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Ranger
07-18-07, 03:30 PM
I think it'll be hard to top last Wed's dances. All of them minus the waltz were really fun to watch. I'm not ashamed to say that I have watched the whole episode four times already. Hope tonight is great too.

DRG
07-18-07, 03:56 PM
I hate to admit this, but I kinda wish they would release DVD sets of this show, even if it's just the routines. This is one of my favorite 'talent competition reality shows' because the talent is genuine and isn't loaded with 'second rate wannabes' like the others are, even Idol for the most part. Maybe I just feel this way because I'm generally ignorant of dance, but to me even the worst dancers in the top 20 are pretty amazing in their own style.

Ranger
07-18-07, 04:13 PM
DVD sets would be awesome but I think there would be issues about licensing the songs.

DRG
07-18-07, 05:32 PM
True, especially since they are using the actual recordings.

onebyone
07-18-07, 09:41 PM
Wow, after the last few shows, tonight's was a major comedown. I didn't even like Mia's routine. The only thing that stood out to me was how incredibly verbose Wade is. Well, that and how Dan's routines always, always suck. "Let's sit down the best dancer and let the worst do a solo! Brilliant!"

Wade was a good judge though, he seems to at least put some thought into it. I agree with Nigel though, I would rather have seen one of his routines... tonight more than ever.

Ranger
07-18-07, 09:46 PM
Sabra-Dominic - pretty good, they should be safe.
Jaimie-Hok - argh, why do they keep getting stuck with the bad dances? They might as well go now - Hok, definitely.
Sara-Pasha - not bad but a bit disappointed.
Lauren-Neil - I agree with what Nigel said - I didn't understand it either but they were great and deserve to be safe.
Anya-Danny - the best tonight, IMO. I'd be very upset if they both get cut this week but they SHOULD be safe.
Lacey-Kameron: I think the judge was right about Kameron being a bit too heavy but man, Lacey is sweet to look at.

OK. Hope I got all the names right!

magiccmom
07-18-07, 10:24 PM
Sabra - Dominic-lots of energy...I really enjoyed it..Dominic continues to impress me. Sabra is a firecracker.
Jamie-Hok-this is a bottom 3 dance for me. Her extensions are flawless and her leaps gorgeous. Hok, however; has hit a wall for me.
Sara-Pasha-LOVED it. Loved how Pasha moves, and I really enjoyed that dance.
Lauren-Neil- want them in the bottom 3 so Lauren can go home. Neil continues to outdance her. She couldnt keep up with him and thats why they were out of sync.
Anya-Danny- He is a work of art. She is good at what she does, but I think Mary's love affair with her is unfounded.
Lacy-Kameron- Another bottom 3 dance for me. I think Dan sat Lacy so he could call Kameron out. Kameron has been riding her coattails for too long, and now we got to see it. Wade was right about Lacy--there is something so prepared in her performance. It's so on all the time its almost fake. They needed to be humbled, and they deserve to dance for their lives. Lacy will be safe. Not so sure about kameron.

Big Dave
07-19-07, 09:57 AM
1. Sabra/Dominic - top-notch again, it will be sad to seem them no longer be a couple
2. Anya/Danny you can tell Danny was trying more this time, which I can appreaciate.
3. Sara/Pasha - a lot of great energy, the overall routine did not wow me, but given tonight was pretty bad overall, they should be safe
4. Lacey/Kameron I love me some Lacey, but Kameron is getting outclassed on every dance they do
5. Lauren/Neil the Mia routine, in terms of style, that I liked the best, but neither dancer seemed very strong, especially Lauren
6. Jaimie/Hok Jamie is good, but not spectacular and Hok has clearly reached his limitations

I would say Hok is gone for sure and the girls will come down to Lauren and Jaimie with Lauren probably gone.

Doug Heffernan
07-19-07, 10:52 AM
Lacey - There is just something really manic about her. I agree her enthusiasm is over the top - with her brother, it seemed genuine - she seems to be trying way too hard to be cute, funny, sexy, etc. Plus, as we found out, she has stanky hair!

Danny - He may be a great dancer, but I can't see him being "America's Favorite" dancer by a long shot - he just seems, for lack of a better term, to be a real "tool."

Kameron - I don't think Dan intentionally tried to "call him out" - but with that smirk that is always on his face, I wouldn't put it past him.

Lauren/Neil - never a big fan of Neil, and I used to like Lauren, but she has been steadily declining in my list of favorites.

Cat - at first, I didn't like her as the replacement for the original host - then, last season she really grew on me (I must admit, I am not a big fan of the british accent) to the point I really liked her. Now, she is on the downswing, she is just too excited.



