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chase3001
07-25-07, 12:40 AM
Anybody else watch it?

I was full of doubt that this show would be in any way interesting, but after watching the pilot, I can safely say I am intrigued.

Glau seemed miscast, but once she falls into her emotionless River-esque character she seemed more in place.

DJariya
07-25-07, 12:50 AM
I heard that the original pilot is being fixed to:

Tone down a violent shooting at a high school.....I guess they are being sensitive to the West Virginia incident.

Since FOX only ordered 13 episodes and this is airing in January...Do you think they would order 9 more episodes if the ratings are good? I would assume they could potentially finish shooting all 13 episodes by late fall or early winter.

hdtv00
07-25-07, 01:18 AM
I wasn't that impressed myself. But I'd still give it a try.

critterdvd
07-25-07, 03:04 AM
If the show gets the ratings then i'm sure the back 9 will come. If the show starts in January that means they have 6 months before season-finale time, which would translate into 24 weekly blocks, so there is room.

Ayre
07-25-07, 07:09 AM
The first half was kind of a Roger Corman tribute to T2.

The second half was a lot more fun and original, but flat and emotionless. I found myself rooting for the robots. Didn't care for the leads and Lena Headey's accent slipped through quite often.

I see Chronicles as this years Jericho. Potential squandered by weak writing. It's only a pilot, so I give it C+.

Chew
07-25-07, 07:50 AM
I can't say I thought any of the casting was good, especially Glau.

I know we can't get T2 and T3 Terminators on a TV budget, but the occasional flash of silver on somebody's face will get boring quick knowing what else is out there.

Gunde
07-25-07, 10:22 AM
I was rather impressed. Thought it was cool.
And Lena Headey is fucking HOT!

wmansir
07-25-07, 10:34 AM
I'm mixed on this one. There was some cool stuff, but then you could tell the budget hurt it at points. The sad part is it was because they were trying to do too much. They should look back to the original and learn that often less is more.

I don't think the casting was that bad, although I agree Glau was the weakest. I wonder if they will explain that she has a switch to go from "playing human" to "I.AM.A.ROBOT", maybe her real girl emulation software uses too much energy to be engaged full time.

dan30oly
07-25-07, 10:52 AM
How did I miss this? When was it on?

Michael Corvin
07-25-07, 11:27 AM
welcome to <s>illegal internet download</s> TV Talk.

dan30oly
07-25-07, 12:09 PM
ahhh...ok.

Is there a legal network broadcast date yet?

DJariya
07-25-07, 02:05 PM
January 2008

filmerp
07-25-07, 02:40 PM
Not as downright terrible as I had expected from the trailers. The new baddie seemed pretty badass (though I didn't see why he couldn't have hidden the gun in a lunch pail), and the twist in the vault was pretty intriguing. They can't possibly be expected to have a "Terminator-of-the-week" for long, so I'll still tune in to see what kind of story arc they've conjured.

C-Mart
07-25-07, 02:59 PM
When was that on?!? Are they going to repeat it?!? I figured they would promote the hell out of it, and at a minimum show a commercial or two during Hell's Kitchen or any other FOX show for that matter.

Michael Corvin
07-25-07, 03:14 PM
When was that on?!? Are they going to repeat it?!? I figured they would promote the hell out of it, and at a minimum show a commercial or two during Hell's Kitchen or any other FOX show for that matter.

erm... see post #10.

hdtv00
07-25-07, 08:28 PM
We like on the show took a time jump to the future, watched it then came back. Better hurry and talk before that one a hole gets in here and starts to complain. Meanwhile I cd it all the time here and music section. But its ok until Dignam complains cause he's so cool.

Ayre
07-25-07, 10:15 PM
We like on the show took a time jump to the future, watched it then came back. Better hurry and talk before that one a hole gets in here and starts to complain. Meanwhile I cd it all the time here and music section. But its ok until Dignam complains cause he's so cool.
QFT .... Wait I haven't a clue what you just said.

http://www.babblefish.com/babblefish/

treszoks
07-25-07, 10:37 PM
It was "meh". Better than the Reaper pilot but that isn't saying much.

mrhan
07-26-07, 11:42 PM
I was kind of confused by the ending.

