joshd2012

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705742p1.html

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/706/706158p1.html

Oh Noes!

Liver&Onions

But weren't you also saying that Nintendo reports units sold while Sony reports units shipped?

gimmepilotwings

Josh, do you REALLY think that the PSP is "beating" the DS? Even if the claim that the PSP has 1 more million units out there is trye, they haven't sold as many games or have anywhere near the buzz that the DS has. Let alone the DS Lite will be released very shortly.

penguin42

the ds is a much better gaming device, it does not surprise me it has outsold the psp.

joshd2012

That question was brought up, and I quickly pointed that once a company ships a product to a retailer, it is sold. That, and it is impossible to track ever unit as to when it leaves the store - that estimations on trends must be made.

Plus, one million units would be a sizable amount sitting on the shelves - enough to affect production rates (which Sony has reported of none). So 1 million sitting on the shelf is highly unlikely.

Michael Corvin

Worth repeating.

jeffdsmith

Josh, you know the difference between sold vs shipped. Are you just looking to piss people off or do you forget your own words?

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=464433

Per your link:
* Nintendo Game Boy Advance: 75.3 million units sold
* Nintendo DS: 17.8 million units sold
* Sony PSP: 17.03 million units shipped

Lord what a crap thread.

joshd2012

Oh, come on guys. Don't get all pissy because you can't say how Sony is getting their ass kicked by Nintendo.

Liver&Onions

lol - http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.ph...79&postcount=7

You can't argue with that post Josh...

joshd2012

Sold vs Shipped means nothing. Once the unit is out of Sony's hands, they have money for it. Same with Nintendo.

And are you seriously going to use Wikipedia over the official source? Yes, it is a nice resource when the official is not available, but are you calling your boy a liar?

The smell of despiration is not becoming on you.

Liver&Onions

Seems you were in the thread referenced...

joshd2012

Oh.. you mean before the official numbers were released TODAY?

Jeez.. come on man!

Liver&Onions

Unless I see those numbers in a SEC form on some business sites, they are FAR from official. From both companies.

So how can you in one thread use a reference and treat it as your basis of knowledge, but when someone else tries to use the same link that you provided it becomes useless knowledge?

jeffdsmith

READ THE THREAD I LINKED.

Why do I have to repeat everything to you 10 times? HERE: http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=464433

Sure, Reggie is a liar. (He's not my "boy" though.)

I'm not the one that posted a thread based on a media briefing expo immediately after like a deserate doomsday person am I?

Liver&Onions

Jeff - That's a personal attack. Please refrain from those things, one and only warning. I've edited your post.

PixyJunket

For the same reason that using a GBA to play a game on Cube with extra information is a gimmick but using the PSP as a rear view mirror for a PS3 game is sexy and for the same reason that the motion controller revealed last year is stupid but the motion sensor controller revealed last night is great news.

jeffdsmith

double post

jeffdsmith

Sorry, you are right. I just get tired of the constant misinformation and having to repeat clear facts to him that he continues to fail to directly address like they "don't exist". I'l leave this thread alone, it was a waste of time anyway.

UncleGramps

You're right, Josh. Sony is the Best Company Ever and Nintendo sucks. You win. You can stop posting sales figures now and go play some video games.

maxfisher

Crap. This thread ruined my day. I've only had my DS for about a month and only really had a chance to play 3 of the 9 games I bought for it. Guess the rest of them won't be as fun now.

joshd2012

When the official source releases such information only twice a year, it quickly becomes irrelevant to discussion. To quote "official" Nintendo sales data from October is pointless if other unofficial organizations are tracking it montly. For that month, it is best to use the official source.

But after that month, is someone supposed to ignore progress and continue to use that official number? Or should they recognize that units continue to be sold, and that the month old data is no incorrect?

Obviously, units continue to get sold, and in absense of official data, it is justified to use 3rd party data. Of course, once the official data is releaved again, that 3rd party data is superceeded by the official data.

Look, I didn't buy when everyone said that when Nintendo came out and said the Wii was 3x the power of GC it wasn't official. Now we see that it was official. So yes, Nintendo said it, it is official.

joshd2012

I don't own a PSP (nor do I plan on purchasing another one) and the Wii controller would have been a good idea... if it was shaped like the WaveBird.

njchris

The first post just reeks of flame bait... especially with the rolling smiley at the bottom - and the title "Truth Revealed".

Obviously, you must not agree with your own statement.

darkside

What a great thread.

HN

wait, regardless of the definition of shipped vs. sold, shouldn't the same numbers be used to avoid confusion -- # shipped vs. # shipped, and/or # sold vs. # sold?