At this point, and at the beginning of the season I never thought I'd say this - Sabra/Dominic are my favorite couple, and Sabra is my favorite dancer. She is genuine and fun to watch. Seems like a nice person with a natural talent.

Just my 2 cents.

zuffy
07-19-07, 11:04 AM
I remember in the top 20, I wanted Dominic gone but glad the judges kept him around. He have been improving every week.

I am expecting Lauren and Hok to be gone. I think the 2 of them have reached their limit.

Doug Heffernan
07-19-07, 11:33 AM
Who was the judge from season 1/2 who isn't here this season? Blonde, curly hair - I think his name was Brian?

magiccmom
07-19-07, 11:37 AM
Who was the judge from season 1/2 who isn't here this season? Blonde, curly hair - I think his name was Brian?
Brian Friedman...Word has it he committed to the UK project of "Grease, You are the One that I Want".

Doug Heffernan
07-19-07, 11:54 AM
Brian Friedman...Word has it he committed to the UK project of "Grease, You are the One that I Want".

Thanks, I liked him..

Ranger
07-19-07, 11:57 AM
Well, I voted for Anya/Danny, hopefully that will help them stay out of the bottom 3.

They really need to let Benji choregraph more dances.

I don't remember Dan 'calling' Kameron out.

magiccmom
07-19-07, 12:02 PM
Well, I voted for Anya/Danny, hopefully that will help them stay out of the bottom 3.

They really need to let Benji choregraph more dances.

I don't remember Dan 'calling' Kameron out.
No, he didnt specifically call him out, but when he sat Lacey down and had Kameron do his solo, to me that was a way of seeing what he could handle without Lacey. And he didnt handle it well.

Goldberg74
07-19-07, 12:16 PM
I wonder what's up with DialIdol's tally of SYTYCD. The past two weeks' predictions have been really extreme (95% of the calls for one couple). Weird.

Shilex
07-19-07, 07:18 PM
Yeah, Benji really did a great job choreographing Sara and Pasha last week. They definitely need to let him do more. Maybe replace Dan (never liked his style of boy band hip-hop).

Lauren is really the only girl I can see getting eliminated at this point. Maybe Jamie since she has kinda gotten lost in the shuffle sometimes (but she is still a great dancer). I actually wouldn't mind seeing Anya go because her personality doesn't stand out like the other girls, but I don't think they'll be in the bottom 3 this week.

I like Hok but it does seem like his time to go. He is the weakest guy right now.

Ranger
07-19-07, 07:42 PM
No, he didnt specifically call him out, but when he sat Lacey down and had Kameron do his solo, to me that was a way of seeing what he could handle without Lacey. And he didnt handle it well.
Oh, I misunderstood - Dan the choregrapher, not the dancer.

Ranger
07-19-07, 10:05 PM
Ugh. I can't believe Lacey/Kameron weren't in the bottom 3 and that Lauren/Neil and Anya/Danny were!

Really didn't want Jaimie to advance but at least Hok is done and don't think will be happy with her with Danny.

Sad about Anya but the judges only could save her so many times.

magiccmom
07-19-07, 10:07 PM
Ugh. I can't believe Lacey/Kameron weren't in the bottom 3 and that Lauren/Neil and Anya/Danny were!

Really didn't want Jaimie to advance but at least Hok is done and don't think will be happy with her with Danny.

Sad about Anya but the judges only could save her so many times.
She might not be with Danny next week. They pick out of hats, and change every week.

Big Dave
07-19-07, 10:16 PM
Bit surprised to see Anya/Danny in the bottom 3, but I can't imagine either had a ton of fans. I think Lauren had her best solo, while Anya was the same with just more energy.

DRG
07-19-07, 10:58 PM
I think Kameron is in trouble next week once he has to fend for votes for himself. I think Lacey was carrying the voting in that duo.

onebyone
07-19-07, 11:27 PM
There was no way Lacey/Kameron were going to be in the bottom. They had too much good will and hype built up for even a sorry Dan routine to tank them just yet. Thank goodness. He killed a couple I liked this time just last year.

The bottom 3 couples were just what I would've guessed. Everyone kept telling me Anya & Danny are good, but I just never got it. They never did a thing for me. I caught myself staring at the wall during his solo tonight actually.

I thought Anya was the right one to go. (Of course I have often thought she should've gone.) She and Danny get their mail in the bottom three, one of them had to go and I think she and her stripper routines were the weakest link. Thank goodness for Wade, as Mary's "I am not letting them go!" at the start had me worried they would both stay no matter how lame her solo was going to inevitably be.

I liked Hok and will miss him, but he really didn't grow as much as I expected so it's fair he went. I really loved his solo though. Sure it was all tricks, but you have a few second so...hit me with your best shot. It was a good exit.