If they jumped to 2007 what year does T3 take place? I haven't seen it in awhile and I don't have the DVD on hand so I can't reference it. Do they eventually go back after the series ends to 1999? Also, when was John born? On the computer screen it states that Sarah is 33 in 1999. How old was she when John was born? I'm assuming he's 14 in the series since they referred to the events in T2 as 2 years before and I'm almost sure they said he was 12. It's been so long since I saw any of the movies; I'm so confused.

CKMorpheus
07-27-07, 12:19 AM
I enjoyed it and will definitely tune in a few more times to see the direction it could take.

DJariya
07-27-07, 12:33 AM
I was kind of confused by the ending.

If they jumped to 2007 what year does T3 take place? I haven't seen it in awhile and I don't have the DVD on hand so I can't reference it. Do they eventually go back after the series ends to 1999? Also, when was John born? On the computer screen it states that Sarah is 33 in 1999. How old was she when John was born? I'm assuming he's 14 in the series since they referred to the events in T2 as 2 years before and I'm almost sure they said he was 12. It's been so long since I saw any of the movies; I'm so confused.

Interesting points you brought up:

Since Terminator 1 took place in 1984, that would make Sarah 18 when she met Reese an eventually had John.

mrhan
07-27-07, 01:28 AM
Interesting points you brought up:

Since Terminator 1 took place in 1984, that would make Sarah 18 when she met Reese an eventually had John.


I'm not sure but I think there was a thread here a long time ago that explained it all. I did a search and came up with nothing.

chase3001
07-27-07, 02:43 AM
I was kind of confused by the ending.

If they jumped to 2007 what year does T3 take place? I haven't seen it in awhile and I don't have the DVD on hand so I can't reference it. Do they eventually go back after the series ends to 1999? Also, when was John born? On the computer screen it states that Sarah is 33 in 1999. How old was she when John was born? I'm assuming he's 14 in the series since they referred to the events in T2 as 2 years before and I'm almost sure they said he was 12. It's been so long since I saw any of the movies; I'm so confused.

From what I recall:

The creators of the show have said that in their universe T3 never happened.

Orbi-Wan Techno
07-27-07, 08:59 AM
I believe that as with the comics and the books, there are several timelines based on the characters actions.

I liked the pilot episode.... was disappointed that it wasn't in 16x9, though.

DJariya
07-27-07, 01:17 PM
I just finished watching it and I kind of feel a little guilty watching it 6 months early, but from what I read, FOX is having the producers make some revisions and certain scenes are being re-shot. So, this pilot in it's current incarnation won't be the one airing in January and I will gladly watch it again. Overall, I really liked it. The pilot almost felt like a "Mini" Terminator movie. I think Lena Headey is quite good as Sarah and I also like Summer Glau as the good Terminator. I'm curious to see the direction this goes after the pilot.

My concern is the timeslot....It's going to face a humongous hurdle being on Sunday's at 9pm going against Cold Case, Football and Desperate Housewives. As of right now, it's going to finish 4th in the timeslot for sure. I would prefer seeing this show on Monday's following Prison Break or maybe launch it after House on Tuesday's to help build an audience.

wmansir
07-27-07, 01:38 PM
I'm not a big fan of Sunday night either, but depending on when they start this it might not see any football competition except for the superbowl. And the football audience seems to be right in their target demo, so they might not do to bad.

Michael Ballack
07-27-07, 08:35 PM
Don't try to talk timelines and ages when talking about The Terminator movies, even the first 2 Cameron movies. Not a lot of continuity when it comes to ages and dates. ;)

Patman
07-27-07, 10:48 PM
It was average, and somehow I can't really think that a show devoted to Sarah Connors' paranoia is going to last more than a dozen episodes. The episode felt like a compressed verison of half of T2, but with a smaller budget and an average cast.

