting with my friend in Mexico, and downloading demos in the background. No hiccups at all.
- Multiplayer games, content download, leaderboards. Almost every game has some online component. I'm not a big gamer, and don't play multi-player very often, but XBox Live and XBLA is the bees knees.
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I know I know, just most "big" titles seem to fit in the genre.
Sports/Racing, First/3rd Person Shooter
Sports/Racing, First/3rd Person Shooter
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Originally Posted by RichC2
I know I know, just most "big" titles seem to fit in the genre.
Sports/Racing, First/3rd Person Shooter
Sports/Racing, First/3rd Person Shooter
That doesn't make the categories any bigger, in absolute numbers of titles released, though. It just seems that way.
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Just get all three systems and you're set...
If not, get the Wii, b/c it's the cheapest. It got tons of games, and Mario is Nintendo exclusive, so you know what that means.
Get the X360 if you want jump into the current gen of games, a lot games are cheap, since they were released for a while now. However, if you want to play on-line, pay up. Or do what i do... stack up those 48 hours cards and use them whenever you want to play on-line (some games come with them). So, technically, i'm operating on the "free" principle. If you're working and all, i don't think you can game that much...
Get the PS3 if multi-media is your thing (the X360 can do this fine too, but for HD stuffs, you have to buy the HD-DVD add-on and no Blu-ray options at the moment). For me, the #1 reason to get the PS3 is the AVCHD playback function (e.g. your kid's first steps in HD). The games are coming, 2008 is the PS3 year, with MSG 4, FF XIII and Resistance 2, you can't go wrong. Also, on-line play is free, with Resistance 2, i wonder Sony gonna change the policy....
If not, get the Wii, b/c it's the cheapest. It got tons of games, and Mario is Nintendo exclusive, so you know what that means.
Get the X360 if you want jump into the current gen of games, a lot games are cheap, since they were released for a while now. However, if you want to play on-line, pay up. Or do what i do... stack up those 48 hours cards and use them whenever you want to play on-line (some games come with them). So, technically, i'm operating on the "free" principle. If you're working and all, i don't think you can game that much...
Get the PS3 if multi-media is your thing (the X360 can do this fine too, but for HD stuffs, you have to buy the HD-DVD add-on and no Blu-ray options at the moment). For me, the #1 reason to get the PS3 is the AVCHD playback function (e.g. your kid's first steps in HD). The games are coming, 2008 is the PS3 year, with MSG 4, FF XIII and Resistance 2, you can't go wrong. Also, on-line play is free, with Resistance 2, i wonder Sony gonna change the policy....
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Originally Posted by Ocelot
i wonder Sony gonna change the policy....