Veronica Mars -- "Debasement Tapes" -- 05/08/07
05-08-07, 11:47 AM
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This is why I always tell you people that it ain't over till it's over: According to my CW moles, bless their hairy little hearts, the odds of Veronica Mars being renewed just went from "so-so" to "pretty good." Suddenly, per my spy, "There's a glimmer of hope." Here's why:
• Since Gilmore Girls is packing it in, the network suddenly has an extra hour of prime real estate available. What are they gonna do, renew 7th Heaven again? (That was a joke, CW. Don't get any ideas.)
• CW prez Dawn Ostroff is said to have responded very favorably to the trailer that series creator Rob Thomas shot for a potential reworking of the show with VM as an FBI agent (think Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs, only with way better hair and funnier dialogue). What's more, sources whisper to me that on the strength of that presentation, Thomas and Co. have been asked for more deets of the proposed revamp.
• Big changes are afoot — starting at the very top. "They've talked about a title change," says my spy. (Hey, if the quality remains the same, they can call it Veronica Mars Presents: The Search for the Next Pussycat Doll for all I — and I suspect all of us V fans — care.) Furthermore, there would likely be a major cast shake-up, with Bell the only guaranteed carryover.
• Since Gilmore Girls is packing it in, the network suddenly has an extra hour of prime real estate available. What are they gonna do, renew 7th Heaven again? (That was a joke, CW. Don't get any ideas.)
• CW prez Dawn Ostroff is said to have responded very favorably to the trailer that series creator Rob Thomas shot for a potential reworking of the show with VM as an FBI agent (think Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs, only with way better hair and funnier dialogue). What's more, sources whisper to me that on the strength of that presentation, Thomas and Co. have been asked for more deets of the proposed revamp.
• Big changes are afoot — starting at the very top. "They've talked about a title change," says my spy. (Hey, if the quality remains the same, they can call it Veronica Mars Presents: The Search for the Next Pussycat Doll for all I — and I suspect all of us V fans — care.) Furthermore, there would likely be a major cast shake-up, with Bell the only guaranteed carryover.
05-08-07, 12:27 PM
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I think the FBI show idea sounds great, and could be a fresh look at the character, as I'm not really sure where they could go from here if they did more college years.
But please bring Keith Mars back, please. The rest I can take and leave, but you've got to have Keith.
But please bring Keith Mars back, please. The rest I can take and leave, but you've got to have Keith.
05-08-07, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dvd182
I think the FBI show idea sounds great, and could be a fresh look at the character, as I'm not really sure where they could go from here if they did more college years.
But please bring Keith Mars back, please. The rest I can take and leave, but you've got to have Keith.
But please bring Keith Mars back, please. The rest I can take and leave, but you've got to have Keith.
Agreed. The dynamic between Veronica and Keith makes the show. I like the interactions between her and Wallace as well, but her and her dad are great.
05-08-07, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Elpresidentepez
Shes cute and spunky, she plays off Veronica better than Wallace, and Tina majorino is a good actress.
05-08-07, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Goose
Keith is the only must-have besides My Veronica as I see it. All of the others are very expendable.
Keith needs to be a part of the "new" show and it wouldn't be a stretch to have him as an instructor or something at the Academy.
I would only want one other person back, that would be Mac, but it does seem like more of a stretch to see her in the FBI-even as the computer whiz.
05-08-07, 04:49 PM
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I was under the impression the show would be Veronica as a full fledged agent. I could be wrong though.
05-08-07, 05:04 PM
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If they're going to keep Keith, I think they would have to be making Veronica a rookie field agent in LA or something like that. If they do that, I'd like to see occasional guest shots from any cast members who want to do that sort of thing. Mac, Weevil, and Vinnie are the only characters I really care about.
If they're moving Veronica to the east coast, I don't see how they could keep Keith in more than a recurring role. I'd hope they might be able to work in Christopher Gorham in a role as a nod to Jake 2.0, but that's probably way too pie in the sky.
If they're moving Veronica to the east coast, I don't see how they could keep Keith in more than a recurring role. I'd hope they might be able to work in Christopher Gorham in a role as a nod to Jake 2.0, but that's probably way too pie in the sky.
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05-08-07, 05:12 PM
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I like the FBI Idea. Is it possible to have Logan guest star, get kidnapped and fed his own brain?
05-08-07, 05:27 PM
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I'll take the show in any way we can get it.
I'd even take the version where Veronica becomes a used car salesman or how about the one where she becomes a local plumber. I'd seriously would still watch it.
I'd even take the version where Veronica becomes a used car salesman or how about the one where she becomes a local plumber. I'd seriously would still watch it.
05-08-07, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
if they really want to make the show a hit they should have Veronica work a season long undercover sting at a strip club.
05-08-07, 10:33 PM
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Paul Rudd was very funny in this episode. Kind of nice to get a great guest star. I also think Dick was on top of his game for this one.
It was nice seeing my friend's friend "Jeff Ratner" on VM again!!
This was one of my more enjoyable episodes this season.
It was nice seeing my friend's friend "Jeff Ratner" on VM again!!
This was one of my more enjoyable episodes this season.
05-08-07, 10:45 PM
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Decent episode.
Bring back the long mystery archs! That's what made VM great. These stand-alone episodes that are catering to potential new fans don't cut it.
Bring back the long mystery archs! That's what made VM great. These stand-alone episodes that are catering to potential new fans don't cut it.
05-09-07, 06:38 AM
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I've been with the show from day 1 and really hope it comes back in some form next year (I even wrote a letter to the CW pleading with them to make the right decision), BUT the "mystery" portion of this ep was really weak. It took VM 3/4 of the hour before she
Wouldn't that have been done, oh I don't know, THE FIRST TIME SHE MET WITH HER CLIENT?
And while I'm on a rant here, doesn't it seem a bit unusual that Acting Sheriff Mars would dismiss one of his deputies for being lax with regards to enforcing underage drinking laws and then follow that up by
Isn't the latter offense a bit more egregious than the former? Certainly is in my book.
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And while I'm on a rant here, doesn't it seem a bit unusual that Acting Sheriff Mars would dismiss one of his deputies for being lax with regards to enforcing underage drinking laws and then follow that up by
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Isn't the latter offense a bit more egregious than the former? Certainly is in my book.
05-09-07, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dolphinboy
Keith needs to be a part of the "new" show and it wouldn't be a stretch to have him as an instructor or something at the Academy.