DarthMarino
07-28-07, 09:04 PM
The new baddie seemed pretty badass (though I didn't see why he couldn't have hidden the gun in a lunch pail).

Actually this was one of the cool things. He brought the gun back through time with him but since only living tissue can go through, he had to store it inside his endo skeleton.

The episode was actually better than I thought it would be. Could certainly be better but as a huge fan of the series I was pretty happy. I would have preferred if it stuck with the storyline in Terminator 3 but I'll just accept it as it's own tangent from the second film.

Original Desmond
07-29-07, 05:18 AM
I wasn't blown away with this pilot, the characters haven't grabbed me yet but i guess it will take awhile to get used to a non linda hamilton sarah connor.

I do have a problem with these terminators being less advanced that the T-1000 in T2 which was 2 years ago.

I think it has potential and is still better than a lot of other action sci fi out there

Dead
07-30-07, 03:56 PM
Why is it that mods here do not allow talk of bootlegging movies/DVD/music, but this is acceptable?

Any discussion of bootlegging *anything* will be closed or deleted. It is not necessarily improper to discuss content simply because not everyone has access to it though.

hdtv00
07-30-07, 04:21 PM
Which is why it was wrong to lock the weeds thread earlier. It's not our fault some of us can get it legit knowing people and some goof sent someone a PM how he downloaded it. But anyway...what's next don't allow someone in a different time zone not to comment because they should'nt have been able to watch it yet lol.

Michael Corvin
07-30-07, 06:32 PM
Any discussion of bootlegging *anything* will be closed or deleted. It is not necessarily improper to discuss content simply because not everyone has access to it though.

Outside of one or two people here that may get a legitimate advance copy, it is clear that there is no other legal means to acquire these shows this far in advance.

I don't get why it is still open either, but I'm not going to be the one to rain on everyone's parade. Enjoy it. Just means you have to wait longer for episode 2 than everyone else. ;)

Dead
07-31-07, 08:58 AM
Outside of one or two people here that may get a legitimate advance copy, it is clear that there is no other legal means to acquire these shows this far in advance.

I don't get why it is still open either, but I'm not going to be the one to rain on everyone's parade. Enjoy it. Just means you have to wait longer for episode 2 than everyone else. ;)


I think that you answered your own question. If even one or two can get it legally, or if people otherwise want to speculate, then it seems reasonable to allow it as long as there isn't anything promoting illegal activity.

Original Desmond
07-31-07, 08:07 PM
Can we leave the morality discussion to a separate thread ? let's just talk about the damm show!

That's what we want and that is what the studios want (for people to talk about their new shows)

Rogue588
07-31-07, 10:47 PM
As I asked in an earlier post (that for some reason disappeared), since they've stated that T3 didn't take place in "their" universe, are we only dealing with T-800s and T-1000s? And will a different person play the evil Terminator each week? Or will it be the same dude every week?

Patman
07-31-07, 11:25 PM
For now, it looks like T-800s, I think.

DarthMarino
08-01-07, 10:15 AM
As I asked in an earlier post (that for some reason disappeared), since they've stated that T3 didn't take place in "their" universe, are we only dealing with T-800s and T-1000s? And will a different person play the evil Terminator each week? Or will it be the same dude every week?

According to IGN's interview with the shows producer there won't be a Terminator every week (not counting Cameron).

http://tv.ign.com/articles/798/798086p1.html

Original Desmond
08-01-07, 11:36 AM
we don't want it to turn into freak of the week but i definitely want to see a few variations on the standard T-800 terminators.

Nuff
08-01-07, 03:39 PM
I'm not a big fan of Sunday night either, but depending on when they start this it might not see any football competition except for the superbowl. And the football audience seems to be right in their target demo, so they might not do to bad.

Actually this is not quite true. NFL games run in 3 time slots on Sundays, early afternoon (noonish start), late afternoon (3pmish start) and evening which is just 1 game and is in primetime. SCC would have to start at probably 10pm or so to avoid all football.