Yeah, Benji really did a great job choreographing Sara and Pasha last week. They definitely need to let him do more. Maybe replace Dan (never liked his style of boy band hip-hop).


Big hell yes to that.

mazzystar
07-20-07, 12:59 AM
Ugh. I can't believe Lacey/Kameron weren't in the bottom 3 and that Lauren/Neil and Anya/Danny were!

Really didn't want Jaimie to advance but at least Hok is done and don't think will be happy with her with Danny.

Sad about Anya but the judges only could save her so many times.

I feel ya. I was not impressed at all with lacey/kams dance. I thought is was the worst hip hop routine ive seen to date on sytycd. I was shocked that they were not in the bottom 3. Lacey is great but kam just does not stand out for me at all. I really liked sara and pashas routine tho, sara continues to suprise me week after week.

cerulean
07-20-07, 02:05 AM
I hate to admit this, but I kinda wish they would release DVD sets of this show, even if it's just the routines. This is one of my favorite 'talent competition reality shows' because the talent is genuine and isn't loaded with 'second rate wannabes' like the others are, even Idol for the most part. Maybe I just feel this way because I'm generally ignorant of dance, but to me even the worst dancers in the top 20 are pretty amazing in their own style.
Late last season I realized I felt the same, so I started recording the shows and editing them down to just the choreography video and performances. I really like watching the dances!

The last few weeks I've been watching Kameron in the group routines, and he's surprisingly weak compared to the rest. His timing is occasionally a little off, and his line is often mediocre. He really lucked out getting a great partner in Lacey and a stunning first routine that made them an early fan favorite. I think if he had been in the bottom 3, his flaws would've again been really apparent in the solo, and he would've gone instead of Hok.

Jadzia
07-20-07, 02:35 AM
Hok's ridiculous braids had to go. That one near his face was braided in the wrong direction and looked like it was stapled to his head. I couldn't look at him without wanting to cut those stupid things off.

I am glad Anya and her bad stripper solo routines are gone. All she did was shake her ta-tas and it looked like she needed a pole.

Goldberg74
07-20-07, 08:15 AM
I didn't think they'd have the balls to cut Hok from the tour.

But they did.

Congrats to Mia [Calling You -- w/ Travis and Heidi] and Wade [Ramalama (Bang Bang) -- Season 2 Dancers] on their Emmy noms [Outstanding Choreography].

magiccmom
07-20-07, 10:10 AM
I'm excited to see different partners. I think Neil and Lacey will be really fun. And Pasha and Lacey. Is there a bottom 3 anymore or do the votes just cast the lowest ones out? I forget!

Ranger
07-20-07, 10:13 AM
I looked at the recording again early this morning and yeah, I can see that Anya's solo wasn't great. Jaimie and Lauren had better solos and deserved to stay.

And now that I know the partners are picked at random and that people now can call in for each individual, I am less upset and really hope Kameron will be cut next week.

Ranger
07-20-07, 10:15 AM
I think they have a bottom 4 now - individually.

Everyone does 2 numbers+solo and another solo if in bottom 4.

When will they announce the partners?

magiccmom
07-20-07, 11:31 AM
I'm trying to remember how this works. The couples dance 2 dances and their solos. Then America votes. Then on Thursday they lose a guy and a girl. Right? They might dance their solos again on Thursday, but the vote is already in. Does anyone remember differently?

Ranger
07-20-07, 02:23 PM
Pretty interesting stuff on Anya and Pasha. I'll definitely be rootng for him.
http://www.tvguide.com/news/dance-hok-anya/070720-05

Friday, July 20, 2007
So You Think You Can Dance Backstage Report: Hok and Anya Are Down but Not Out
by Deborah Starr Seibel
It's Thursday night on Fox's So You Think You Can Dance as the stage manager tries to quiet the studio audience before the ax falls twice. Two of the 12 remaining hoofers have danced their last prime-time dance. "OK, settle down, everyone," she says. "Something bad is about to happen."

What happens is that Hok and Anya are sent home. And it is doubly painful for them and their fans because — as we were reminded numerous times between Wednesday's performance show and the imminent results — only the top 10 will be invited to perform in more than 50 cities on the series' national tour.

Or so the producers would have you think. After the show, a truer picture emerges. "The two who went out today will be the alternates on the tour," says judge Mary Murphy. "We always have to have two or three alternates go along, so I don't think the fans are going to be disappointed in that department. Hok will be out there by popular demand. And I think Anya will be there, too, if they'll both sign up to do it. And I'm sure they will."

