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Old 03-16-06, 03:40 AM
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"Drawing Restraint 9". Oh...My...Gawd...

This movie will either be a surrealistic masterpiece that touches the soul...or a pretentious turd not worth a second thought. At this point I can't tell which way it will fall. Anyway, I look forward to anything Bjork is involved in and I'm prepared for "weird" when she's near but based on this trailer.... I don't know what to think.

Trailer Here.

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are you familiar with the director's previous work? specifically, the cremaster cycle?


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Based on the poster and the blurb at the link, I vote for pretentious turd.
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ooookay, that trailer weirded me out. I'm gonna vote for pretenious/no-point.
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Wow.
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His latest work, the two hour and fifteen minute magnum opus Drawing Restraint 9, was shot in Nagasaki Bay on board the Japanese whaling ship Nisshin Maru.

Its core idea is the relationship between self-imposed resistance and creativity, a theme it symbolically tracks through the construction and transformation of a vast sculpture of liquid vaseline, called "The Field", which is molded, poured, bisected and reformed on the deck of the ship over the course of the film.

Barriers hold form in place, and when they are removed, the film tracks the descent of form into states of sensual surrender and formal atrophy; this shift in the physical state of the sculpture is symbolically mirrored through the narrative of The Guests, two occidental visitors to the ship played in the film by Matthew Barney and Björk, who we first see taken on board, groomed, bathed and dressed in mammal fur costumes based upon traditional Shinto marriage costumes.

They take part in a tea ceremony in which, in the film's only moment of spoken dialogue, they are informed about the history of the vessel, and then, as an increasingly powerful lightning storm breaks out overhead, the tatami mat room they occupy floods with liquid vaseline, a fluid which we sense has emanated from The Field sculpture itself.

In a harrowing liebestod which is the climax and centerpiece of the film, the Guests, locked in an embrace and breathing through blowhole-like orifices on the back of their necks, take out flensing knives and cut away each other's feet and thighs. The remains of their lower body are revealed to contain traces of whale tails at an early stage of development, suggesting rebirth, physical transformation, and the possibility of new forms.

Having reached a state of maximum disintegration, the sculpture of The Field
is then reorganized and the ship emerges from the storm, sailing through a field of icebergs towards the open southern ocean. In the last shot, two whales can be seen swimming behind the ship, headed for Antarctica.
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Riiiiiight!
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It makes more sense if you've seen Drawing Restraint 1-8.
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Yeah, I just saw the trailer and I too think it looks like a pretenious p.o.s. But if someone likes it good for them. I also read that the Cremaster Cycle was only released on DVD in limited edition and that they were $50,000 for the set. Also I read that the director (Matthew Barney (sp?) ) is dating Bjork. I think it is Matthew Barney's work is more like pure 'Art' than an actually movie. You would have to pay e $50k to sit through this, but different strokes for different folks. BTW, from the scenes I saw it does look beautifully shot just completely and utterly pointless.
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It would help you if you were aware that this is art and not a dramatic film, and were capable of forming an opinion based upon that fact. (And did not think everything surrealist or absurdist was a "pretentious turd lolomg").
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Originally Posted by PotVsKtl
It would help you if you were aware that this is art and not a dramatic film
Oh, I see. Art. Right.
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So this is a remake of the J. Lo movie?
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Actually I already hate him, just based on the fact that www.cremaster.net makes me resize my browser.
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Cremaster Post Cycle #3

http://www.cremaster.net/cc_trailer/cc_trailer.mov

Cremaster Cycle trailer.

:shrugs:

And now a poem to celebrate.

<hr>

I am the dust
In your bowels
Creating
Another.

* cues 50 minute video of worms eating corn on a silk bed *
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Originally Posted by The Bus
And now a poem to celebrate.

<hr>

I am the dust
In your bowels
Creating
Another.

* cues 50 minute video of worms eating corn on a silk bed *
Brilliant. Somebody give this man a substantial art grant immediately.

-JP
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I think this film looks absolutely beautiful and taken as a piece of art could be quite impressive. Sitting through 2 hours would most likely try my patience though.

From http://www.cremasterfanatic.com/FAQs.html:
Where can I buy the Cremaster films on video?

The Cremaster films are not available on video -- at least not unless you’re a wealthy art collector. Each film has been released in an edition of ten -- the discs are housed in lavish sculptural packaging and individually signed and numbered by Barney (see image below). Single discs have sold at auction for over $385,000.
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Matthew Barney=pretension. And he's a real dick to boot.
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My feeling is that it cannot be appreciated by the general public it ceases to be art; it becomes masturbatory. And I'm not talking about appreciated meaning understood, I mean viewed and discussed.
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Looks like a Kim Ki-Duk flick with the addition of vomit.

I'll watch it, seems like one of those hypnotic flicks I could flip on at 2 am and have a big WTF hangover the next morning.
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Originally Posted by RichC2
Looks like a Kim Ki-Duk flick with the addition of vomit.
Wow, are we thinking of the same Kim Ki-Duk?
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400k for a DVD... fuck that !
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But, but...it's art!
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I have actually seen a few of the Cremaster films. They aren't exactly my cup of tea but I can appreciate things Barney is exploring. He creates worlds and characters that make up these worlds pretty well I think from what I saw in the Cremaster films. His intense fascination with vaseline though is pretty well explored in most of what he does and I don't know what to say about it. I don't want to call what he does pretension so I will stay away from that judgment but if I have the chance to watch Drawing Restraint I will give it a try.
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Originally Posted by NatrlBornThrllr
Wow, are we thinking of the same Kim Ki-Duk?

The mood is definitely there. And yes, I think we are =) Alas, 3-Iron was one of my favorite movies last year.
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Weird or not, Bjork is a genius.



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