LorenzoL

"My Mother, the Fiend" Episode #209.

Cast: Kristen Bell, Percy Daggs III, Teddy Dunn, Jason Dohring, Francis Capra, Enrico Colantoni, Sydney Tamiia Poitier, Tessa Thompson, Alyson Hannigan, Charisma Carpenter, Kyle Gallner, Ryan Hansen , Alona Tal, Duane Daniels, Tina Majorina , Lisa Thornhill, Terrylene, James Molina, Kari Coleman, John Bennett Perry.
Director(s): Nick Marck.
Producer(s): Joel Silver, Rob Thomas.
Writer(s): Phil Klemmer, Dayna Lynne North.

Original Airdate: November 30, 2005.

LorenzoL

Don't forget that you can watch the alternate ending of tonight's episode at aol.com/veronicamars

garmonbozia

Alert for those in the Philadelphia area.....
check your listings!

according to tvguide.com, Veronica Mars is not on next week on November 30th on UPN 11. It is being pre-empted for basketball.

The episode is instead being aired on Sat 12/3 at 6pm and Sun 12/4 at 1 am.

DGibFen

And for Buffy fans,

Gizmo

Apparently...

Patman

Now that was a nice episode, not only a self-contained mystery case, but it springboarded the macro-mystery and also brought in the impact of Meg's condition.

Loved the scene between Charisma and Alyson, it looked like they were having fun with it as well. I was surprised at how much Trina was in this episode.

Looks like Mac is into the Beave. (Wait, that didn't come out right...)

How do Weevil and Logan beat the crap out of each other and not lose any teeth?

Gizmo

Anyone watch the alternate ending on AOL? If so, PLEASE Spoil it (no AOL here!)

deadlax

Gizmo

Holy Crap!

Adam Tyner

Isn't only the last minute of the "alternate ending" any different? Why they had to play a quarter of the episode is beyond me. I'm curious to hear how everyone voted -- the alternate version is certainly more shocking, but I have to admit to preferring the ending that aired.

Gizmo

Wow....what an episode!

Jlbkwrm

Loved the episode. Well balanced, couple of good twists, all kinds of storyline movement.

I did think Alyson Hannigan did feel off for a lot of her scenes--some could be brushed off as Trina's dramatic streak, but her eagerness to take the tape to the tabloids seemed forced. She did, however, do an excellent job realizing she was facing her birth mother.

The Logan/Weevil team-up and Mac/Beaver pairing were both well-handled. This hopefully means we'll be seeing a lot more of Mac in the future.

I totally don't get why they did an alternate ending--I initially figured somebody was going to die, and they'd film an ending with a different character dying, but then the episode aired and they didn't kill anybody, and Meg's pregnancy appears in both endings. So they just filmed it for fun?

I wind up marginally preferring the original ending, because the very ending of the alternate ending was just too much.

Also, concerning both the 'alternate ending' and the preview for the next episode:

Balah

Charisma and Alyson were firing that dialogue at each other in their scene together. Better than I could have even hoped for. I dug this episode, just like I seem to every week.

I disagree with Jlbkwrm that Trina leaping to alert the tabloids was forced. That scene seemed to fit perfectly with her characterization as a D-list star that is desperately seeking any sort of media attention. But hey, we all take different things from every show, and it is certainly possible that my starry-eyed viewing of every episode leaves me a bit biased. I must say the line about "Pat" had me chuckling quite a bit. I guess "The Insider" owed Trina a favor .

I too liked the original ending better--it just seemed more "Veronica" than the one on AOL.

And if any of you live in Austin, TX and don't go to the Season One marathon at the Drafthouse, well, I'm not sure I can ever forgive you. I first saw the link on AICN and about fell over at the thought of watching a VM marathon on the big screen alongside Rob Thomas, Veronica, and Daddy Mars.

Jimmy James

I liked that they gave Jason such a good line to cap it off, too.

I took that away from the scene, too. In fact, I think AH played her a bit too restrained if anything. Trina would jump at that chance.

Jlbkwrm

Sorry--when I said the eagerness seemed forced, I was referring to AH's portrayal, not the actual writing. Trina-the-character being eager makes sense, but I don't think AH pulled off eager Trina. The delivery itself felt forced, and a lot like watching a bad actor trying to play 'excited'. Usually I write that off as Trina being a mediocre actress who is constantly trying to show off her acting skills, but in a scene where Trina is supposed to genuinely be into it, there didn't seem to be a lot of real anticipation on Trina's part.

Jimmy James

I gotcha. I think I have to agree. In fairness to AH, I wonder if a lot of the problem comes from not being in this character's head enough to really get comfortable. For scenes with CC, she can just riff on that old dynamic and get away with it. She hasn't played anybody quite like Trina before, though.

It could also just be that she has limitations as an actress and she bumped up against them here. There is no crime in that.

Chew

That Charisma and Alyson scene was awesome! Felt a little like early Buffy.

Sir_Fireboard

Pretty good episode. I was so pissed off at Logan for doing that to Weevil, even though I love Logan (and after what Weevil did to him last week). I can't wait to see what happens with them working together, I've always loved their interactions.

Pretty much the first thing that came to mind when Meg was being so bitchy to Veronica was the whole pregnancy thing, so it kinda sucks that they went there, but the writers seem to have handled other cliches well, so I'll give them a chance and see where they go with this.

I was a little slow on the uptake with Trina being adopted, but it's probably because I watched the episode at 10am without having slept at all, so I think I'm entitled to some confusion. Certainly didn't see that coming.

LorenzoL

That was a very good episode.

I liked the scene with Trina and Kendall. I also liked the "confrontation" with Veronica and Celeste. Brings back such fond memories of S1.

I think Mac and Beaver will make a cute couple.

I can't watch the alternate ending since I'm not in the US which it sucks so thank you to deadlax for the description of the alternate scenes.

Can't wait for next week episode since there's no new episode until the new year afterward.

movieking

Last night I have a mini VM marathon, catching up on the last three episodes. I was on vacation for a couple of weeks, and this was by far the show that I missed the most.

I agree the ending shown on TV is better than the online one. The online one would either take the series in a total different direction, or it would be set aside too easily thus cheapening it.

I miss Wallace, but not his girlfriend.

The scenes from last week (I think) with Guttenberg and his son were very odd.

I am glad they didn't redeem the Sheriff.

MrX

I agree it was a good episode. The scene with AH and CC was great. I was hoping they'd make a reference to Buffy though.

Count me in as liking the ending that aired more.

Chew

Agreed. Couldn't they of just started the new ending from the walk down the hospital hallway and save us all about 6-7 minutes?

movieking

Did anyone listen to the online interview at UPN with RM? He clearly states that the alternate ending was never considered, and it was just shot to have an alternate ending to put up on AOL, since that is what Joel Silver wanted. The only real alternate ending they were playing with was whether or not Meg would wake up.

The first three minutes of the next episode is there, and the most notable thing we learn is:



My thoughts on what are going to happen next:



That's my guess anyway!

Rypro 525

i was wondering, a show like this doesn't seem up Joel Silver's alley. How did get involved?