Chip718
08-01-07, 04:15 PM
Where are you guys viewing the piolt? I cant seem to find it. TIA

Dignam
08-01-07, 04:53 PM
Where are you guys viewing the piolt? I cant seem to find it. TIA
Read posts #9 and #10. It's ok to discuss your thoughts about any illegal downloads/torrents because everyone has to assume that everyone is in with the studio and has screener DVDs (even if they say "it's available in the usual places we can't mention ;) (even though that is mentioning them)"). Not that you have anything to worry about if you do openly admit to using torrents, though. The post will stay unless it's reported, and even then you're still ok. Your post may be edited, but the discussion will continue and there's absolutely no repercussions for talking about your illegal downloading habits.

I'd like to watch the episode, I've even offered to buy anyone and everyone's legit screener DVD for $20. Hell, I'll up it to $30. Anyone? :)

DJariya
08-01-07, 05:53 PM
Actually this is not quite true. NFL games run in 3 time slots on Sundays, early afternoon (noonish start), late afternoon (3pmish start) and evening which is just 1 game and is in primetime. SCC would have to start at probably 10pm or so to avoid all football.

All FOX affiliates have local news at 10pm, right now the SCC is scheduled to air Sunday's at 9pm. It's still going to face Sunday Night football on NBC as well as CBS and ABC's heavyweights.

Jason
08-01-07, 05:55 PM
Outside of one or two people here that may get a legitimate advance copy, it is clear that there is no other legal means to acquire these shows this far in advance.

Do people with advance copies or knowledge of television/movies have any kind of NDA, like software beta testers? I always thought there were media blackouts for reviewers, etc. until release dates we imminent.

chase3001
08-01-07, 08:41 PM
Read posts #9 and #10. It's ok to discuss your thoughts about any illegal downloads/torrents because everyone has to assume that everyone is in with the studio and has screener DVDs (even if they say "it's available in the usual places we can't mention ;) (even though that is mentioning them)"). Not that you have anything to worry about if you do openly admit to using torrents, though. The post will stay unless it's reported, and even then you're still ok. Your post may be edited, but the discussion will continue and there's absolutely no repercussions for talking about your illegal downloading habits.

I'd like to watch the episode, I've even offered to buy anyone and everyone's legit screener DVD for $20. Hell, I'll up it to $30. Anyone? :)

Alright, we get it! How many different ways can you say the same thing? The mod made a decision on it, so drop it.

wmansir
08-01-07, 08:50 PM
@jason
There's usually not a signed NDA, but in a "I'll scratch your back" arrangement most people with access will honor agreements about blackouts and/or withholding specific details in order to get future access. Sometimes there will be a list of specific details they don't want revealed such as events, characters and guest stars.


I'd like to watch the episode, I've even offered to buy anyone and everyone's legit screener DVD for $20. Hell, I'll up it to $30. Anyone? :)
Virtually all screeners are physically marked "Not for Sale or Rental" and most have even stricter terms in the video preamble, such as "Do not loan, rent, sell, give away or otherwise transfer to any third party for any reason."

Please stop encouraging copyright infringement.

BlackCapTen
08-01-07, 09:57 PM
I really enjoyed the show, better than I thought it would be. Hope the story is interesting and Fox gives it a chance.

Dignam
08-02-07, 12:33 AM
Alright, we get it! How many different ways can you say the same thing? The mod made a decision on it, so drop it.
I was just answering someone's question, relax.

chase3001
08-02-07, 03:29 AM
I was just answering someone's question, relax.

I didn't mean to sound so harsh. I just hoped we could get back to the discussion of the show. :)

chase3001
08-02-07, 03:31 AM
Just watched it again today, and I could have sworn that...

the chick who plays Dysons wife, is she the same actress who played her from T2? I tried checking IMDb, but she didn't seem to be listed under the credits.

wmansir
08-02-07, 11:45 AM
@Chase

The original actress has been playing Lt Van Buren on Law & Order for the last 15 years and I'm sure I would have recognized her if she were in the pilot. She looks very different now than she did in T2.

riley_dude
08-29-07, 11:37 PM
I was not impressed. Seems to be copying the moving and doesn't have anything original to say.
So what they are going to run each week from another Terminator?
Sounds like it will get old real quick.