Murphy, a onetime competitive ballroom dancer herself, was not a happy camper about losing Anya, whom she considers a first-rate ballroom specialist. But she was out-voted by executive producer Nigel Lythgoe and guest judge Wade Robson. "Where are those terrible men?" asks Murphy, looking around backstage. Robson is busy explaining himself. "Anya is an amazing performer, but she's never impressed me as a soloist," he says. "Even tonight, there was no real substance. And in this competition, with the amount of versatility that you have to have to dance every style, I just don't think she's up to par."

"I'm sure Anya is really disappointed," says Murphy. "And I'm sure Pasha (Anya's longtime dance partner who made the top 10) is devastated. Every experience I've ever had with them in the ballroom world has been nothing but pleasant. And in our competitive world, which can be very tense, the competitors can be very arrogant. I never found either one of them to be like that. They're just the sweetest."

What the audience doesn't know is that Pasha, who emigrated from Russia six years ago with Anya, never wanted to try out for the show. "But Anya really wanted to do it," says Pasha. "When she asked if I wanted to participate, I said, ‘No, let me pass this time.' But I was willing to help her go through the audition process."

The reason for his initial reluctance? Pasha was seriously ill during the six months leading up to the Dance auditions in March. It all started one day last November, when Pasha felt so sick that Anya brought him to the emergency room. Only 26 years old at the time, doctors discovered a life-threatening blood clot in his neck. Since they couldn't remove it surgically, they gave him powerful drugs to help his body dissolve the clot on its own. "But I was really weak for a long time," he says. "My immune system was down and I was getting sick constantly. It was scary. And for a couple of months, I didn't dance at all."

But when one of the show's producers saw Pasha audition with Anya, he asked why the Siberian-born dancer wasn't trying out. "He said, ‘You must do it,'" says Pasha. "So I decided to try it and my doctor cleared me. I was not in the best shape. But being sick made me realize something: It just reconfirmed that I really wanted to dance."

"I told him, ‘I know you didn't even want to try out,'" says Murphy. "And he said, ‘Mary, this is the best thing that's ever happened to me in my life.' He doesn't talk about it, but you know he almost died last year. So for him to come back from that and have this experience I think is absolutely wonderful."

Even with Anya getting voted out? "I'm sure she's happy for him," says Murphy. "His number-one cheerleader is going to be Anya."

Shilex
07-20-07, 05:22 PM
Wow, didn't know that. And he doesn't play the "I was almost dying last year" card for sympathy votes (which is something a lot of contestants would do) :thumbsup: I like Pasha and hopefully he does well, but I'm afraid his somewhat lack of personality (something the Russian contestants seem to suffer from) will prevent him from getting into the top three.

I don't know if I have a clear favorite right now. I'm too used to the teams. I really like Sabra and Sara. I like Lacey too but think she gets overrated a bit much. What seems to be apparent, though, is that this is gonna be a girl's year to win.

magiccmom
07-20-07, 05:25 PM
Wow, didn't know that. And he doesn't play the "I was almost dying last year" card for sympathy votes (which is something a lot of contestants would do) :thumbsup: I like Pasha and hopefully he does well, but I'm afraid his somewhat lack of personality (something the Russian contestants seem to suffer from) will prevent him from getting into the top three.

I don't know if I have a clear favorite right now. I'm too used to the teams. I really like Sabra and Sara. I like Lacey too but think she gets overrated a bit much. What seems to be apparent, though, is that this is gonna be a girl's year to win.
WoW! I think Pasha has a ton of personality and is really funny and sweet!

Ranger
07-20-07, 05:40 PM
Pasha seems a bit more 'normal' like Danny who just seems to be a bit shy as opposed to some of the other dancers - both male and female - who are extremely flirty. I think they're the top two male dancers but I hope Pasha wins the whole thing.

Edit: But yeah, Sabra and Sara are pretty good too.

Buzz Lightyear
07-20-07, 06:27 PM
Sad that Anya had to go. Her solo was not that great but she had the best performance with Danny on the live show by far. She shouldn't have been dancing for her life.

fujishig
07-20-07, 07:18 PM
So what's the criteria for being on this show? It always seems to me like the best dancers on the show are already known in the dance world, or at least have met in passing. There's no "you-need-to-be-an-amateur" think like American Idol, I take it?

Original Desmond
07-22-07, 12:05 AM
i have no idea who will win

mytzplyx
07-23-07, 02:56 AM
So what's the criteria for being on this show? It always seems to me like the best dancers on the show are already known in the dance world, or at least have met in passing. There's no "you-need-to-be-an-amateur" think like American Idol, I take it?

"The best dancers in the world" don't need the paltry (compared to AI) reward of $250k, a living place for a year, and a job. And if they do find it attractive, it might not be as attractive as some of the stuff they have in the works, so they might not want to commit the time.


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