CreamyGoodness
08-30-07, 04:32 AM
I was not impressed. Seems to be copying the moving and doesn't have anything original to say.
So what they are going to run each week from another Terminator?
Sounds like it will get old real quick.

Seems that way, but I'd probably give it a few episodes. The female terminator is HOT!

DJariya
08-30-07, 08:14 AM
Keep in mind that parts of this pilot are being re-shot...This is not the final version airing in January.

Agree about Summer Glau....She's a busy girl....She's a recurring character on The 4400 and had some guest spots on The Unit last season.

critterdvd
08-30-07, 04:33 PM
I thought they were just reshooting the intro because of the recent shootings?

Anyway the pilot was okay, but it really didn't have anything new to say - and it kinda screws up with the timeframe that the movies set up (unless they are ignoring the third installment)... I'll definately give it a go, but my hopes went down considerably...

mrpayroll
10-16-07, 09:54 PM
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=7469

[10.16.07 - 05:01 PM]
FOX TO PAIR 'SARAH CONNOR,' '24' COME JANUARY
By Brian Ford Sullivan (TFC)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

LOS ANGELES (thefutoncritic.com) -- Jack Bauer, meet Sarah Connor.

Josh Friedman, the creator of "The Sarah Connor Chronicles," has confirmed to the site the series will premiere Monday, January 14 at 8:00/7:00c on FOX. The newcomer will be bookended by the three-hour seventh season launch of "24" - Sunday, January 13 at 8:00/7:00c & 9:00/8:00c and Monday, January 14 at 9:00/8:00c (the show's regular time slot).

Said development will presumably send current Monday occupants "Prison Break" and "K-Ville" to hiatus or different time slots come January.

Friedman executive produces the Warner Bros. Television/C-2 Pictures-based hour alongside John Wirth, Mario Kassar and Andrew Vajna. Lena Headey, Thomas Dekker, Summer Glau and Richard T. Jones star.


Sounds like a good one two punch!

Chris

Geofferson
10-16-07, 11:15 PM
^ Agreed.

DJariya
10-16-07, 11:22 PM
That's a really good combo pairing Sarah Connor with 24. It would have gotten slautered staying on Sunday's at 9pm (It's initial timeslot)

K-Ville is DOA, so I'm not worried about that. Prison Break may have problems switching timeslots.

aynrandgirl
10-17-07, 11:13 AM
I heard that the original pilot is being fixed to:

Tone down a violent shooting at a high school.....I guess they are being sensitive to the West Virginia incident.


I just love faux "sensitivity". After all, we in the television audience are too stupid to tell the difference between fiction and reality.

aynrandgirl
10-17-07, 11:15 AM
That's a really good combo pairing Sarah Connor with 24. It would have gotten slaughtered staying on Sunday's at 9pm (It's initial timeslot)

K-Ville is DOA, so I'm not worried about that. Prison Break may have problems switching timeslots.
This kind of move appears to portend Prison Break's cancellation. A long hiatus followed by a timeslot change isn't exactly the way to keep your viewers.

DJariya
10-17-07, 01:55 PM
This kind of move appears to portend Prison Break's cancellation. A long hiatus followed by a timeslot change isn't exactly the way to keep your viewers.

But keep in mind though, In the 1st season of Prison Break, it went on hiatus in November and there was talk of it returning in June until FOX returned it to the schedule in March.

Long hiatuses are nothing new to Prison Break.

mrpayroll
10-17-07, 04:25 PM
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20071017fox01

TAKE BACK THE FUTURE

"TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES" PREMIERES MONDAY, JANUARY 14, ON FOX

Again facing relentless Terminators that will stop at nothing until John Connor, the future leader of the resistance, is eliminated, Sarah Connor stops running and starts fighting back against fate and the machines that are out for her son in the highly anticipated new series TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES premiering Monday, Jan. 14 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX.

Unfolding where the film "Terminator 2: Judgment Day" leaves off,
TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES finds SARAH (Lena Headey) and her 15-year-old son JOHN CONNOR (Thomas Dekker) alone in a dangerous world. As fugitives from the law, they are confronted by the ever-evolving technological enemy bent on destroying their lives, and perhaps the world. Balancing his inevitable fate as the possible savior of mankind and his current life as an ordinary high school student, John must learn what it takes to become the future leader of the people's resistance. His only friend is CAMERON (Summer Glau), an enigmatic and otherworldly student at his high school who soon proves to be much more than his confidante she assumes the role of Sarah and John's fearless protector. Together, Sarah, John and Summer, all extraordinary in their own right, attempt to become a "normal" family. On their trail are not only threats from the future, but an intelligent and tough FBI agent, JAMES ELLISON (Richard T. Jones), who just may become a powerful ally.

TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES represents an exciting reinvention of the "Terminator" film franchise, in which the strong and intrepid Sarah discovers that protecting her son and stopping the rise of the machines is more difficult than she had ever imagined.

Produced by C2 Pictures in association with Warner Bros. Television, TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES is executive-produced by Josh Friedman and John Wirth. James Middleton serves as consulting producer, while Toni Graphia serves as co-executive producer and Natalie Chaidez serves as a consulting producer for the series. The pilot was directed by David Nutter.

[EDITOR'S NOTE: PRISON BREAK will have its Fall Finale on Monday, Dec. 17. It will return to the FOX schedule in its regular time period Monday, April 14, 2008, and will air original episodes into June, along with 24, as previously announced.]


Spoiled just in case.

Chris

mikehunt
10-17-07, 09:03 PM
yeah, give a teenage guy a female anatomically correct cyborg that he can order around

DJariya
01-04-08, 10:28 AM
Just a headsup for anyone here who hasn't seen the pilot yet or can't wait until January 13th. It will be available for streaming "Legally" tonight at 9pm on Yahoo TV.

http://tv.yahoo.com/

Rypro 525
01-05-08, 01:36 AM
wait, how many episodes did they shoot before the strike? Also, i thought that 24 wasn't gonna air until the strike is resolved so it can go uninterupted.

Cardiff Giant11
01-05-08, 12:28 PM
I'm really looking forward to this. I was never a huge Terminator fan but rewatched all 3 movies a few months back and am now very into it. Can't wait to see this show.

DJariya
01-05-08, 02:39 PM
9 of 13 episodes were filmed before the strike. It will air next Sunday/Monday (January 13/14)

The season will wrap up Monday March 3rd with 2 episodes back to back.

DJariya
01-05-08, 03:24 PM
Just a reminder, the pilot is only up until 9pm tonight (24 hour window). There's no commercials and there is an introduction by Lena Headey at the beginning. Otherwise you will have to wait until January 13th. I watched a little bit of it and there is some small differences from the leaked version.

DJariya
01-05-08, 03:25 PM
wait, how many episodes did they shoot before the strike? Also, i thought that 24 wasn't gonna air until the strike is resolved so it can go uninterupted.

Uhhhh, I didn't mention anything about 24. 24 is on indefinite hiatus until all 24 episodes are ready to be aired. The Sarah Connor Chronicles is essentially replacing it.

Cardiff Giant11
01-05-08, 09:31 PM
I tried to watch it on the yahoo site but the video quality sucked ass and it was kind of choppy despite my insanely fast connection speed. I'll just wait and watch it in HD on my 37" tv instead of the awful quality/size on my 17" computer monitor.

CKMorpheus
01-05-08, 09:34 PM
Re-watched it on Yahoo, still really cool. Can't wait to watch episode 2.

Duh Vuh Duh
01-07-08, 12:38 PM
Re-watched it on Yahoo, still really cool. Can't wait to watch episode 2.

is there a link? or is it already down?

CKMorpheus
01-07-08, 12:55 PM
is there a link? or is it already down?

Already down. I think it was only up for 24 hours. Don't feel bad though, it's going to air soon and you won't have to sit on a computer chair for 45 minutes.


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